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I've got two mates who played against tuck in the vfl a couple of years ago and were adamant he was nothing special. He might have come on a bit since then though.


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His brother Shane played at Carrum Downs in the Southern League. Up till then he had been ordinary. Played the year there, in a team that got pumped by 30 goals a game, but where he got leather poisoning, before he went to Adelaide the following year to play SANFL. Late bloomer who then got picked up by the Tiges and had a pretty solid career, and Im pretty sure a lot of people would have liked Shane Tuck in our side over the past few years. Michael Tuck survived on the Ablett/Tuck geneology for the first few years himself before he was a late bloomer too and we know how that ended up.

I'd be happy to rookie list Travis Tuck. If we picked up Matt Thomas too, we could quickly attain solid inside depth IMO at little risk, leaving the ND for the flash. Sign him on with assurances in relation to drugs etc and set him up with a job and what harm is attained. I've heard nothing but good things since he got kyboshed from the league. He has the support of a very solid family and they have a strong history of achieving later in life. His mum was a star netballer as were his sisters and cousins, and the Dams family name needs no explanantion. Give him a crack.
 

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His brother Shane played at Carrum Downs in the Southern League. Up till then he had been ordinary. Played the year there, in a team that got pumped by 30 goals a game, but where he got leather poisoning, before he went to Adelaide the following year to play SANFL. Late bloomer who then got picked up by the Tiges and had a pretty solid career, and Im pretty sure a lot of people would have liked Shane Tuck in our side over the past few years. Michael Tuck survived on the Ablett/Tuck geneology for the first few years himself before he was a late bloomer too and we know how that ended up.

I'd be happy to rookie list Travis Tuck. If we picked up Matt Thomas too, we could quickly attain solid inside depth IMO at little risk, leaving the ND for the flash. Sign him on with assurances in relation to drugs etc and set him up with a job and what harm is attained. I've heard nothing but good things since he got kyboshed from the league. He has the support of a very solid family and they have a strong history of achieving later in life. His mum was a star netballer as were his sisters and cousins, and the Dams family name needs no explanantion. Give him a crack.

Can't say I have ever thought to myself 'I wish Shane Tuck played for Carlton'.
 

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I have a hard time coming to grips with the definition of risk on this board.

Apparently Tuck, who was found unconscious after an overdose, is less risky than the guy who coached his side to premiership from half forward.
Fair enough too, but, reverse the comparisons to an even keel at least to be fair. You're comparing one extreme to another. What about the kid who turned his life around to be one of the best extractor mids in the SANFL, compared to the kid who was too big for his boots, always injured and was a failed high first round pick? Believe me, I'd take Thorp, and I'd take Tuck, but both have risk and both have huge upside IMO too. Rookie both and I'd be ecstatic. If it costs a selection in the ND for the Thorpedo then 51 is fine with me.
 

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Blues ready for 2013 National Draft
"The draft this year is no different to other years, except it's probably not as deep,” Rogers said.

"It means we're expecting the top 30 or so players to be of an equally high standard.

“However, whether pick 13 will be of the same standard as last year – well we won't know until years down the track."

"When it comes to drafting players to Carlton, we must remember to differentiate between the best players available in the draft, and the best players available for the Club – they're two different types of players,” Rogers said.

"If a player doesn't fit with the culture at a Club, it will affect his long-term performance.

“So ensuring players will fit within our team is something that we take very seriously.

"We put as much science into these decisions as we can, but there is also an element of gut-feel and reflecting on decisions we have made in the past."
Blues ready for 2013 National Draft
 

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Shane Rogers reminds me of Mr. Burns every time I see him.

Interesting comments re: getting the player to fit in the culture of the club, I wonder if he's sending a hidden message here.

I really can't wait for the draft to roll around!
 

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Shane Rogers reminds me of Mr. Burns every time I see him.

Interesting comments re: getting the player to fit in the culture of the club, I wonder if he's sending a hidden message here.

I really can't wait for the draft to roll around!
You don't say ;)
 

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Shane Rogers reminds me of Mr. Burns every time I see him.

Interesting comments re: getting the player to fit in the culture of the club, I wonder if he's sending a hidden message here.

I really can't wait for the draft to roll around!
With just a hint of Rod Laver.
 

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"When it comes to drafting players to Carlton, we must remember to differentiate between the best players available in the draft, and the best players available for the Club – they're two different types of players,” Rogers said.

"If a player doesn't fit with the culture at a Club, it will affect his long-term performance.

“So ensuring players will fit within our team is something that we take very seriously.
Nothing Rogers hasn't alluded to before and nothing that didn't show up on draft day last year.

The term "best available" has found some new meat in recent years. More than talent alone will be required to get you into the CFC from here on in.
I hope that is what I am hearing.
 
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Thorp is a must get, assuming he is serious about the whole AFL career, the guy can play. don't care what level he has been playing, when you are 194cm tall, have that kind of agility, mark above your head, kick straight and most importantly, have the footy smarts he has; its an easy decision.

he is a walk up full forward at Cartlon who can probably play off a wing if need be as well.

my worry is how he handles himself from a mental side; obviously he'd be an easy target to opposition clubs with his history. problem is, there is only one way to find this out.
 

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Thorp is a must get, assuming he is serious about the whole AFL career, the guy can play. don't care what level he has been playing, when you are 194cm tall, have that kind of agility, mark above your head, kick straight and most importantly, have the footy smarts he has; its an easy decision.

he is a walk up full forward at Cartlon who can probably play off a wing if need be as well.

my worry is how he handles himself from a mental side; obviously he'd be an easy target to opposition clubs with his history. problem is, there is only one way to find this out.
Just saying, I would let him go to Cartlon... wherever that is... I would only take Thorp as a rookie TBH.
 
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http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/footy-tragics-top-50-power-rankings-progressive.1040150/

Have no idea how many games this guy sees but it's refreshing to have ones personal selections as opposed to just what may happen.

Sheed at @ #2 Jones @ #13 Crouch @ #50

Would like to see Carlton go with the best available KP player first pick. So possibly McCarthy, then take risks on Garlett and Thorp at the relevant stages (garlett in ND and Thorpe in RD if still there)..Any descent mids available would be ideal after that..

For years KP depth has been poor at Carlton. We do have ageing players in Judd, Simmo, Scotland, and Carrots, but mids are a lot easier to obtain via other avenues such as trades, free agency, state leagues and also develop quicker..There are also possibilities of listed players becoming mids similar to steve johnson's changes in position from permanent forward to prominant midfielder in the post ablett era at geelong. Yarran, Garlett, Menzel, Graham are all young with experience at AFL level and Sam Docherty is also a good type for a midfield role in the future..I have no doubt these players will all be developed to go through the midfield and forwardline at Carlton under the current regime..

So for me, its the best available KP player and then take some risks to get the best footballers regardless of personality and get them towing the line..
 

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Does anyone know why Anthony Miles got delisted from GWS he was a freakshow in the TAC comp a couple of years ago. I remember him averaging 30+ possies a game. Would love to see him in the Navy Blue if he is fit
 

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Thorp is a must get, assuming he is serious about the whole AFL career, the guy can play. don't care what level he has been playing, when you are 194cm tall, have that kind of agility, mark above your head, kick straight and most importantly, have the footy smarts he has; its an easy decision.

he is a walk up full forward at Cartlon who can probably play off a wing if need be as well.

my worry is how he handles himself from a mental side; obviously he'd be an easy target to opposition clubs with his history. problem is, there is only one way to find this out.
I couldn't agree more and with the boys in the guts pumping it down to his throat. All he has to do is drill them from straight in front which is what we have struggled with the past few years since Fev left.
 
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