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Who would you like us to select with our first round pick right now? (Wright & Durdin excluded)


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Lets get this guy:

REASONING: You cant have too many short people or outside players in your team, and at his height and weight, this guy is going to be pure outside at AFL level. But he is 5cm shorter than Brent Harvey.

BUT - Too many short people and outside players isnt a problem we currently have - quite the opposite: we are crying out for zippy outside mids who can spread, receive, carry and kick the ball. Those are Caleb's strengths. Players described as making good decisions, good disposal and good under pressure are where its at, as far as im concerned.

As they say, if he was 4 inches taller he would be top 10, such is his ability to play football good.

I think given our current midfield makeup of slowish guys who are strong inside, someone with Calebs strengths compliments them very nicely indeed and I have no problem with seeing him as best available (for us) in the 2nd round.

32. Caleb Daniel (SA – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 167cm, Weight: 66kg, DOB: 07/07/1996
Recruited from: South Adelaide
Draft range: Late-rookie
Best position/role: Rotational forward/midfielder.
Strengths:
Disposal efficiency – Through the U18 Championships from his three games Daniel had a rare disposal efficiency of over 90% which is staggering given he averaged 20 disposals per game over three games and his disposal efficiency at SANFL League level similarly has been outstanding.
Footskills – By foot Daniel can do it all. He is the most efficient kicking midfielder/forward you will ever see but then he is also a very damaging kick. He is the best kick to a target in this draft as someone who over short and medium distances particularly seems to just about never miss a target. He also has penetration out to 50m which as required he can use. He executes to targets perfectly both when in space on the outside or under pressure in congestion. He is a terrific playmaker in that he consistently finds the inside 50 targets or targets around the ground better positioned to generate meaningful offensive drives. He is also a capable finisher when within range from goal, he can finish with drop punts, snaps or and kick required depending on the circumstance and is a reliable converter both from field kicks and set shots. When within range from goal he consistently displays a real unselfishness whereby if he is in a low percentage position and unlikely to kick the goal he will look to find a target in better position to finish for the goal.
Vision – Daniel has excellent vision and consistently finds the best targets up the field or around the ground, he consistently lowers his eyes and because of it consistently finds the highest percentage targets around the ground and inside 50.
Decision making ability – With ball in hand Daniel just about never makes a mistake, consistently identifying the highest percentage option and hitting them by hand and foot. He will rarely kick it long to a contest or just kick it long without purpose if it is not to a target, he will generally look to with every touch identify and find the best targets around the ground.
Ability to execute under pressure – Daniel regardless of how much pressure he is under by hand and foot continues to execute his skills and hit his targets and has a real cleanness with everything he does. He just has a real composure with ball in hand, seemingly never fumbling or looking rushed. It is not even using any special evasive tricks in traffic; he just quickly identifies a good option and executes his skill to a target, no dramas. He also in general play with ball in hand will continue running, draw some opposition tacklers then last second deliver a handball out to a target which I also really like, with his timing spot on.
Endurance – Daniel out on the field is constantly on the move and never seems to stop. He is constantly running and working his man over to get into space on the outside and in traffic he is constantly on the move and buzzing around. At the draft combine he scored an elite 16.1 so this should not come as a surprise.
Inside/outside balance – Daniel to his game has a nice inside/outside balance. He is not a dominant contested ball winner and will be an outside player at the next level but he can certainly win his own ball and has good contested ball winning numbers and uses the ball particularly well in congestion but then on the outside he also has the work rate to work into space and find lots of the footy and use his run and use the ball efficiently so he is the complete package.
Weaknesses:
Small – At 167cm Daniel is by AFL standards in the extreme category of small but in saying that Brent Harvey is the same height and has no issues so while ideally he would be 15cm or 20cm taller, he still even at 167cm has a real chance to make it, particularly given his ability with ball in hand.
Pace – Daniel because he is always on the move looks quick and he can at times run around guys and take on the game with some run and carry, but he is not all that explosive which as an extreme small will be a drawback given he is more an outside type.
Not suited as a crumbing forward – Daniel can do some of the things crumbing forwards can do, he finishes well around goal, can convert from his set shots, hit targets in better positions to finish and at ground level he is terrific and clean but it is not a role I see him or being overly dominant in at AFL level with no one thing he can do deep in the front half that makes him suited to playing a crumbing forward role. Daniel is overall more a high motor guy who is better suited up the ground finding targets and accumulating rather than being locked into playing permanently in the front half.
What I expect will improve:
I do not see Daniel’s game changing all that much other than adjusting to the AFL level game. He will continue to refine what he does but in the most part what you see is what you get.
Who he can become?
Daniel has the feel of a poor man’s Brent Harvey as a slightly less quick and less dominant version.
When will he be ready to play?
Daniel has the ability to play from season one, and I would be inclined to say as soon as round one depending on whether the opportunity is there. He is, short and small as he is an immediate player.
How to best utilise him?
Daniel is best utilised on a forward flank, rotating up onto a wing.
Interpretation of his numbers:
Daniel’s numbers at SANFL League level and through the U18 Championships have been outstanding. His ability to accumulate both the inside and outside ball are strong. His tackling numbers are fine. His disposal efficiency is through the roof, with a disposal efficiency of above 90% through his three games during the U18 Championships. He hits the scoreboard at a good rate. All the signs suggest that he can play from season one at AFL level and that he the size of the bodies will not be a problem given he has already proven he can play against men at SANFL League level and with his strengths skill and endurance related, his strengths will at the next level remain strengths.
 
