List Mgmt. 2014 Draft Discussion

[Doggies7]

Yeah, It's a decent point. Especially now Stevens is our only indigenous player as well, so there isn't that support we might have had with Goodes and Jones being around too. However, it's not like he'd have the go home factor of other interstate boys. This article outlines the many and varied places he's lived in throughout his life: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-17/watsons-test-of-character. He was a boarder for the majority of his school days and he seems to have been comfortable moving to what would be alienating places. He probably wouldn't have the go home factor simply because he probably doesn't have one precise part of WA that he would call his home. I must admit bias, I've met the guy on the set of the 'War That Changed Us'. His comfortable and easy going nature would hold him in good stead to adjust to a new place and make friends.

Hamling is part indigenous too from Broome. So him and Stevens with hopefully Goodes still in a welfare role.

 

[Zgope1]

Get on the gore train

i love him. ticks the boxes for a junior. don't really understand how Freeman went top 10 last year and Gore is being talked about so far back.

you reckon we like him Fronk?

 

[goodcop badcop]

...long way from 20 to 26 though

If this scenario did happen, we would have to go through 4 picks with Jack Steele already taken. It would be nice if one is available, but even if it doesn't I'd still be happy with the names available. Menadue and Maynard would probably be available in this situation and I'd be quite happy with that.

i love him. ticks the boxes for a junior. don't really understand how Freeman went top 10 last year and Gore is being talked about so far back.

you reckon we like him Fronk?

Freeman tested unbelievably and uses it in game. He's very, very fast. Whilst Gore tested well, he doesn't come close to Freeman's athleticism (not many do) and won't ever be able to break open the game like Freeman can. That's why Freeman went top 10.

I'd still be fine with Gore at 26/27, but I'd much rather it be at pick 39.

 

[Zgope1]

If this scenario did happen, we would have to go through 4 picks with Jack Steele already taken. It would be nice if one is available, but even if it doesn't I'd still be happy with the names available. Menadue and Maynard would probably be available in this situation and I'd be quite happy with that.



Freeman tested unbelievably and uses it in game. He's very, very fast. Whilst Gore tested well, he doesn't come close to Freeman's athleticism (not many do) and won't ever be able to break open the game like Freeman can. That's why Freeman went top 10.

I'd still be fine with Gore at 26/27, but I'd much rather it be at pick 39.

you're right that Freeman tested really well. A mix of endurance and elite speed does prick up the recruiters' interest but gee he's also shown he can butcher the footy. Shocking, shocking kick imo.

Gore, while not as quick, has a great burst and a much better natural kick. Has played well with men this year too which gets forgotten about always.

 

[fronkalicious]

i love him. ticks the boxes for a junior. don't really understand how Freeman went top 10 last year and Gore is being talked about so far back.

you reckon we like him Fronk?

We've met with him a couple of times, but we've met with plenty of kids a few times so doesn't mean too much I wouldn't have thought.

 

[Iluvdalhouse]

you're right that Freeman tested really well. A mix of endurance and elite speed does prick up the recruiters' interest but gee he's also shown he can butcher the footy. Shocking, shocking kick imo.

Gore, while not as quick, has a great burst and a much better natural kick. Has played well with men this year too which gets forgotten about always.

I have seen a lot from both and the one thing everyone was worried about with Freedman was his kicking -Gore will be a better player cant kick cant play

 

[goodcop badcop]

you're right that Freeman tested really well. A mix of endurance and elite speed does prick up the recruiters' interest but gee he's also shown he can butcher the footy. Shocking, shocking kick imo.

Gore, while not as quick, has a great burst and a much better natural kick. Has played well with men this year too which gets forgotten about always.

Fair enough. I agree he's not a great kick, but I think he can at least get up to the level of a Jack Steven or Clay Smith which is all he needs. Half his trouble IMO, is that he plays with too much intensity. Once he slows down and plays within his limitations, then I think he'll be fine.

 

[JTCWBFC]

Is there any chance Lever is a big slider due to his knee, or would most here say he is a top 10/15 lock?

