List Mgmt. 2014 Draft Discussion

[Dav1d]

Conlon hype seems to be building. Injuries seem hard to get past though. Hope he can, whether it's with us or someone else. Sounds more and more likely that Durdin will be available at our first on exposed form. I'm just not that interested somehow.

I'm not interested in Lamb, just thought it was a surprisingly big wrap, haven't heard great things generally.

I think the person writing it is a fan of Lamb
or after his last game wanted to see him come out and give the kind of performance he did

Durdin/Goddard might drop off, but this means we'd likely miss out on Brayshaw
so they'd become best available


doesn't matter who we take though, someones not going to be happy

 

[TheHoneyBadger]

I think the person writing it is a fan of Lamb
or after his last game wanted to see him come out and give the kind of performance he did

Durdin/Goddard might drop off, but this means we'd likely miss out on Brayshaw
so they'd become best available


doesn't matter who we take though, someones not going to be happy

Figures, he got a bigger wrap than anybody

Kind of hope both hit some good form, I'm not remotely interested in either and don't want them to be available at our pick.

Yeah, well, you can't please everybody. Plenty of people, myself included, groaned when it was pretty much confirmed we were going to select Bontempelli (can't speak for others, but in my case, not a knock on his character or footy, just on our record with reaching) with potentially any of Aish, Scharenberg, Kolodjashnij etc available. Now I've got to thinking he could be the best of the lot not to mention knowing what sort of a person he is off-field. It scares me thinking of him playing for another club

 

[Dav1d]

Figures, he got a bigger wrap than anybody

Kind of hope both hit some good form, I'm not remotely interested in either and don't want them to be available at our pick.

Yeah, well, you can't please everybody. Plenty of people, myself included, groaned when it was pretty much confirmed we were going to select Bontempelli (can't speak for others, but in my case, not a knock on his character or footy, just on our record with reaching) with potentially any of Aish, Scharenberg, Kolodjashnij etc available. Now I've got to thinking he could be the best of the lot not to mention knowing what sort of a person he is off-field. It scares me thinking of him playing for another club

I think Kolodjashnij or Aish would have been equally as good pick ups to be honest
and when I watched the draft, I was going to be happy with any of those three

I'm pretty sure we'll be going safe this year, Jordan De Goey has got something we like as well

I think, De Goey : Laverde : Brayshaw : Petracca : Ellis ; will all be players on our recruiters 'wish' list
tall midfielders with class and all a bit something different to offer, Brayshaw is probably the safest pick of the bunch though
would make our midfield depth, real solid; Laverde scares me when he uses the ball but is usually skilled enough to pull off what isn't a safe option
would hope to down grade with GC and potentially get two of those; obviously Petracca I think might be the first of those called out

GC might end up doing it, if there is something good on the table
Facebookers won't be happy though, because we'd likely pass up on Goddard and he must be a gun KPF hope because he is big and tall

 

[TheHoneyBadger]

I think Kolodjashnij or Aish would have been equally as good pick ups to be honest
and when I watched the draft, I was going to be happy with any of those three

I'm pretty sure we'll be going safe this year, Jordan De Goey has got something we like as well

I think, De Goey : Laverde : Brayshaw : Petracca : Ellis ; will all be players on our recruiters 'wish' list
tall midfielders with class and all a bit something different to offer, Brayshaw is probably the safest pick of the bunch though
would make our midfield depth, real solid; Laverde scares me when he uses the ball but is usually skilled enough to pull off what isn't a safe option
would hope to down grade with GC and potentially get two of those; obviously Petracca I think might be the first of those called out

GC might end up doing it, if there is something good on the table
Facebookers won't be happy though, because we'd likely pass up on Goddard and he must be a gun KPF hope because he is big and tall

I was really keen on Kolodjashnij, more than anyone. Not so much Aish because the go-home factor is strong, especially considering his family is SA footy royalty. You never know what he's like as a character, I guess. Might want to carve out his own reputation as a Brisbane player.