Lets get this guy:

REASONING: You cant have too many short people or outside players in your team, and at his height and weight, this guy is going to be pure outside at AFL level. But he is 5cm shorter than Brent Harvey.

BUT - Too many short people and outside players isnt a problem we currently have - quite the opposite: we are crying out for zippy outside mids who can spread, receive, carry and kick the ball. Those are Caleb's strengths. Players described as making good decisions, good disposal and good under pressure are where its at, as far as im concerned.

As they say, if he was 4 inches taller he would be top 10, such is his ability to play football good.

I think given our current midfield makeup of slowish guys who are strong inside, someone with Calebs strengths compliments them very nicely indeed and I have no problem with seeing him as best available (for us) in the 2nd round.

32. Caleb Daniel (SA – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 167cm, Weight: 66kg, DOB: 07/07/1996
Recruited from: South Adelaide
Draft range: Late-rookie
Best position/role: Rotational forward/midfielder.
Strengths:
Disposal efficiency – Through the U18 Championships from his three games Daniel had a rare disposal efficiency of over 90% which is staggering given he averaged 20 disposals per game over three games and his disposal efficiency at SANFL League level similarly has been outstanding.
Footskills – By foot Daniel can do it all. He is the most efficient kicking midfielder/forward you will ever see but then he is also a very damaging kick. He is the best kick to a target in this draft as someone who over short and medium distances particularly seems to just about never miss a target. He also has penetration out to 50m which as required he can use. He executes to targets perfectly both when in space on the outside or under pressure in congestion. He is a terrific playmaker in that he consistently finds the inside 50 targets or targets around the ground better positioned to generate meaningful offensive drives. He is also a capable finisher when within range from goal, he can finish with drop punts, snaps or and kick required depending on the circumstance and is a reliable converter both from field kicks and set shots. When within range from goal he consistently displays a real unselfishness whereby if he is in a low percentage position and unlikely to kick the goal he will look to find a target in better position to finish for the goal.
Vision – Daniel has excellent vision and consistently finds the best targets up the field or around the ground, he consistently lowers his eyes and because of it consistently finds the highest percentage targets around the ground and inside 50.
Decision making ability – With ball in hand Daniel just about never makes a mistake, consistently identifying the highest percentage option and hitting them by hand and foot. He will rarely kick it long to a contest or just kick it long without purpose if it is not to a target, he will generally look to with every touch identify and find the best targets around the ground.
Ability to execute under pressure – Daniel regardless of how much pressure he is under by hand and foot continues to execute his skills and hit his targets and has a real cleanness with everything he does. He just has a real composure with ball in hand, seemingly never fumbling or looking rushed. It is not even using any special evasive tricks in traffic; he just quickly identifies a good option and executes his skill to a target, no dramas. He also in general play with ball in hand will continue running, draw some opposition tacklers then last second deliver a handball out to a target which I also really like, with his timing spot on.
Endurance – Daniel out on the field is constantly on the move and never seems to stop. He is constantly running and working his man over to get into space on the outside and in traffic he is constantly on the move and buzzing around. At the draft combine he scored an elite 16.1 so this should not come as a surprise.
