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I'd re-sign:- Hayes (one more year), Jones, Schneider, up grade Curren, Minchington keep rookie listed unless his two years is up, if so up grade.

Simpkin, Maister and Ray all depends on who we get during the draft and trade period.

All the other boys delist or trade for what ever we can get for them.
 

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Below is a list of players whom have not yet signed contracts beyond 2013:


Lenny Hayes (unrestricted free agent)
Stephen Milne (unrestricted free agent)
Jason Blake (unrestricted free agent)
Justin Koschitzke (unrestricted free agent)
Clint Jones
Adam Schneider
Beau Maister
Farren Ray
Terry Milera
Tom Simpkin
Cameron Shenton (R)
Tom Ledger
Tom Curren (R)
Jackson Ferguson(R)
Jay Lever
Jordan Staley (R)
Darren Minchington (R)

These are the players at highest risk of being cut from our list. The club has shown that it can be ruthless, though, and players with existing contracts are not necessarily safe

I believe that most of these players won't have a spot on list next year. I hope Lenny goes again, upgrade Curren, keep Jones, Maister for deptb and Schneider will be 50/50 depending on how his body holds up for remainder of season.
 

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My money is on the retirements of Kosi, Blake & Schneider... Lenny & Milne to play in the mould of James McDonald in the GWS first season, in being 'playing' coaches/mentors for the midfielders & small forwards respectively.

No doubt the Bigfooty trolls will be all over us with Hayes (34) & Milne (34) playing on, as it will continue the exaggeration of the age of our list :rolleyes:
 
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My money is on the retirements of Kosi, Blake & Schneider... Lenny & Milne to play in the mould of James McDonald in the GWS first season, in being 'playing' coaches/mentors for the midfielders & small forwards respectively.

No doubt the Bigfooty trolls will be all over us with Hayes (34) & Milne (34) playing on, as it will continue the exaggeration of the age of our list :rolleyes:
I believe MILNE will go and SCHNEIDER stay on otherwise I agree.

I think the club needs to follow the rest of the competition and move away from having more than one specialist forward pocket player which retiring Milney will be the start of.
 
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mitch brown is going to re-sign for three years. cross him off the list
If true it would be a shame as we would most likely get him reasonably cheaply during this trade period. Wow that will put the Saints trading/recruiting team under pressure and highlight even more the decisions made in past years.
 

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Below is a list of players whom have not yet signed contracts beyond 2013:


Lenny Hayes (unrestricted free agent) [too awesome to let go]
Stephen Milne (unrestricted free agent) [too old, too complicated]
Jason Blake (unrestricted free agent) [too old, not contributing at AFL level]
Justin Koschitzke (unrestricted free agent) [too old, too broken]
Clint Jones [contributing at AFL, and great role model]
Adam Schneider [too broken, but gee I'd love him to stay]
Beau Maister [depth... but we need that with youngs like Lee and Spence, and olds like Roo]
Farren Ray [contributing at AFL]
Terry Milera [soft, doesn't want to be there]
Tom Simpkin [we can't afford to lose ANY KPDs right now, and I think Tom's hardness helps us]
Cameron Shenton (R) [shows some promise, but not enough to be upgraded]
Tom Ledger [I say nothing]
Tom Curren (R) [they love him at the club]
Jackson Ferguson(R) [tragically, a failed long term experiment, but may get upgraded]
Jay Lever [soft]
Jordan Staley (R) [they're running out of patience]
Darren Minchington (R) [one of Watters' favourites]

These are the players at highest risk of being cut from our list. The club has shown that it can be ruthless, though, and players with existing contracts are not necessarily safe
The ones crossed out are the ones I reckon that will be gone next year, and the orange ones are those that are in a precarious position.

If they only delist the crossed out ones, that's still 6 taken off the main list, with 3 taken off the rookie list [Shenton gone, Curren upgraded, Fergs upgraded or gone]. Turning over 9 players on our list will be enough of a shock, I'd suggest.
 
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How i see it panning out:

Retire:
Lenny Hayes
Stephen Milne
Justin Koschitzke
Jason Blake
Adam Schneider 50/50 (Depending on body)

Delist/Trade:
Tom Ledger (Doesn't seem in Watters plans)
Jay Lever
Terry Milera 50/50
Cameron Shenton (R)

Elevate Tom Curren.
Jackson Ferguson also has to be elevated but not sure if he will or not.. Think he will

Not sure what will happen with Farren Ray and Clinton Jones think we'll keep them if the bunch above i named all retire.
 
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The ones crossed out are the ones I reckon that will be gone next year, and the orange ones are those that are in a precarious position.

If they only delist the crossed out ones, that's still 6 taken off the main list, with 3 taken off the rookie list [Shenton gone, Curren upgraded, Fergs upgraded or gone]. Turning over 9 players on our list will be enough of a shock, I'd suggest.
Trouble is, from the 6 you you have 3 upgrades, leaving only 3 draft picks.
So I'm thinking Ferg hasn't done enough. Not sure about Staley.
Minch can rookie another year I think.
 
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How i see it panning out:

Retire:
Lenny Hayes
Stephen Milne
Justin Koschitzke
Jason Blake
Adam Schneider 50/50 (Depending on body)

Delist/Trade:
Tom Ledger (Doesn't seem in Watters plans)
Jay Lever
Terry Milera 50/50
Cameron Shenton (R)

Elevate Tom Curren.
Jackson Ferguson also has to be elevated but not sure if he will or not.. Think he will

Not sure what will happen with Farren Ray and Clinton Jones think we'll keep them if the bunch above i named all retire.
This is the opposite, what would we do with 6 draft picks?
 

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Trouble is, from the 6 you you have 3 upgrades, leaving only 3 draft picks.
So I'm thinking Ferg hasn't done enough. Not sure about Staley.
Minch can rookie another year I think.
Yeah, I could see them upgrading TC and MAYBE Fergs (though to be honest, I think they should just let him go), Minch might get upgraded because of the Scotty-love. Maybe that gets a few of the orange players in that list more under the pump.
 
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Trade in a couple of KPD's and take few drafts picks into the draft.. Maybe try and snare a Delisted FA or normal FA as well.
OK but from your listed players only Ledger and Milera would conceivably be part of a trade, and that's doubtful. And while earlier picks may be needed to trade for a defender, its not going to make draft picks 5 or 6 any more valuable.
 
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