Review 2013 - Redo the 2013 AFL draft

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Each of Zach Merrett’s five seasons have been better than each of Sicily’s; on no planet is Sicily ahead to date
Disagree. Intercepting defenders who can hurt the other way are worth their weight in gold. Sicily will soon be the best intercepting/rebounding defender in the comp. Merrett is a good midfielder and obviously has much better stats over his career but in terms of value I would take Sicily.
 

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Disagree. Intercepting defenders who can hurt the other way are worth their weight in gold. Sicily will soon be the best intercepting/rebounding defender in the comp. Merrett is a good midfielder and obviously has much better stats over his career but in terms of value I would take Sicily.
You have the 188cm Sicily outperforming McGovern and Rance soon? Sheer lack of size will prevent him from becoming the best in the comp imo
 

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You have the 188cm Sicily outperforming McGovern and Rance soon? Sheer lack of size will prevent him from becoming the best in the comp imo
Sicily plays much taller than he actually is. What he lacks in height he makes up for with his ability to read the flight of the ball and his jumping. We've seen him outmark players much taller than him consistently for the last couple of years.
 

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While this draft bats pretty deep, the following years will determine whether or not the depth is still 40+ or will it trim somewhat?

Also, I feel comfortable saying that Sam Gray forever stays above Aish until their careers end.
Gray has played more consistently I've felt and does his job well while Aish I feel has floated in and out too many times in games.
 

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Sicily plays much taller than he actually is. What he lacks in height he makes up for with his ability to read the flight of the ball and his jumping. We've seen him outmark players much taller than him consistently for the last couple of years.
Still don't seem home catching the likes of Rance and McGovern any time soon
 

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Still don't seem home catching the likes of Rance and McGovern any time soon
In 2017 after he was moved into this role only Rance won more intercept possessions. Late in that season he had also taken more marks in defence than anyone else, and was equal 1st for contested marks in defensive 50. His 2018 was even better, but was hindered by suspension and the broken wrist.
 

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In 2017 after he was moved into this role only Rance won more intercept possessions. Late in that season he had also taken more marks in defence than anyone else, and was equal 1st for contested marks in defensive 50. His 2018 was even better, but was hindered by suspension and the broken wrist.
Not all intercept possessions are equal and are a function of the role you are given in a side. Marty Gleeson lead the comp for intercepts over an 8 week period in 2017. Ben Stratton stepped up and became an elite intercept player when handed Sicily's role in Hawthorn side.

I'm not saying Sicily isn't a gun as his kicking ability makes him an extremely damaging player but he's never going to be in the same class as blokes who can beat the gun KPFs whilst also launching attacks through intercepts.

Mid size intercept players just aren't rare enough commodities in the AFL to take them ahead of elite midfielders imo.
 

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Not all intercept possessions are equal and are a function of the role you are given in a side. Marty Gleeson lead the comp for intercepts over an 8 week period in 2017. Ben Stratton stepped up and became an elite intercept player when handed Sicily's role in Hawthorn side.

I'm not saying Sicily isn't a gun as his kicking ability makes him an extremely damaging player but he's never going to be in the same class as blokes who can beat the gun KPFs whilst also launching attacks through intercepts.

Mid size intercept players just aren't rare enough commodities in the AFL to take them ahead of elite midfielders imo.
He’s already doing this.
 

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Id have Merrett over Sicily.

With Murphy dropping away from the player he once was, we could use a player like Merrett in our side.

Weirdly the Dons could use a contested inside mid like Cripps to feed the ball out to Merrett and now Shiel on the outside.

We got lucky and the game after Judd went down, Cripps stepped up. The Dons dont really have a player that stepped into the void left by Watson.
 

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People talk about Sicily's intercepting skills but often don't mention his kicking, one of the most damaging kicks in the comp right now. Can kick 50-60m and they are bullets to hit a player on the chest. Can hit the scoreboard off half back and has one of the most beautiful faces in the game. Has to be right near the top in re drafts.
 