Inside/outside balance – Daniel to his game has a nice inside/outside balance. He is not a dominant contested ball winner and will be an outside player at the next level but he can certainly win his own ball and has good contested ball winning numbers and uses the ball particularly well in congestion but then on the outside he also has the work rate to work into space and find lots of the footy and use his run and use the ball efficiently so he is the complete package.
Weaknesses:
Small – At 167cm Daniel is by AFL standards in the extreme category of small but in saying that Brent Harvey is the same height and has no issues so while ideally he would be 15cm or 20cm taller, he still even at 167cm has a real chance to make it, particularly given his ability with ball in hand.
Pace – Daniel because he is always on the move looks quick and he can at times run around guys and take on the game with some run and carry, but he is not all that explosive which as an extreme small will be a drawback given he is more an outside type.
Not suited as a crumbing forward – Daniel can do some of the things crumbing forwards can do, he finishes well around goal, can convert from his set shots, hit targets in better positions to finish and at ground level he is terrific and clean but it is not a role I see him or being overly dominant in at AFL level with no one thing he can do deep in the front half that makes him suited to playing a crumbing forward role. Daniel is overall more a high motor guy who is better suited up the ground finding targets and accumulating rather than being locked into playing permanently in the front half.
What I expect will improve:
I do not see Daniel’s game changing all that much other than adjusting to the AFL level game. He will continue to refine what he does but in the most part what you see is what you get.
Who he can become?
Daniel has the feel of a poor man’s Brent Harvey as a slightly less quick and less dominant version.
When will he be ready to play?
Daniel has the ability to play from season one, and I would be inclined to say as soon as round one depending on whether the opportunity is there. He is, short and small as he is an immediate player.
How to best utilise him?
Daniel is best utilised on a forward flank, rotating up onto a wing.
Interpretation of his numbers:
Daniel’s numbers at SANFL League level and through the U18 Championships have been outstanding. His ability to accumulate both the inside and outside ball are strong. His tackling numbers are fine. His disposal efficiency is through the roof, with a disposal efficiency of above 90% through his three games during the U18 Championships. He hits the scoreboard at a good rate. All the signs suggest that he can play from season one at AFL level and that he the size of the bodies will not be a problem given he has already proven he can play against men at SANFL League level and with his strengths skill and endurance related, his strengths will at the next level remain strengths.
Not sure about 26, but would definitely pick him at 39.
 
Lets get this guy:

REASONING: You cant have too many short people or outside players in your team, and at his height and weight, this guy is going to be pure outside at AFL level. But he is 5cm shorter than Brent Harvey.

BUT - Too many short people and outside players isnt a problem we currently have - quite the opposite: we are crying out for zippy outside mids who can spread, receive, carry and kick the ball. Those are Caleb's strengths. Players described as making good decisions, good disposal and good under pressure are where its at, as far as im concerned.

As they say, if he was 4 inches taller he would be top 10, such is his ability to play football good.

I think given our current midfield makeup of slowish guys who are strong inside, someone with Calebs strengths compliments them very nicely indeed and I have no problem with seeing him as best available (for us) in the 2nd round.