 

[Dogsman16]

Is there any chance Lever is a big slider due to his knee, or would most here say he is a top 10/15 lock?

He won't be going past the crows at 14. Absolutely no chance!

 

[Iluvdalhouse]

Lets look at this in a buisness case.. inns and outs and good or bad
1.Boyd-Jones (Massive win)
2.Menadue-Cooney (massive win pace to burn and Coons is close to the end good move)
3.McKenzie-Higgins (win Higgins injury prone this kid is a JET)
4.Gore-Tutt - (Biggest win out of this draft for us Gore has a heart)
5.Maynard-Young-Win Maynard will be great player and has a body ready to go now!
6.Cordy-Goodes-(Win Cordy has huge upside)
7.Biggs-Pearce (Win comes from a good club and has pace that Pearce hasnt)
8.Hamling -Griffen (Lose lose lose
9.Jong-Gia-(Win could be anything an animal and has pace)
10.Redpath-(All ready forgoton his name 12 and injured all the time WIN WIN)

We have done the sweep out needed now we need to go into teach mode right now!!!

Luke Beveridge (head coach)
Garry Ayres (football manager)
Brad Sewell (midfield coach)
Goodes (pups -new player talent manager)
Scott West (back line coach)
Brett Montgomery (forward line couch)

Bring them in now and lets get this club to the top NOW

 

[Iluvdalhouse]

Lets look at this in a buisness case.. inns and outs and good or bad
1.Boyd-Jones (Massive win)
2.Menadue-Cooney (massive win pace to burn and Coons is close to the end good move)
3.McKenzie-Higgins (win Higgins injury prone this kid is a JET)
4.Gore-Tutt - (Biggest win out of this draft for us Gore has a heart)
5.Maynard-Young-Win Maynard will be great player and has a body ready to go now!
6.Cordy-Goodes-(Win Cordy has huge upside)
7.Biggs-Pearce (Win comes from a good club and has pace that Pearce hasnt)
8.Hamling -Griffen (Lose lose lose
9.Jong-Gia-(Win could be anything an animal and has pace)
10.Redpath-(All ready forgoton his name 12 and injured all the time WIN WIN)

We have done the sweep out needed now we need to go into teach mode right now!!!

Luke Beveridge (head coach)
Garry Ayres (football manager)
Brad Sewell (midfield coach)
Goodes (pups -new player talent manager)
Scott West (back line coach)
Brett Montgomery (forward line couch)

Bring them in now and lets get this club to the top NOW

Woops missed the Rookie

Jaydn Foster -Power forward
Tom Read-203cm Ruckman
Fogarty-played last year in vfl
Tom Faul-Could be anything look at this http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-09-15/draft-prospect-tom-faul

 

[fronkalicious]

Man Touk Miller reminds me a lot of Hrovat. Fair to say theyre similar players?? I understand we're stacked with smallish mid/forwards (Rat, Honey, Hunter, JJ), but he looks like he might be able to get on the outside as well. Looks a nice talent if he's still there at our picks in the 40s.

 

[Gmod23]

Man Touk Miller reminds me a lot of Hrovat. Fair to say theyre similar players?? I understand we're stacked with smallish mid/forwards (Rat, Honey, Hunter, JJ), but he looks like he might be able to get on the outside as well. Looks a nice talent if he's still there at our picks in the 40s.

Think touk would struggle to get a game at his best position. Rather a project ruck or outside runner.

 

[BoydOHboyd]

Man Touk Miller reminds me a lot of Hrovat. Fair to say theyre similar players?? I understand we're stacked with smallish mid/forwards (Rat, Honey, Hunter, JJ), but he looks like he might be able to get on the outside as well. Looks a nice talent if he's still there at our picks in the 40s.

Vic Metro captain too. Think Hrovat was capitano of Metro as well?

 

[BoydOHboyd]

can't put my finger on it but for some reason I don't think I'm sold on Oscar McDonald at 26/27, not sure why. He's been hyped up a fair bit and I feel like he cuold almost be available at 39. Thoughts?

 

[fronkalicious]

Vic Metro captain too. Think Hrovat was capitano of Metro as well?