The talk about Laverde somewhat reminds me of Macrae's U/18 year. Downgrading would certainly cost us Petracca if he even gets to our pick, which I doubt. Could still get two of them if we managed to pull off such a trade, I'd be really happy with that.

Oh, and don't forget that his name is Goddard, too. His brother's good and he's a big boy, why didn't we pick him? Sack Macca! Then again, it's probably coming from the same people questioning why we didn't pick Boyd

 

[Dav1d]

I was really keen on Kolodjashnij, more than anyone. Not so much Aish because the go-home factor is strong, especially considering his family is SA footy royalty. You never know what he's like as a character, I guess. Might want to carve out his own reputation as a Brisbane player.

The talk about Laverde somewhat reminds me of Macrae's U/18 year. Downgrading would certainly cost us Petracca if he even gets to our pick, which I doubt. Could still get two of them if we managed to pull off such a trade, I'd be really happy with that.

Oh, and don't forget that his name is Goddard, too. His brother's good and he's a big boy, why didn't we pick him? Sack Macca! Then again, it's probably coming from the same people questioning why we didn't pick Boyd

I think Petracca would be perfect for GWS, he could be the best player in the draft
with the right support and if he is allowed time to develop
can imagine him paired with Dylan Shiel in the midfield would be pretty scary

Laverde doesn't win as much of the ball as Macrae and is fair more of a risk taker
Better skilled the Macrae, but not as good in traffic
he reminds me of Fyfe actually

Laverde & Duggan would be very nice if that ended up happening, getting two Jets boys in

and yeah, they'd say brother; even though he is his cousin
why must we be tied to every KPP for every draft year?

 

[TheHoneyBadger]

I think Petracca would be perfect for GWS, he could be the best player in the draft
with the right support and if he is allowed time to develop
can imagine him paired with Dylan Shiel in the midfield would be pretty scary

Laverde doesn't win as much of the ball as Macrae and is fair more of a risk taker
Better skilled the Macrae, but not as good in traffic
he reminds me of Fyfe actually

Laverde & Duggan would be very nice if that ended up happening, getting two Jets boys in

and yeah, they'd say brother; even though he is his cousin
why must we be tied to every KPP for every draft year?

I'm starting to get that impression with Petracca. Aside from a key defender they don't need to add too much KPP talent to their list, and it might account for the loss of Tyson and Adams to a degree.

Ah, I see. I don't really have any questions over Macrae's disposal but the method certainly isn't pretty. Just has his head screwed on and a footy brain to match. I'd love to get Duggan with our second pick, but think if we want him we'll have to downgrade.

I hoped you'd pick up on that, I saw a rant the other day on why 'we should pick up Goddard's brother', think it was the same guy that said we should appoint Jonathan Brown as coach.

And because we could have Jeremy Cameron and Jack Riewoldt as our twin towers and people would still be whinging for a key forward, it's just part of the nature of Dogs supporters now

 

[Dav1d]

And because we could have Jeremy Cameron and Jack Riewoldt as our twin towers and people would still be whinging for a key forward, it's just part of the nature of Dogs supporters now

having two gun key forwards would be nice, but having a midfield that could not only win the ball
but then defend from either a kick out or a turn over and a backline that could be excellent at clearing the ball from a kick in
would be amazing and I think you'd be able to get away with capable key forwards if that was the case

Weller might have his stocks rise, he could potentially go at our pick or just after
they probably have a better chance at getting a good player, having two picks in the first
all depends how they rate the high end talent, the GC seem pretty confident they'll end up with Weller though..
I don't know how I'd be though if Petracca would have made it to our pick though and GC snaffle him up

 

[Dav1d]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-03/u18-champs-div-1-round-6-stats

hm, Zaine has a solid DE %

 

[TempleKelvington]

and yeah, they'd say brother; even though he is his cousin
why must we be tied to every KPP for every draft year?