32. Caleb Daniel (SA – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 167cm, Weight: 66kg, DOB: 07/07/1996
Recruited from: South Adelaide
Draft range: Late-rookie
Best position/role: Rotational forward/midfielder.
Strengths:
Disposal efficiency – Through the U18 Championships from his three games Daniel had a rare disposal efficiency of over 90% which is staggering given he averaged 20 disposals per game over three games and his disposal efficiency at SANFL League level similarly has been outstanding.
Footskills – By foot Daniel can do it all. He is the most efficient kicking midfielder/forward you will ever see but then he is also a very damaging kick. He is the best kick to a target in this draft as someone who over short and medium distances particularly seems to just about never miss a target. He also has penetration out to 50m which as required he can use. He executes to targets perfectly both when in space on the outside or under pressure in congestion. He is a terrific playmaker in that he consistently finds the inside 50 targets or targets around the ground better positioned to generate meaningful offensive drives. He is also a capable finisher when within range from goal, he can finish with drop punts, snaps or and kick required depending on the circumstance and is a reliable converter both from field kicks and set shots. When within range from goal he consistently displays a real unselfishness whereby if he is in a low percentage position and unlikely to kick the goal he will look to find a target in better position to finish for the goal.
Vision – Daniel has excellent vision and consistently finds the best targets up the field or around the ground, he consistently lowers his eyes and because of it consistently finds the highest percentage targets around the ground and inside 50.
Decision making ability – With ball in hand Daniel just about never makes a mistake, consistently identifying the highest percentage option and hitting them by hand and foot. He will rarely kick it long to a contest or just kick it long without purpose if it is not to a target, he will generally look to with every touch identify and find the best targets around the ground.
Ability to execute under pressure – Daniel regardless of how much pressure he is under by hand and foot continues to execute his skills and hit his targets and has a real cleanness with everything he does. He just has a real composure with ball in hand, seemingly never fumbling or looking rushed. It is not even using any special evasive tricks in traffic; he just quickly identifies a good option and executes his skill to a target, no dramas. He also in general play with ball in hand will continue running, draw some opposition tacklers then last second deliver a handball out to a target which I also really like, with his timing spot on.
Endurance – Daniel out on the field is constantly on the move and never seems to stop. He is constantly running and working his man over to get into space on the outside and in traffic he is constantly on the move and buzzing around. At the draft combine he scored an elite 16.1 so this should not come as a surprise.
Inside/outside balance – Daniel to his game has a nice inside/outside balance. He is not a dominant contested ball winner and will be an outside player at the next level but he can certainly win his own ball and has good contested ball winning numbers and uses the ball particularly well in congestion but then on the outside he also has the work rate to work into space and find lots of the footy and use his run and use the ball efficiently so he is the complete package.
Weaknesses:
Small – At 167cm Daniel is by AFL standards in the extreme category of small but in saying that Brent Harvey is the same height and has no issues so while ideally he would be 15cm or 20cm taller, he still even at 167cm has a real chance to make it, particularly given his ability with ball in hand.
Pace – Daniel because he is always on the move looks quick and he can at times run around guys and take on the game with some run and carry, but he is not all that explosive which as an extreme small will be a drawback given he is more an outside type.
Not suited as a crumbing forward – Daniel can do some of the things crumbing forwards can do, he finishes well around goal, can convert from his set shots, hit targets in better positions to finish and at ground level he is terrific and clean but it is not a role I see him or being overly dominant in at AFL level with no one thing he can do deep in the front half that makes him suited to playing a crumbing forward role. Daniel is overall more a high motor guy who is better suited up the ground finding targets and accumulating rather than being locked into playing permanently in the front half.
What I expect will improve:
I do not see Daniel’s game changing all that much other than adjusting to the AFL level game. He will continue to refine what he does but in the most part what you see is what you get.
Who he can become?
Daniel has the feel of a poor man’s Brent Harvey as a slightly less quick and less dominant version.
When will he be ready to play?
Daniel has the ability to play from season one, and I would be inclined to say as soon as round one depending on whether the opportunity is there. He is, short and small as he is an immediate player.
How to best utilise him?
Daniel is best utilised on a forward flank, rotating up onto a wing.
Interpretation of his numbers:
Daniel’s numbers at SANFL League level and through the U18 Championships have been outstanding. His ability to accumulate both the inside and outside ball are strong. His tackling numbers are fine. His disposal efficiency is through the roof, with a disposal efficiency of above 90% through his three games during the U18 Championships. He hits the scoreboard at a good rate. All the signs suggest that he can play from season one at AFL level and that he the size of the bodies will not be a problem given he has already proven he can play against men at SANFL League level and with his strengths skill and endurance related, his strengths will at the next level remain strengths.
Not sure about 26, but would definitely pick him at 39.
 
It seems a bit unpopular, but I'm strongly against picking up Caleb Daniel. Why?

I believe you can have too many short people in the side. We were consistently out marked at AFL level and Daniel only makes this problem worse. He's a liability in the air.
Where's the upside going to come from? I have no doubt he will improve under an AFL environment, but how much? I can see a lot of guys in the draft going past him.
His size? There's a good reason why there's next to no player's below the 170cm mark in the AFL (I think Nahas was the only one), they get pushed off the ball way too easily and it's exactly what I can see happening with Daniel. He's also not all that quick which will make it harder for him.
 

