List Mgmt. 2014 Draft Discussion

[JTCWBFC]

Agreed, JTCWBFC Others have said he uses his bulk to take marks, but that highlight video suggested he was a very good judge of the ball in the air. Good kick at goal and quick in a straight line, too. Would have little issue with the club using pick 26 on him. In fact, I'd welcome it. If we can land two of Mckenzie, Mcdonald or Menadue with our two first picks, we'd have covered two massive needs on our list.

I would be absolutely stoked if we got McDonald and McKenzie at 26 and 27. Would really help to balance out our list.

Happy to then target pace and good ball users with the rest of our picks.

 

[go you pups]

I would be absolutely stoked if we got McDonald and McKenzie at 26 and 27. Would really help to balance out our list.

Happy to then target pace and good ball users with the rest of our picks.

Won't get McKenzie if the St Kilda board has their way with their recruiters, they'll get him at 21/22

 

[fronkalicious]

I would be absolutely stoked if we got McDonald and McKenzie at 26 and 27. Would really help to balance out our list.

Happy to then target pace and good ball users with the rest of our picks.

We need to draft a young key forward prospect as well IMO. Sam bevan from WA is one we're looking at with our last pick.

 

[GrahamSmith]

Who should we draft with picks 26, 27:
Connor Blakely, Clem Smith, Connor Menadue, Nakia Cockatoo or Oscar McDonald?

 

[GrahamSmith]

Who should we draft with picks 26, 27:
Connor Blakely, Clem Smith, Connor Menadue, Nakia Cockatoo or Oscar McDonald?

 

[TempleKelvington]

I haven't been on for a week. What have I missed?

Well I have posted some GOLD.

 

[JTCWBFC]

We need to draft a young key forward prospect as well IMO. Sam bevan from WA is one we're looking at with our last pick.

I don't know much about him but wouldn't be unhappy with another young kpf. I'm also assuming we get foster in the rookie draft.


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[doggies ftw]

What sort of player is Bevan? Athletic second tall type correct?

 

[fronkalicious]

I'd also be happy with (holds breath)........another ball winning mid. Bear with me:

- maybe smith can't get back to his best
- the jury is still out on how good Wallis is/will be
- bonti has every attribute to be a beast of a CHF. Maybe that's where he ends up
- maybe stringer never develops a tank to play meaningful midfield minutes

Macrae and hrovat are better linking on the outside. Hunter as well.

As long as said midfielder has some burst speed and uses the ball well, I'm all for it. Who might suit?? Gore?

 

[Dale4captain]

I'd also be happy with (holds breath)........another ball winning mid. Bear with me:

- maybe smith can't get back to his best
- the jury is still out on how good Wallis is/will be
- bonti has every attribute to be a beast of a CHF. Maybe that's where he ends up
- maybe stringer never develops a tank to play meaningful midfield minutes

Macrae and hrovat are better linking on the outside. Hunter as well.

As long as said midfielder has some burst speed and uses the ball well, I'm all for it. Who might suit?? Gore?

Maynard comes to mind

 

[fronkalicious]

We really need jong to get his tank together and take a massive step this year. Need that power and speed around the footy with griffen gone. Midfield is pretty one dimensional otherwise.

 

[doggies ftw]

I'd also be happy with (holds breath)........another ball winning mid. Bear with me:

- maybe smith can't get back to his best
- the jury is still out on how good Wallis is/will be
- bonti has every attribute to be a beast of a CHF. Maybe that's where he ends up
- maybe stringer never develops a tank to play meaningful midfield minutes

Macrae and hrovat are better linking on the outside. Hunter as well.

As long as said midfielder has some burst speed and uses the ball well, I'm all for it. Who might suit?? Gore?

Still don't think it's a huge need, Hrovat and Koby should spend more time in the guts, Libba can only get better, still very confident in Wally and Clay making it, Macraes inside game will keep developing, Pruddens probably just as good of an unknown prospect as anyone available, Jong should become a beast inside the contest, even Dahl, Honey and Hunter will spend time in there and are all quite good ball winners. So I think we're fine in that regard as long as we share the load around a bit more.

