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List Mgmt. 2013 draft and trading

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captainMyCaptain said:
But in the article that mentioned us re-signing sumner it decided to focus on the players that remained unsigned - typical

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...on-the-defensive/story-fn865146-1226631870537

But at least we know we have signed the ones that matter
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That is quite possibly one of the funniest articles I've read. Thanks for the link.

THE GWS Giants are yet to re-sign up to 14 of the best young players in Australia.

...they have a huge challenge to hold on to their entire list of uncontracted players.

Headlined by No.7 draft pick Nick Haynes and former All-Australian under-18s emerging stars Anthony Miles, Josh Bruce and Sam Darley, rival clubs are understood to be interested in luring unsigned GWS players to their club later this year.
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The reason they haven't been contracted past this year yet is because they're not in our best 22. We've got 26 players signed up to 2015, and another seven to 2014. We've prioritised re-signing our best players and as much as I like Bruce and Miles, they don't seem to be able to crack a spot in our team at the moment.

Giants list manager Stephen Silvagni and Graeme 'Gubby' Allan last night refused to comment on the alarming number of players yet to re-sign...
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Alarming? It's approximately 1/3rd of our list, i.e. the same fraction of any list that comes off contract in a given year.

"They are certainly going to have their hands full trying to hold on to them all.
"There are players there who aren't getting a game at the moment.
"Some of them would be able to walk on to other AFL lists and get a game. How many times can you get 40 possessions in the NEAFL and not play in the AFL?"
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a) I'm pretty sure we have no expectations to hold on to them all. After all we still need to delist players to take three picks minimum in this year's draft (and will probably take more).
b) How many times can you get 40 possessions in the NEAFL and not play in the AFL? Shitloads. As a Lions supporter who pays attention to their reserves in the NEAFL for the last few years (results, not actual games), the NEAFL is not up to scratch. The Lions have players kicking bags of 8 or more goals and they're not coming into the team. Plenty of players can rack up 40 possessions in these games if that's their role because they've got higher fitness than their opponents.

Just so very very very much wrong with that article, it's quite frankly hilarious!
 
dlanod said:
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That is quite possibly one of the funniest articles I've read. Thanks for the link.



The reason they haven't been contracted past this year yet is because they're not in our best 22. We've got 26 players signed up to 2015, and another seven to 2014. We've prioritised re-signing our best players and as much as I like Bruce and Miles, they don't seem to be able to crack a spot in our team at the moment.



Alarming? It's approximately 1/3rd of our list, i.e. the same fraction of any list that comes off contract in a given year.



a) I'm pretty sure we have no expectations to hold on to them all. After all we still need to delist players to take three picks minimum in this year's draft (and will probably take more).
b) How many times can you get 40 possessions in the NEAFL and not play in the AFL? Shitloads. As a Lions supporter who pays attention to their reserves in the NEAFL for the last few years (results, not actual games), the NEAFL is not up to scratch. The Lions have players kicking bags of 8 or more goals and they're not coming into the team. Plenty of players can rack up 40 possessions in these games if that's their role because they've got higher fitness than their opponents.

Just so very very very much wrong with that article, it's quite frankly hilarious!
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Yeah quite ridiculous. If these guys can barely make it into the gws afl side which gets belted week after week, what chance do they have in another club. Essendon is reluctant to play Daniher in the top grade, and he's arguably the #1 draft pick from last year. At least Sheedy makes a point of rotating players and giving the NEAFL guys a shot in the top grade from time to time.

Sure they'll get better as time goes on, and we certainly need the depth, but this article seems like it was written by those guys who were predicting the mass walkout from GWS.
 
And also its 13 kids that are uncontracted, plus Brogan and Cornes calling it a day - so its very likely given we have 33 players signed up beyond this year that we may just get 3 new draftees and 3 -4 experience players and maybe promote Williams then just offer a few guys up for trade then of the remaining guys give them a chance to train with us and look to pick them up in the rookie draft.
So for the most part we may of re-signed all the players we wanted to.
 

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Ichabod Noodle said:
I see the mass exodus is continuing apace. :D :confused: :p
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Let's just say that if the Israeli exodus out of Egypt was as big as the one we've had, you'd be able to visit the pyramids in Cairo, Israel.
 
"they have a huge challenge to hold on to their entire list of uncontracted players."

Well Duh! We have to drop the numbers on our list as per AFL requirements. No way can we hang onto everyone.

I hope that whoever we lose will get a game and do well wherever they go, but you can't fit 50 players into a list of 38.

I admit to my fondness for the likes of Miles, Bruce, Aylett and Darley because of that first 2011 NEAFL season but ultimately footy is a business where harsh decisions have been made (Clifton & Hombsch) and will continue to be made.
 