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It seems a bit unpopular, but I'm strongly against picking up Caleb Daniel. Why?

I believe you can have too many short people in the side. We were consistently out marked at AFL level and Daniel only makes this problem worse. He's a liability in the air.
Where's the upside going to come from? I have no doubt he will improve under an AFL environment, but how much? I can see a lot of guys in the draft going past him.
His size? There's a good reason why there's next to no player's below the 170cm mark in the AFL (I think Nahas was the only one), they get pushed off the ball way too easily and it's exactly what I can see happening with Daniel. He's also not all that quick which will make it harder for him.
I agree. Might be great offensively but I'd be concerned about his defensive game.

The club wants to build a team of big tough footballers to combat the talent of the expansion teams & Daniel would be a weak point in that offensive.

I would rather take a shot on a taller guy like Oleg Markov for outside run if we're looking later in the draft.
 
The Bulldogs enter the upcoming draft in a strong position with five picks inside 46, including three second round selections.

Picks 26, 27, 39, 45, 46, 64 (father-son Zaine Cordy) and 82 will be at the disposal of the Bulldogs recruiters at 2014 NAB AFL Draft, to be held on Thursday, 27 November at the Gold Coast Convention and Exhibition Centre.

http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2014-11-11/tutt-to-continue-career-at-carlton
 
Not sure if anyone can answer this question- but with the talk of moving Pearce to the rookie list, how would a guy like Teia Miles stack up against him for that small defender spot? Who would have more chance of making it?

Do we need to look at bringing someone else in who could play that role?
 
I agree. Might be great offensively but I'd be concerned about his defensive game.

The club wants to build a team of big tough footballers to combat the talent of the expansion teams & Daniel would be a weak point in that offensive.

I would rather take a shot on a taller guy like Oleg Markov for outside run if we're looking later in the draft.

Yeah, he is going to get creamed in 1:1 contests around the ground, but with our picks, where can we get a player with such good decision-making and disposal under pressure that is also big quick and strong?

I figure a guy like him needs a good burst to breakaway from his direct opponent offensively and the ability to outrun his direct opponent around the ground. Sounds like he has the latter at least.
 
The Bulldogs enter the upcoming draft in a strong position with five picks inside 46, including three second round selections.

Picks 26, 27, 39, 45, 46, 64 (father-son Zaine Cordy) and 82 will be at the disposal of the Bulldogs recruiters at 2014 NAB AFL Draft, to be held on Thursday, 27 November at the Gold Coast Convention and Exhibition Centre.

http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2014-11-11/tutt-to-continue-career-at-carlton
Sorry if this question has been asked many times. But is it becoming more likely that we are only using 4 selections in the draft? There is a list lodgement due on the 13th, not sure if that's significant in the decision to rookie a current senior listed player.
Not too many of us will be happy if pick 46 is used for a rookie upgrade: Jong/Redpath.
 
His size? There's a good reason why there's next to no player's below the 170cm mark in the AFL (I think Nahas was the only one), they get pushed off the ball way too easily and it's exactly what I can see happening with Daniel. He's also not all that quick which will make it harder for him.

On the (shudder) nor-f board they reckon the kangas have been lying about boomers height for ages:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/boomers-height.992412/

And he is currently listed on their site at 167cm - same as Daniel.

Course Boomer is quicker but he is also 10 kilos heavier - Daniel has the endurance, he needs to hit the weights room for power - he may be able to get some more burst.
 
Yeah, he is going to get creamed in 1:1 contests around the ground, but with our picks, where can we get a player with such good decision-making and disposal under pressure that is also big quick and strong?
That's the challenge.

I actually think there are some nice prospects later in the draft that just don't have the exposed form.

It might just be a matter of rolling the dice on a couple of these guys and hoping one of them kicks on.
 
Not sure if anyone can answer this question- but with the talk of moving Pearce to the rookie list, how would a guy like Teia Miles stack up against him for that small defender spot? Who would have more chance of making it?

Do we need to look at bringing someone else in who could play that role?
I have Teia Miles at 179 cm and 70 kg, but have never seen him play
there is a player called Rippon at Nth Ballarat who i have seen a bit
of he finished runner up in the league B&F in his draft year behind
Nick Graham. I don't believe either would be a priority.
 
That's the challenge.