But like you said if they've got a bit of pace and really nice skills I'd be okay with it

 

[doggies ftw]

I'd also be happy with (holds breath)........another ball winning mid. Bear with me:

- maybe smith can't get back to his best
- the jury is still out on how good Wallis is/will be
- bonti has every attribute to be a beast of a CHF. Maybe that's where he ends up
- maybe stringer never develops a tank to play meaningful midfield minutes

Macrae and hrovat are better linking on the outside. Hunter as well.

As long as said midfielder has some burst speed and uses the ball well, I'm all for it. Who might suit?? Gore?

Still don't think it's a huge need, Hrovat and Koby should spend more time in the guts, Libba can only get better, still very confident in Wally and Clay making it, Macraes inside game will keep developing, Pruddens probably just as good of an unknown prospect as anyone available, Jong should become a beast inside the contest, even Dahl, Honey and Hunter will spend time in there and are all quite good ball winners. So I think we're fine in that regard as long as we share the load around a bit more.

But like you said if they've got a bit of pace and really nice skills I'd be okay with it

 

[Wizard17]

Maynard is the one that comes to mind but he might be taken before our first two picks. Not many other fast inside types they are mostly smaller one dimensional types can think of little versatile sorts.

Go look look at Billy Evans. I think there's a fair amount of vision of him around really big (189cm 87kg), kicks goals and could probably have a playing weight in the 90's given his frame but is a bit raw. Looks like a player our recruiters like if we are looking for depth in the middle.

I'd also be happy with (holds breath)........another ball winning mid. Bear with me:

- maybe smith can't get back to his best
- the jury is still out on how good Wallis is/will be
- bonti has every attribute to be a beast of a CHF. Maybe that's where he ends up
- maybe stringer never develops a tank to play meaningful midfield minutes

Macrae and hrovat are better linking on the outside. Hunter as well.

As long as said midfielder has some burst speed and uses the ball well, I'm all for it. Who might suit?? Gore?

 

[stefoid]

I'd also be happy with (holds breath)........another ball winning mid. Bear with me:

- maybe smith can't get back to his best
- the jury is still out on how good Wallis is/will be
- bonti has every attribute to be a beast of a CHF. Maybe that's where he ends up
- maybe stringer never develops a tank to play meaningful midfield minutes

Macrae and hrovat are better linking on the outside. Hunter as well.

As long as said midfielder has some burst speed and uses the ball well, I'm all for it. Who might suit?? Gore?

Bonts has terrible speed off the mark which you would think would rule him out of a permanent forward position.

Would not be adverse to an 'inside/outside' mid, but would prefer not another 'slow inside beast who cant run fast or kick'. We have enough handball happy harrys as it is, and nobody running past for them to handball to so it just goes around in circles. We have just lost Grif and Coons!!!

Having said that, whoever is most good at playing footy will do me for all our picks this year, and hopefully some of those guys will be potential key positions at either end and/or can run and kick.

 

[igloo dweller]

I'd also be happy with (holds breath)........another ball winning mid. Bear with me:

- maybe smith can't get back to his best
- the jury is still out on how good Wallis is/will be
- bonti has every attribute to be a beast of a CHF. Maybe that's where he ends up
- maybe stringer never develops a tank to play meaningful midfield minutes

Macrae and hrovat are better linking on the outside. Hunter as well.

As long as said midfielder has some burst speed and uses the ball well, I'm all for it. Who might suit?? Gore?

while i agree that we're a bit thin, we're better covered for inside mids than other areas.

guys who play inside:
libba. nuff said
smith. reaching his potential after a 2nd ACL is questionable.
koby stevens. is limited but dependable.
boyd. averaged 26 disposals this season. side needs leadership.
wallis. don't think he gets enough kudos for how good he already is
prudden. has potential if his ankle gets better, which should only be a week away

4 pure inside mids, 2 inside mids in rehab. jong, bonti, stringer able to rotate through in a time of need.

would prefer to add 'decision making / ball use' to our midfield before 'ball winning'.

 

[JTCWBFC]

Bonts has terrible speed off the mark which you would think would rule him out of a permanent forward position.

Would not be adverse to an 'inside/outside' mid, but would prefer not another 'slow inside beast who cant run fast or kick'. We have enough handball happy harrys as it is, and nobody running past for them to handball to so it just goes around in circles. We have just lost Grif and Coons!!!