WC won't give NN without a fight with Cox on his last legs and Sinclair as well as Lycett are still very unproven. Giles would be demanded as part of the deal. Maybe NN, pick 10-ish for Cogs, Giles, pick 1
 
Giles is essentially another Sinclair for them and I doubt they would want him. Pick 1, cogs and second rounder. It's more then what Carlton paid for Judd... My wish list is NN, frawley/brown, daisy. Others I'd like are FA defenders eg selwood
 
Greater Western Sydney have structured their player payments to allow a raid on established stars at rival clubs this year and do not believe their winless start to the season will impede their recruiting drive.
Having locked away more than 20 of their most valuable youngsters from their draft concessions, the Giants will use the trade and free agency period to plug deficiencies.
The Giants have in the past two seasons cheaply recruited experienced players no longer wanted at their previous clubs, such as Chad Cornes, Bret Thornton and Setanta O'hAilpin. This year will be different.
''We want to create a bit of room for 2014, in particular to try and look at one, two, three - I'm not sure what the number will be - mature-age recruits,'' chief executive David Matthews said. ''Having been through a couple of drafts and used some of our zone selections, now is the time to have a good look at our list and work out on a needs basis what we want to trade and recruit in terms of more mature-age players.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/giants-switch-interest-to-grizzled-stars-20130426-2ijyb.html#ixzz2SKjjs9GL
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Hey Dave Matthews. His name is Nic Naitanui, get him please :)
A few defenders would help but given the performance of mohr I think that he gilham and Davis can hold the key positions until our young talls come of age. Perhaps a couple of mature half backs/pockets is what we need and they can be fairly cheap eg selwood or a star like Thomas/cooney could be the plug our backline needs.
 
Good half yesterday lads, it's building so keeps being patient.

I was just wondering what blokes originally from Sydney/NSW or just over the boarder that are with other clubs that could be keen on ping GWS and you would want.
 

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We need a ruckman to help Giles: Nic Nat, Warnock

A gorilla defender would be good, maybe someone cheap like Markovic from the Dogs.

Do you think of midfield lacks speed or does likes of Whitfield and Shiel make up for it.
 
AsianWithAFro said:
We need a ruckman to help Giles: Nic Nat, Warnock

A gorilla defender would be good, maybe someone cheap like Markovic from the Dogs.

Do you think of midfield lacks speed or does likes of Whitfield and Shiel make up for it.
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Markovic :thumbsdown: I would go after Harry Taylor, Ben Reid or Nathan brown. Treloar, coniglio and shiel all have good leg speed
 
Giant Pete said:
Markovic :thumbsdown: I would go after Harry Taylor, Ben Reid or Nathan brown. Treloar, coniglio and shiel all have good leg speed
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So do Sumner and WHE
 
It frustrating with the amount of talent we have in the midfield yet we seem to be crucified with injuries. I think getting someone like Harry Taylor, Nathan or Mitch Brown would be good. On a side note, I was very impressed by Aidan Corr. He seemed to slot into our back six with ease.
 
Josh Hunt at Geelong is out of contract if we can't get Herry Taylor (which we won't) booming left foot coming out of the back line. Solid as a brick xxxxhouse.
 

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And he's 32 next year.. Not what we need.. I think we need mature players, not players about to retire. Was handy last year and even this year.. But moving fwd I don't think it will serve us as well.
 
I doubt very much that you guys will even interest Harry Taylor. Doesnt seem like a bloke who is motivated by money, if he was to leave geelong he would go back to his home state of perth. He wouldnt go anywhere else
 
Hey guys, just wondering if I could get a bit of info on Josh Growden. I know he was a pre-selection so he can obviously play but I couldn't find much about him or any footage online. How's he been going, what positions and style does he play, and would GWS be prepared to trade him. Thanks in advance.
 
It Just Is said:
Hey guys, just wondering if I could get a bit of info on Josh Growden. I know he was a pre-selection so he can obviously play but I couldn't find much about him or any footage online. How's he been going, what positions and style does he play, and would GWS be prepared to trade him. Thanks in advance.
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Hard to know where Growden is at as he has struggled with injury over the past couple of years. Suffered a bad broken leg near the end of 2011, got back towards the end of last year but has been further plagued by hip problems until he returned to the twos a few weeks ago. Keep an eye out in the second half of the year as he will hopefully string some games together in the NEAFL and get his shot in the senior side.

As for trading him, impossible to know at this point in time. Like the other remaining guys with expiring contracts, it's a wait-and-see until they get signed really.
 
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