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Our Favourite "Inside News Breaker" Paige Cardona has released her Mock Draft on her website.

Looks pretty good.

Pick #13 - Marcus Bontempelli

Marcus Bontempelli
Club: Northern Knights
D.O.B.: 24.11.1995
Height: 191cm
Weight: 83kg
Position: Tall Midfielder/Utility
Plays Like: Scott Pendlebury
The cousin of Nick Dal Santo, Marcus Bontempelli – is famous for his 50-disposal effort at APS level, comprising of some ridiculous numbers, but nonetheless I’ve had the astute pleasure of seeing plenty of Knights games this year, and Bontempelli is somebody who has quietly gone about his business, yet now finds himself propelled into the spot light and a top 10 selection on November 21. Best described as an athletic and more versatile Jack Watts type, with an injection of Scott Pendlebury’s deft touch and lateral movement – Bontempelli is a rangy midfielder, capable of playing an array of positions, which not only gives him some serious versatility, but a good dose of x-factor, too. A brilliant decision maker and an impeccable footy brain, Bontempelli has mixed an elite endurance base, with speed and agility whilst stamping himself along with Northern Knights teammate, Ben Lennon as one of the best marks of this year’s draft intake. Bontempelli offers an deadly kick rating, operating at a high efficiency of 79% throughout the championships, albeit he had a quieter than usual showing at the National carnival. Bontempelli has outside speed and enough class to go inside 50 and find a target, or finish himself from close, or long range. At 191cms, Bontempelli has earned high praise for his class at the stoppages, excelling in his clearance work making him a tantalising prospect on draft night.
Other Prospects: The Blues loom likely to land a gift this draft, and it could come in the way of Marcus Bontempelli, despite arch rivals not only overlooking Bontempelli, but in doing so have favoured Cameron McCarthy ahead of him – a player strongly linked to Carlton with their first round selection. Blake Acres still looks good here, but it’s hard to see Carlton overlooking Bontempelli should he drop this far down the order.


http://www.scpaige.com.au/phantom-draft-november-edition/

FYI - the rest went as:


GWS - Boyd
GWS - Kelly
St Kilda - Billings
WB - Aish
GC - KK
Coll - Scharenberg
Bris - Freeman
North Melb - McDonald
Melb - Salem
Coll - McCarthy
WCE - Sheed
Rich - Lennon
Carl - Bontempelli
 

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So what i've learned from this thread is that no one at all (Bigfooty or experts) really knows what's happening in this draft and teams may as well be drawing the Top 20 from a hat after pick 1.
 

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Our Favourite "Inside News Breaker" Paige Cardona has released her Mock Draft on her website.

Looks pretty good.

Pick #13 - Marcus Bontempelli





http://www.scpaige.com.au/phantom-draft-november-edition/

FYI - the rest went as:


GWS - Boyd
GWS - Kelly
St Kilda - Billings
WB - Aish
GC - KK
Coll - Scharenberg
Bris - Freeman
North Melb - McDonald
Melb - Salem
Coll - McCarthy
WCE - Sheed
Rich - Lennon
Carl - Bontempelli
She claims her Collingwood sources say Collingwood don't want Bontempelli anymore. Apparently pick 6 will be the player who slides from top 5 (ie. Scharenberg or Aish) and pick 10 will be a development player (most likely McCarthy because they got rid of Paine and Gault).

Even if Bontempelli doesn't slide, someone else will. Just need McCarthy to go top 10. Although I may be repeating myself :p
 

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She claims her Collingwood sources say Collingwood don't want Bontempelli anymore. Apparently pick 6 will be the player who slides from top 5 (ie. Scharenberg or Aish) and pick 10 will be a development player (most likely McCarthy because they got rid of Paine and Gault).

Even if Bontempelli doesn't slide, someone else will. Just need McCarthy to go top 10. Although I may be repeating myself :p

Lets hope its not the same sources that told her Dale Thomas had re-signed at Collingwood.
 

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Lets hope its not the same sources that told her Dale Thomas had re-signed at Collingwood.
Hence I used the word 'claim' and 'apparently'. She had him going to Collingwood one day then Hawthorn the next when Buddy left. Guess she just couldn't stomach Thomas wanting to be a Blue. But hopefully she is right this one time about Bontempelli destined to be a Blue ;)
 

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Quirky Quigley has finally released his Phantom.

