Review 2013 - Redo the 2013 AFL draft

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Those 40+ names (rookies included) are:

  1. Acres.
  2. Aish.
  3. Ambrose.
  4. Barrass.
  5. Billings.
  6. Bontempelli.
  7. Boyd.
  8. Brown. (First time eligibility was 2010.)
  9. Byrne-Jones.
  10. Cameron.
  11. Cripps.
  12. Crouch.
  13. Cutler.
  14. Dumont.
  15. Dunstan.
  16. Fantasia.
  17. Gardiner.
  18. Harmes.
  19. Hartung.
  20. Hewett. (He debuted in 2016 and is already up to 71 games.)
  21. Hunt.
  22. Impey.
  23. Jones.
  24. Jake Kelly.
  25. Josh Kelly.
  26. Knight.
  27. Kolodjashnij's.
  28. Langdon.(First time eligibility was 2012.)
  29. Lobb.
  30. McCarthy.
  31. McDonald.
  32. McStay.
  33. Merrett.
  34. Nankervis. (First time eligibility was 2012.)
  35. Pearce.
  36. Robertson.
  37. Salem.
  38. Scharenberg.
  39. Sheed.
  40. Sicily.
  41. Taylor.
  42. Turner.
On name view, it bats deep.

Quality wise, definitely large gaps.

But, like many drafts, this top group is midfield heavy.
Hogan can be included to as this would be his draft class as well. Which only adds to it's insane depth.
 
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Might as well have a go at this..

1. Cripps
2. Kelly
3. Brown
4. Bont
5. Merrett
6. M Crouch
7. Sicily
8. Barass
9. Fantasia
10. Gardiner
11. Nankervis
12. Langdon
13. Sheed
14. Billings
15. Scharenberg

It drops off quickly after 10 but as someone said there are 40+ solid contributors and role players, many who will end up as premiership players and carve out some handy careers


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1. Kelly
2. Cripps
3. Sicily
4. Bont
5. Merrett

The Lions drafted Aish, Gardiner, McStay, Taylor, Cutler and Robertson in this draft. All bar Aish are currently still on our list and are best 22 players. Great draft for us. Gardiner in particular is a ripper.
I reckon you’ve got the top 3 right there.

Kelly is sublime. Just glides across the park. Silky skills too.

Cripps is an absolute beast of a player, he just needs to stay healthy.

Sic was on track to be AA before busting his wrist. If he can keep his head together for a full season the fortunes of the side will benefit greatly
 

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I reckon you’ve got the top 3 right there.

Kelly is sublime. Just glides across the park. Silky skills too.

Cripps is an absolute beast of a player, he just needs to stay healthy.

Sic was on track to be AA before busting his wrist. If he can keep his head together for a full season the fortunes of the side will benefit greatly
Interesting criteria.
 

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Can you find someone else to send notifications too.
You spend a strange amount of time here for someone that wants to avoid notifications.

Its interesting that you use Sicily almost making AA as a reason for him being top three ahead of 2 others that did make AA.

I'd have both of them over him, and Brown as well.
 
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Each of Zach Merrett’s five seasons have been better than each of Sicily’s; on no planet is Sicily ahead to date
It is very relevant to consider the player relative to their position. Merrett is basically the 5th best midfielder from this draft, while Sicily is no doubt the best defender, while demonstrating ability as a swingman. Even if Merrett has performed "better" (subjective), you also have to consider how replaceable that player is.

This is another reason why Ben Brown would feature quite high on these lists. He is obviously not as good as Bont, Kelly, Cripps, Sicily and possibly even Merrett and Crouch, but I'd easily put him top 5 based on the fact that decent key forwards are hard to come by
 
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I reckon you’ve got the top 3 right there.

Kelly is sublime. Just glides across the park. Silky skills too.

Cripps is an absolute beast of a player, he just needs to stay healthy.

Sic was on track to be AA before busting his wrist. If he can keep his head together for a full season the fortunes of the side will benefit greatly
In no world does Sicily get drafted ahead of Brown, Bont and Merrett in a redraft
 

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Each of Zach Merrett’s five seasons have been better than each of Sicily’s; on no planet is Sicily ahead to date
Midfielders are a necessity for every side and every side has them. I drew no comparison with Merrett because he’s just another midfielder in amongst a top few in the list.

Sicily is a defender in the McGovern mold who intercepts almost everything and sends it back the other way with interest, and he has been one of the most damaging in that role since he moved there mid-2017.
 

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In no world does Sicily get drafted ahead of Brown, Bont and Merrett in a redraft
In your opinion.

In my opinion it would be arguable in the case of Bontempelli as he has plateaued quite a bit, but you’re probably correct on Brown.

Merrett isn’t really in the conversation with any of the above players.
 
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In your opinion.

In my opinion it would be arguable in the case of Bontempelli as he has plateaued quite a bit, but you’re probably correct on Brown.

Merrett isn’t really in the conversation with any of the above players.
Of course you would say that...
 
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In your opinion.

In my opinion it would be arguable in the case of Bontempelli as he has plateaued quite a bit, but you’re probably correct on Brown.

Merrett isn’t really in the conversation with any of the above players.
Your argument for Sicily was that he was nearly AA. But a player who is a proven AA is not even in the conversation.. You keep doing you man
 

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As would Virgin Dog it seems.

Are you going to argue that the 4-5th best performed midfielder from this draft is better than the best key defender from it?
Where they play is irrelevant. There could be 3 midfielders outperforming the best key defender in a draft (such as 2008 where really only Sidebottom, Beams and Hannebery have outperformed Hurley) or there could be 10 that have outperformed them (Such as 2010 where Gaff, Heppell, Smith, Swallow, Guthrie, Parker, Libba, Prestia, Lyons etc have all outperformed the few key defenders of that draft). On consistency of performance Merrett year upon year Merrett has outperformed Sicily comfortably.
 

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In your opinion.

In my opinion it would be arguable in the case of Bontempelli as he has plateaued quite a bit, but you’re probably correct on Brown.

Merrett isn’t really in the conversation with any of the above players.
Bontempelli plateauing is largely due to carrying injury all year. He was struggling with hip troubles all year, and once he took the fortnight off to deal with appendicitis, he came back fit and healthy. Ended up in probably some of the best form of his career for the last 5 games of 2018, so while it is largely subjective, I'd argue he hasn't really plateaued, just been set back a bit by injury this year
 
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