Having said that, whoever is most good at playing footy will do me for all our picks this year, and hopefully some of those guys will be potential key positions at either end and/or can run and kick.

Bonts might not be quick off the mark but he is smart as hell and can get a huge advantage by correctly timing his leads. He is also great at using his body one on one already so with more size I think he will become a very dangerous forward, however still like him running through the midfield at least half the time.



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[TBOW]

If Bonts played forward he would be a Reiwoldt style endurance forward.

You don't need to be quick off the mark when you have just dragged your opponent 800 metres up & down the wing repeat leading.

The thing that makes Riewoldt so great is the way he can still clunk marks when his whole body is exhausted.

Yet to be seen if Bonts has that ability, or the natural forward instincts, but I wouldn't put anything past him.

 

[goodcop badcop]

Bonts has terrible speed off the mark which you would think would rule him out of a permanent forward position.

Would not be adverse to an 'inside/outside' mid, but would prefer not another 'slow inside beast who cant run fast or kick'. We have enough handball happy harrys as it is, and nobody running past for them to handball to so it just goes around in circles. We have just lost Grif and Coons!!!

Having said that, whoever is most good at playing footy will do me for all our picks this year, and hopefully some of those guys will be potential key positions at either end and/or can run and kick.

You don't necessarily need to be quick off the mark to play across CHF. Tom Lynch (Gold Coast) tested just as badly off the mark as Bonts and he's one of the best forward prospects going around.

 

[Pannalstaroz]

I'd also be happy with (holds breath)........another ball winning mid. Bear with me:

- maybe smith can't get back to his best
- the jury is still out on how good Wallis is/will be
- bonti has every attribute to be a beast of a CHF. Maybe that's where he ends up
- maybe stringer never develops a tank to play meaningful midfield minutes

Macrae and hrovat are better linking on the outside. Hunter as well.

As long as said midfielder has some burst speed and uses the ball well, I'm all for it. Who might suit?? Gore?

Agree with everything except Hrovat. He's a very natural inside mid.

 

[Zgope1]

Bonts is incredible at losing opponents through hard and smart running. He's good enough to take advantage too. Not too dissimilar to Roughead tbh except bonts had an in play boys from the start that roughy has worked at over years.

One of the big things I noticed this year was that bonts was a massive accumulator of shots on goal. I'd guess he'd have the highest average at the club

 

[goodcop badcop]

I can understand why we would recruit a mature aged inside mid as insurance (rookie list), but I'm not a fan of drafting another young inside mid unless he has the versatility to play in a few other positions like Blakely for example. We have too many other areas which need filling.

 

[stefoid]

Bonts will kick more goals from the midfield than he will as a permanent forward.

Lets hear no more talk of this - hes a mid, and thats where Im playing him, OK?

Ok.

 

[Dogsman16]

Agree with most here unless a genuine slider landed at our lap at 26 who also had good pace and good skills then I am strongly against using any of our top 50 picks on a inside mid. It could be argued that presently we have almost a quarter of our list as inside midfielders.
Libba, Wallis, Hrovat, Boyd, Stevens, Jong, Prudden, Smith,
Not mention that several here want both Bontempelli and Stringer in the guts too which I am loathe to do so thats about 10. Just Bonts should be in the middle Stringer up forward.
I also want Crameri to play on occasions as an inside mid to help fill the void of Griffen and it would also allow us to try a genuine 3 prong tall forward line of Roberts, Boyd and Stringer.

With our 6 top 50 picks ( I include Cordy in that) we need to have a look at the following.
2 outside runners (Menadue and Drummond)
3 KPP's (McDonald, Hammelman/Crisp/Cordy)
1 small forward (McLean/Daniel) to push Hunter and Hrovat into the middle more often.

 

[True Dog]

I'd also be happy with (holds breath)........another ball winning mid. Bear with me:

- maybe smith can't get back to his best
- the jury is still out on how good Wallis is/will be
- bonti has every attribute to be a beast of a CHF. Maybe that's where he ends up
- maybe stringer never develops a tank to play meaningful midfield minutes

Macrae and hrovat are better linking on the outside. Hunter as well.

As long as said midfielder has some burst speed and uses the ball well, I'm all for it. Who might suit?? Gore?

Two words Fronky......Josh Prudden