I actually think there are some nice prospects later in the draft that just don't have the exposed form.

It might just be a matter of rolling the dice on a couple of these guys and hoping one of them kicks on.

Happy to use 46 on him, in which he should be best available the kids got supreme skills left and right foot and argaubly the biggest tank of his draft class. He's like a gaff type smaller, similar pace but dual sided.
 

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It seems a bit unpopular, but I'm strongly against picking up Caleb Daniel. Why?

I believe you can have too many short people in the side. We were consistently out marked at AFL level and Daniel only makes this problem worse. He's a liability in the air.
Where's the upside going to come from? I have no doubt he will improve under an AFL environment, but how much? I can see a lot of guys in the draft going past him.
His size? There's a good reason why there's next to no player's below the 170cm mark in the AFL (I think Nahas was the only one), they get pushed off the ball way too easily and it's exactly what I can see happening with Daniel. He's also not all that quick which will make it harder for him.

He has all the hype and if he had the height would be what ? Top 15 ?

Rather pick a midget with ball magnet ability at around 46 rather than a few we have taken at that mark, Fuller, Pearce, Tutt
 
He has all the hype and if he had the height would be what ? Top 15 ?

Rather pick a midget with ball magnet ability at around 46 rather than a few we have taken at that mark, Fuller, Pearce, Tutt

Agree he is by far and away best available at 46 and if need be we can always balance our list better by trading the "midget" player who doesn't fit into our side. FWIW if one of McLean, Daniel, Lonie are at 46 then we should take on, so that Dahlhaus can push up the ground.

He certainly isn't slow either and his kicking under pressure is fantastic as well as dual sided hes good too. To hard to ignore at 46.
 
Caleb dominated against his own age like few others
Perhaps he won't be able to do that at the top level
But once your around that pick 30 mark your fishing either way
May as well punt in someone like Caleb as anyone else
If he doesn't make it at afl level
At least you know it won't be due to a lack of effort
He is just the sort of player to make a fool of all the recruiters
I would welcome us using pick 39 - if he is still there
 
Happy to use 46 on him, in which he should be best available the kids got supreme skills left and right foot and argaubly the biggest tank of his draft class. He's like a gaff type smaller, similar pace but dual sided.
What's the penetration like on his kick? Looks a little bit floaty. Plus he looks more nippy then really quick.

The kid has undoubted talent and smarts but I can't see him playing in our midfield with Hrovat already there. You just can't carry too many short guys.
 
Anyone remember a 163cm player by the name of tony liberators?
And this tony dude was slower and couldn't kick either
The more I think about it
I have no issue using pick 27
Loved Libba, but if there was an 18 year old Tony in the draft he would be overlooked too.
(God I feel sacrilegious typing that.)
 

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What's the penetration like on his kick? Looks a little bit floaty. Plus he looks more nippy then really quick.

The kid has undoubted talent and smarts but I can't see him playing in our midfield with Hrovat already there. You just can't carry too many short guys.

Agree that we can't carry too many small guys but the kids has huge talent. If he was half a foot taller he'd be entrenched in the top ten. His speed is good without being lightning and he can kick over 50 metres no trouble. I'd say we could only juggle two of his type in the team and he could be a small forward/outisde mid rotation. But his skills are almost unmatched. Lunacy if we overlook him at 46. He is a superior player to Honeychurch and we were happy to take him in the 60's and felt as though he was a 40's pickup. Daniel should be heavily considered at 46.

He will seriously get a lot of frees in his career to. Handy trait to have.
 
Agree that we can't carry too many small guys but the kids has huge talent. If he was half a foot taller he'd be entrenched in the top ten. His speed is good without being lightning and he can kick over 50 metres no trouble. I'd say we could only juggle two of his type in the team and he could be a small forward/outisde mid rotation. But his skills are almost unmatched. Lunacy if we overlook him at 46. He is a superior player to Honeychurch and we were happy to take him in the 60's and felt as though he was a 40's pickup. Daniel should be heavily considered at 46.

He will seriously get a lot of frees in his career to. Handy trait to have.
To make it at his height he will need to be in the top 5% for talent, determination, work ethic, courage, smarts & effectiveness in the AFL- not just his draft class.
If we believe he can be all of those things then I really hope we take him. To me he seems great but maybe just not great enough.
 
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