This is what he has coming to us along with some interesting sliders............Lennon @ 26


13 Carlton

Carlton are in win now mode and I see them taking someone who is going to be able to step in and play right away. I think Dunstan and Dumont are both big chances here given both have stood up in senior company and both offering an inside game which would assist Judd and Murphy. But with Dunstan gone and Dumont not being at the top of my list I am going with Acres instead. Acres should be right to do a full preseason and to play round 1. He is a bit more outside than Carlton would ideally want but he could come in in round 1 and play in the roles that Scotland and Simpson have been playing. If Carlton were planning for the future McCarthy should be a big show here and Cripps maybe an outside chance.

Blake Acres
DOB 7/10/95 Ht 190 Wt 87

Okay on what I have seen of Acres he does not deserve to be this high but I am slotting him in here in deference to the near universal acclaim he receives from our WA brethren. He is very highly thought of by the WAFL watchers on here (see clipboardsbinocs write up) as well as the WA coaches from my understanding as well as a few other watchers that I know from WA. Given that he went into the Champs having just returned after a shoulder injury I am willing to concede that he might not have been at his best. He did his shoulder in May and had one or two games back before playing his two Champs games. After those two below par games he decided to go in for surgery which put him out for the rest of the year. He did test at Combine but the results were significantly below what he tested earlier in the year although I have a few queries about the veracity of those results.

There is a comparison of his results on his player thread on this board and given there were a couple of results that had me raise my eyebrow I asked someone at a club whether the results were true. He confirmed that those were the results that were provided to the clubs. Call me sceptical but when the repeat sprint time is almost 2 seconds better than the best ever Combine time I am thinking that maybe they are not as reliable as they could be. He managed to run only a 13.08 at Combine in the beep and earlier in the year he had a 15.2. His ran a 3.05 in the 20m at Combine and is down for a 2.94 earlier in the year. There were also very big differences in his results in the jumps which were borderline elite when tested earlier and similarly in the agility. From watching him play I take his playing athleticism somewhere in the middle.

He gets around the park very well and I think he certainly has decent endurance. At the Champs he did not do particularly well but his best quarter did come in the last quarter of the SA game where he ran out the game very well running hard to provide an option. His speed I would not put in the elite category and he is occasionally run down but generally I think his functional speed is good. I do not think he is particularly elusive and when he tries to shimmy or step he does not really sell it and is often collared or at least forced to shrug off the tackler.

He has good height for a midfielder and probably plays even taller than he measures. Even at the Champs where he had his shoulder issue he was a strong mark and before that in the WAFL Colts he got high and clunked quite a lot of nice marks in traffic. He judges the ball well in the air and is not distracted by what others are doing. He is strong going up for the ball and is not easily moved off it. He only played 9 games in the WAFL Colts this year in a variety of roles. He got forward toward the end of this stint and finished with 9 goals in his last 4 games. It will be interesting to see where he ends up playing at AFL level. Personally I think he will start as a HBF as that is probably likely to be easier on his shoulder than up forward.

He reminds me a bit of Heppell and like him he should start at the back before moving into the midfield as he develops. He has nice height and is a good mark and has the athleticism to do a job when required. It is possible that he could start as an outside mid but that would depend on the team who selects him. He is a smart footballer and should do well wherever he starts. His inside game needs some work but he is a fair chance to get up to speed as he plays more there. He has good strength and balance in the contest but his hands are not particularly quick. He can on occasion be a little slow getting the ball away and can miss his targets a bit when under pressure.

By foot some people think he is elite and some think he is fairly poor. At the Champs he was probably somewhere in the middle. He certainly missed his fair share of targets and had he lacked a bit of punch in his kicking. His penetration was somewhat inconsistent with sometimes it being very good and at others coming up short. He is a right footer and fairly dominantly so. With the shoulder injury he seemed to go on his left more at the Champs and the results were fairly erratic with a few targets missed badly. It was not all negative with his kicking however. He also hit some very good targets and when in space seems to evaluate things well. Around goal he balances up quickly and is a good shot.

Acres only played 9 WAFL Colts games this year and none in the seniors. In the Colts he averaged 27 disposals per game but only 11 disposals in the games in the Champs. So we had two very different players in the competitions. Which one is the true player will be the important question that teams will need to decide.
 

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Bontempelli, Acres or Dunstan firming at Carlton's pick ladies and gents. McCarthy's invite and the late news re Pies and Macca (added to the fact we've apparently 'gone cold' on him) mean he's a strong possibility to go top 10.

Personally, I think that tall midfielder would add a new dimension to our relatively short (in comparison to Freo for example) mids. Not that heigh is everything, but a Bonts or Acres would give us a Pendlebury-type potential for the future - I can live with that.

Dunstan was rated highly all year but injuries meant he didn't show his full potential. Can see him as a future captain of the club and a likely R1 starter (would at least push for it).
 

