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List Mgmt. 2014 Draft Discussion Part II

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He looks fairly useless to me
Turns the ball over regularly, no thanks don't need those types.
Lol a mate showed me a highlights package of Petracca midseason. I thought the exact same thing about him, can get ball, turns it over lol

End of the day it's a small snippet of what these kids are like as players.

That vid shows he gets in and gets the ball, can run with it and the fact as a mid I'm guessing they trust him with the kicking in duties would suggest he was one of the better kicks in that side.
 
Appears to be rated somewhere between our first and second .
According to who, most of the phantoms that are out have him outside the top 40, so don't even rate him at all. Don't be mistaken I like the kid and would be wrapped if we picked him up with a 3rd round pick based on those rankings.
 

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Bottom aged I think and so has more room for improvement. Many think he is a dark horse in this draft with the potential to become one of the better players from this cohort.

Yeah I've heard the same. He'd be the best option outside of Weller/Ahern/Laverde/Pickett.
 
Lol a mate showed me a highlights package of Petracca midseason. I thought the exact same thing about him, can get ball, turns it over lol

End of the day it's a small snippet of what these kids are like as players.

That vid shows he gets in and gets the ball, can run with it and the fact as a mid I'm guessing they trust him with the kicking in duties would suggest he was one of the better kicks in that side.
No, no, you have it all wrong, a two minute junior snippet defines your career, FOR EVER!!!
 
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2014 NAB AFL DRAFT COMBINE STANDOUT RESULTS

3km time trial (minutes : seconds)
Jack Hiscox 9:18
Tom Lamb 9:45
Alex Neal-Bullen 9:54
Billy Stretch 9:57
Nathan Drummond 9:59
Josh Deluca-Cardillo 10:07
Daniel McKenzie 10:07
Connor Menadue 10:07
Liam Duggan 10:11
Jack Steele 10:11

Beep test/shuttle run (level)
Caleb Daniel 16.1
Jack Hiscox 16.1
Nathan Drummond 15.9
Tom Lamb 15.5
Ed Langdon 15.3
Jarrod Garlett 15.2
Alex Neal-Bullen 15.2
Jason Castagna 15.2
Billy Stretch 15.1
Jack Steele 15.1
Jordan Cunico 14.12
Christian Petracca 14.12

Kicking test (score out of 30)
Nakia Cockatoo 29
Daniel Howe 28
Kyle Langford 28
Toby McLean 27
Michael Mattingly 27
Nathan Drummond 27
Dean Gore 27
Brett Eddy 27
Clem Smith 26
Liam Duggan 26
Brayden Maynard 26
Jack Steele 26
Ed Vickers-Willis 26
Mitch McGovern 26

Clean hands test (score out of 30)
Nathan Drummond 26
Paddy Brophy 26
Reece McKenzie 26
Tyler Keitel 26
Dougal Howard 26
Michael Mattingly 25
Brett Eddy 25
Caleb Daniel 25
Jake Johansen 25
Jarrod Garlett 25
Brydan Hodgson 25
Marc Pittonet 25
Liam Dawson 25
Jack Cripps 25

Goalkicking test (score out of 30)
Dean Gore 30
Keenan Ramsey 30
Nathan Drummond 25
Paddy Brophy 25
Michael Mattingly 25
Liam Dawson 25
Cory Gregson 25
Aidan Anderson 25
Dougal Howard 24
Jarrod Garlett 24
Jack Cripps 24
Bailey Dale 24
Declan Hamilton 24

20 metre sprint results (sec)
Marvin Baynham 2.81
Oleg Markov 2.87
Jarrod Pickett 2.87
Reece McKenzie 2.87
Connor Menadue 2.88
Nakia Cockatoo 2.90
Ed Langdon 2.92
Paddy Brophy 2.93
Conor McKenna 2.93
Nathan Drummond 2.93

Agility results (sec)
Clem Smith 8.09
Daniel McKenzie 8.10
Conor McKenna 8.12
Jarrod Pickett 8.13
Teia Miles 8.27
Lukas Webb 8.28
Josh McGuinness 8.33
Billy Stretch 8.33
Kyle Langford 8.36
Jack Lonie 8.37

Repeat sprint results (sec)
Nakia Cockatoo 23.93
Nathan Drummond 23.95
Daniel Nielson 23.99
Daniel McKenzie 24.02
Ed Langdon 24.06
Oleg Markov 24.14
Connor Menadue 24.14
Conor McKenna 24.16
Matthew Goodyear 24.49
Jack Hiscox 24.36

Standing vertical jump (cm)
Marvin Baynham 88
Jarrod Garlett 76
Nathan Drummond 76
Christian Petracca 74
Nakia Cockatoo 73
James Rose 73
Dean Gore 72
Nicholas Coughlan 72
Evan Bruinsma 72
Reece McKenzie 72
Tom Read 72

Running vertical jump (cm)
Evan Bruinsma 97
Marvin Baynham 95
Daniel McKenzie 94
Billy Gowers 93
Nathan Drummond 90
Nakia Cockatoo 89
Matthew Uebergang 87
Mitch McGovern 87
James Rose 87
Matthew Hammelmann 87
Geez u would have to take cocky on some of those numbers can the kid play?
 
Checked his highlights reel...kid is a very clean player...always moving...and looks to move the ball on at all times...big kick...
Needs to work on kicking disposal...on building his frame...definitely not an in and under...solid player all the same..
Would not be unhappy if we picked him...reminds me of Lennon...
 
Could be going a bit far here but a little bit of Hannerbry about him perhaps. Underage. Not a big kid at this stage but doesn't hold back. Looks smooth on the left and really lively feet. Highlights reel does make his kicking look suspect but all the press is he is a very good kick of the ball. Could go alright off of the HBF before taking ownership of the opposite wing to Brando. Obviously delivery into the forward 50 is an area we can improve.
 

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Have been told that Pickett had the worse 3km time trial. Though it might have just been the worst out of his group.

If it was last overall then hopefully he slides into the 20's and we can downgrade our pick for a number of picks or upgrade one of our later picks. As someone's running capacity is probably one of the easiest things to improve in an AFL environment. (or with the help of Miles's running coach....:p;))
 
My worry about Drummond is that he's an athlete first and a footballer second. I don't think he gets that much of the ball and his kicking can be iffy at times. I'd be happy to take him in the second round, but that's it. He reminds me of an unrefined Heath Shaw in his dash.
 
My worry about Drummond is that he's an athlete first and a footballer second. I don't think he gets that much of the ball and his kicking can be iffy at times. I'd be happy to take him in the second round, but that's it. He reminds me of an unrefined Heath Shaw in his dash.
11 TAC Cup games
16.2 kicks
12 handballs
28.2 disposals
6.5 handball recieves
6.6 marks
6.5 tackles
Granted he was an overaged kid in the TAC Cup but they are still pretty decent numbers.

3 VFL Games as 23rd man with Richmond
4.6 kicks
4.6 handballs
9.2 disposals
2.3 handballs recieves
3.3 marks
2.6 tackles
Being 23rd man he wouldn't have got that much game time still not bad numbers considering.
 
He's had a few quiet games mixed in with those though, it's an issue of consistency, let's not forget that Drummond has been playing midfield which pumps up his numbers, it also exposes his kicking skills and decision making more. As a defender he didn't rack up the stats as much, and his kicking improved.
 
I don't understand how a lot of people think Drummond will go so low. Seems like he dominated at TAC level and at the combine?
 
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