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People talk about Sicily's intercepting skills but often don't mention his kicking, one of the most damaging kicks in the comp right now. Can kick 50-60m and they are bullets to hit a player on the chest. Can hit the scoreboard off half back and has one of the most beautiful faces in the game. Has to be right near the top in re drafts.
It was mentioned literally 5 posts ago...
 

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People talk about Sicily's intercepting skills but often don't mention his kicking, one of the most damaging kicks in the comp right now. Can kick 50-60m and they are bullets to hit a player on the chest. Can hit the scoreboard off half back and has one of the most beautiful faces in the game. Has to be right near the top in re drafts.
Sicily is very good no doubt. I get his kicking is elite. I keep coming back to our game at Spotless last year though. When both teams tacitly agreed on a loose back it was Haynes that dominated. He's more mature and near his peak I'll concede.
 

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Id have Merrett over Sicily.

With Murphy dropping away from the player he once was, we could use a player like Merrett in our side.

Weirdly the Dons could use a contested inside mid like Cripps to feed the ball out to Merrett and now Shiel on the outside.

We got lucky and the game after Judd went down, Cripps stepped up. The Dons dont really have a player that stepped into the void left by Watson.
Shiel was 2nd in clearances for the league in 2017, sure he played more outside last season but he'll slot into the inside role for us in 2019.
 

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Except for 2018. Without injury Sicily was AA level. Merrett was never in the conversation.
Because there is greater competition. Merrett started the season roughly but at the close, his form was back to his best, and he was a huge factor in Essendon collecting 10 wins from their final 14 games.

Yeah Sicily was having a splendid year, but Merrett ended up on top.
 

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Because there is greater competition. Merrett started the season roughly but at the close, his form was back to his best, and he was a huge factor in Essendon collecting 10 wins from their final 14 games.

Yeah Sicily was having a splendid year, but Merrett ended up on top.
Based on what?

I would argue his peak throughout the season wasn't as high and his form was more inconsistent. The only thing he gets a the nod over Sicily on is games played.
 

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Based on what?

I would argue his peak throughout the season wasn't as high and his form was more inconsistent. The only thing he gets a the nod over Sicily on is games played.
Based on footy games that Merrett played. I get that consistently consistent players set the bar high but Merrett was playing elite footy in the back end of the year.
 

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Based on footy games that Merrett played. I get that consistently consistent players set the bar high but Merrett was playing elite footy in the back end of the year.
And wasn't at the start of the year, so he wasn't consistently consistent like you said? Quality player who wasn't at his best this year.
 

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Sicily has had one elite season to date, whilst Merrett has had multiple great seasons. I personally really like Merrett as a player, he reminds me of Sam Mitchell around the packs TBH.

Sicily is a very unique player though and is one of the very best kicks in the league in terms of accuracy, penetration and distance. He's also an elite mark. He was heading towards his maiden AA if not for his injury and will likely be a perennial AA candidate. Another year of this kind of season and he's cementing his spot in the top 5 of this draft over midfielders like Merrett, but as of now I think it goes like this:

J. Kelly
P. Cripps
The Bont (if not for injuries he'd be #2)
B. Brown
Z. Merrett
J. Sicily
M. Crouch
T. Barrass
T. Nankervis
D. Gardiner

Best of the rest:
D. Sheed
O. Fantasia
J. Billings
T. Langdon
T. Boyd
R. Lobb
Z. Jones
J. Impey
M. Scharenberg
A. Pearce
G. Hewett
C. Cameron
L. McDonald
A. Aliir
L. Dunstan
L. Taylor
K.K.
DBJ
 

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Because there is greater competition. Merrett started the season roughly but at the close, his form was back to his best, and he was a huge factor in Essendon collecting 10 wins from their final 14 games.

Yeah Sicily was having a splendid year, but Merrett ended up on top.
I disagree - Sicily was as good as any backmen in the comp - averaged 23 touches and kicked 6 goals in 16 games. Merrett as a mid averaged 26 touches and kick 6 goals in 22 games.
 
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