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If Acres has so many flaws, why would we draft him at 13? :oops:

Read the subtext, Quigley bagged him mercilessly and only put him that high because all the knowledgeable phantomistas have him in the 8-20 range. :rolleyes:
 

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Also re Thorp (last post I swear): not sure if it's been mentioned but Freo likely to take him at 37 so we may be talking a lot about nothing. Still reckon we should get some tall depth in the drafts, but can see that maybe coming in the rookie/PSD maybe.

How would this fit our needs/wants...

13 - Bontempelli/Acres/Dunstan (tall mid)
39 - Hewett/Hourigan/Reynolds (mid fwd or Hewett, who I rate)
51 - Cain/Knight/Holman/Harvey (hungry player - mid or slider from top 50)

PSD - Cornelius (mid-tall fwd)

Rookie Draft
Kane Lambert (Northern Blues)
Adam Marcon (Northern Blues)
Max King/Cam Conlon or Ben Brown (ruck that wasn't picked up in ND)
 

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I have to say, I really don't think I'll be disappointed if I hear Rogers call out Dunstan's name at #13.

I agree -

He reminds me a bit of Ollie Wines.

Looks like he has a similar sort of awkward kicking action to Brock, but seems to like to run with the ball a bit more and doesn't look as one-paced as him.
 

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If Acres has so many flaws, why would we draft him at 13? :oops:

Read the subtext, Quigley bagged him mercilessly and only put him that high because all the knowledgeable phantomistas have him in the 8-20 range. :rolleyes:
Spot on Azul. He might as well have saved himself the trouble of all that spiel by writing "others rate him but I think he is a potato."

I'm avoiding that thread like the plague.
Smart man. I had to have a shower after I left there last time and not going back.
 

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Brett Anderson's recent mail has us affirming our interest in Patty Cripps from WA with 13. Recently flew over to see him again...

Very underrated player who many believe top 15 on talent. There's not a huge gap between 10-25 - I've seen just about every player from Templeton, Apeness to Crouch and Dunstan everywhere from 15-30 so it may be a case of the top 12-13 clubs in the draft pick who they want and those at the end of 1st round mop up some top kids...

Thoughts on Cripps?
 

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Brett Anderson thinks we're keen on Patrick Cripps at #13 .... and would even overlook Lennon for him :eek: (who he has going to GWS with the next pick).

http://www.sen.com.au/inside-footba...13/Inside-Football-Mock-Draft--Nov-15th/62506

13. Carlton
Patrick Cripps | East Fremantle | 192cm | 90kg

Carlton’s interest in the big-bodied onballer has intensified over the past few weeks and they even reportedly flew to Geraldton to meet up with him recently. Having only previously been thought of as a second round pick, he’s a bit of a bolter in what looms as a very even draft and has been likened by East Fremantle watchers to Jobe Watson.
In the mix: Ben Lennon, Luke Dunstan
 

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We wanted Cripps @ 32, that's why we didn't want to hand it over to Lions for Doc. But then we had to downgrade it to 39 for Everitt. I doubt that has made us now want him at 13. Anderson probably just thought Carlton want Cripps and assumed 13. There's no way we'd overlook Lennon - well, you'd hope not.
 

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If we are in win now mode why would we draft Acres when he is apparently years away from playing in the midfield?
 

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We wanted Cripps @ 32, that's why we didn't want to hand it over to Lions for Doc. But then we had to downgrade it to 39 for Everitt. I doubt that has made us now want him at 13. Anderson probably just thought Carlton want Cripps and assumed 13. There's no way we'd overlook Lennon - well, you'd hope not.
Let's hope etsal. Lennon would be a nice get, but wouldn't be unhappy of any of: Dunstan, Salem, Freeman, Bonts or McCarthy. Cripps a stretch at 13 imo but if he's the man we want, I'll back McKay and Mick to turn him into a superstar.

Underrated from what I hear and was pegged to fall due to turning up at combine in poor shape. But from what I gather, he:

  • Is a great size for a tall mid in the ilk of JPK
  • Learning to use his body to his advantage
  • Is the 2nd best inside player in the draft by all accounts (behind Crouch)
  • Has good decision-making skills
  • Is a great user of the footy on both sides
  • Can kick it well, but lacks pentration over 50 (possibly a confidence thing)
  • Very coachable lad, who would fit into any club with ease
  • Doesn't mind moving interstate (attended boarding school in Y8)
  • Has vastly improved on certain weaknesses in 2013, which gives promise he can do the same with any others
I'm sold. Put him on the list of 'I'd be Happy With' players.
 
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