Could he transition into more of an outside runner?? Looks to have good power/acceleration and a nice leg.

 

[Dogsman16]

can't put my finger on it but for some reason I don't think I'm sold on Oscar McDonald at 26/27, not sure why. He's been hyped up a fair bit and I feel like he cuold almost be available at 39. Thoughts?

Don't think he will be at 39 at all and in saying that I want to mids with pace and skills at both 26 and 27 virtually to replace the roles of cooney and griffen. I am happy with the 6 190cm + KPD's we have on our list and we can always trade one in like we planned for lonergan.

 

[BoydOHboyd]

Don't think he will be at 39 at all and in saying that I want to mids with pace and skills at both 26 and 27 virtually to replace the roles of cooney and griffen. I am happy with the 6 190cm + KPD's we have on our list and we can always trade one in like we planned for lonergan.

Yeh it'd be touch and go 39 for McDonald, just think 27 is a bit of a reach for him. Would love to see us grab two sliding midfielders, Ellis or Blakely + Garlett or Menadue or something like that? Be laughing if we got two of those.

 

[Aldo]

Is there any chance Lever is a big slider due to his knee, or would most here say he is a top 10/15 lock?

I'm the biggest Lever fan and was gutted when we lost pick 6 and any chance to pick him up. I almost hope he tweaks the knee a little which makes him slide all the way to us, but the chances of him going outside of the first round is someowhere between 0.01% and no chance. We can dream though.

Everything I'm hearing is that Melbourne are going to overlook McCartin and take Lever at 3. Means we wouldn't have got him at pick 6 anyway.

 

[Nath09]

Lets look at this in a buisness case.. inns and outs and good or bad
1.Boyd-Jones (Massive win)
2.Menadue-Cooney (massive win pace to burn and Coons is close to the end good move)
3.McKenzie-Higgins (win Higgins injury prone this kid is a JET)
4.Gore-Tutt - (Biggest win out of this draft for us Gore has a heart)
5.Maynard-Young-Win Maynard will be great player and has a body ready to go now!
6.Cordy-Goodes-(Win Cordy has huge upside)
7.Biggs-Pearce (Win comes from a good club and has pace that Pearce hasnt)
8.Hamling -Griffen (Lose lose lose
9.Jong-Gia-(Win could be anything an animal and has pace)
10.Redpath-(All ready forgoton his name 12 and injured all the time WIN WIN)

We have done the sweep out needed now we need to go into teach mode right now!!!

Luke Beveridge (head coach)
Garry Ayres (football manager)
Brad Sewell (midfield coach)
Goodes (pups -new player talent manager)
Scott West (back line coach)
Brett Montgomery (forward line couch)

Bring them in now and lets get this club to the top NOW

Love the spirit and enthusiasm but lets not go declaring players who are yet to play a game for our club as wins. Let's all take heed of the Scott Clayton thread in which Skipper and Wiggins were both declared future champions of the game.

 

[Dav1d]

We've met with him a couple of times, but we've met with plenty of kids a few times so doesn't mean too much I wouldn't have thought.

it would make sense,we've been trying to grab some big fast players in the past few drafts but keep getting beat to it

Vic Metro captain too. Think Hrovat was capitano of Metro as well?

Hrovat was the vice captain, Captained the Northern Knights
Vlaustin was the captain of metro and the vice captain of the northern knights

 

[Dav1d]

As for getting McDonald at 39, I don't think it would happen because
other teams need to add KPDs to their squad to, even if they're just stock piling for the future

the players I hope we take as late KPDs, are Sean McLaren & Dougal Howard
especially if we miss out on McDonald earlier, because he might go even before our first second round pick

if a club really wants a stopping KPD with a bit of extra height

 

[Aldo]

Does anyone else reckon Dean Gore looks a bit like a red-headed Koby?

 

[Dav1d]

Does anyone else reckon Dean Gore looks a bit like a red-headed Koby?

that is what I thought when I first saw his picture

we do need a red headed player though

 

[VitalDread]

Every year, all i ask is for one irish player
Thats all