Um because we don't have any?

 

[TempleKelvington]

Well, so far with limited vision seen, this years draft looks far less exciting than last years and year before for that matter. The key position stocks have been raved about, but there does not seem to really be anyone of the Patton, Boyd or Hogan class. The big fella Wright is more a ruckman with a massive boot and McCArtin well...yeah again, maybe I have not seen enough of him yet.

Even the mids are not that exciting. Some good players sure, not sure too many if any are special.....except maybe Moore and we know where he's going.

Early days, but so far I'm not feeling the love.

 

[Dav1d]

Um because we don't have any?

yeah but its sad/pathetic
we don't want crap ones, yet we get tied in with every KPP
regardless of talent

I hope we do get some good KPP talent in soon and shut people up

 

[TempleKelvington]

yeah but its sad/pathetic
we don't want crap ones, yet we get tied in with every KPP
regardless of talent

I hope we do get some good KPP talent in soon and shut people up

yeah but its sad/pathetic
we don't want crap ones, yet we get tied in with every KPP
regardless of talent

I hope we do get some good KPP talent in soon and shut people up

That should do the trick

 

[Dav1d]

That should do the trick

by the way, I mean people like Dunstall saying he'd rather Melbourne because they have more potential
because they have KPPs

or Damien Barrett having a crack for similar reasons

If we draft a KPP, I just want it to be because we think they're the best available!
would be awful to draft a spud KPP in just because they've got height and athleticism but aren't naturally a footballer

 

[TempleKelvington]

by the way, I mean people like Dunstall saying he'd rather Melbourne because they have more potential
because they have KPPs

or Damien Barrett having a crack for similar reasons

If we draft a KPP, I just want it to be because we think they're the best available!
would be awful to draft a spud KPP in just because they've got height and athleticism but aren't naturally a footballer

I wouldn't get too excited about Melbourne's KP stocks. Hogan aside (and he's yet to actually play) what do they have? Last week it was resting rucks that kicked their goals. Frawley is no certainty to be there after this year. Dawes is big, useful, but hardly Tony Lockett.

I doubt we'll draft a KP player for the sake of it.

 

[True Dog]

End of the day as long as we don't pick Goddard I'll be happy. I really can't see Duggan sliding passed pick 10 let along first round.

I don't understand why so many people don't want Goddard... Is there something in his make up or character or a major flaw I'm missing.

 

[True Dog]

I think Petracca would be perfect for GWS, he could be the best player in the draft

Laverde doesn't win as much of the ball as Macrae and is fair more of a risk taker
Better skilled the Macrae, but not as good in traffic
he reminds me of Fyfe actually

Laverde & Duggan would be very nice if that ended up happening, getting two Jets boys in

and yeah, they'd say brother; even though he is his cousin
why must we be tied to every KPP for every draft year?

Good summation, I think he might have a little more toe than Fyfe... I'd be happy if we ended up with both Laverde & Duggan

 

[FROGGR]

I don't understand why so many people don't want Goddard... Is there something in his make up or character or a major flaw I'm missing.

It's probably just name association His cousin is a flog who was part of a team that cheated us out of a GF appearance in 09', and now plays for a team that should be renamed 'Peptide palace.' Has a nice ring to it don't you think?

 

[FROGGR]

And Conlon (he could be our next Tommy Williams). And Foster.

Good summation, I think he might have a little more toe than Fyfe... I'd be happy if we ended up with both Laverde & Duggan

 

[stefoid]

http://madmondayshow.com/2014/07/04/vic-country-vs-western-australia-match-notes/

some notes on the game, check out Cordy

yes, concentrate on that defensive game Cords.

 

[Dav1d]

I don't understand why so many people don't want Goddard... Is there something in his make up or character or a major flaw I'm missing.

as a forward he stands in all the wrong positions, Majak Daw looks less lost up forward then Goddard
just never looks comfortable and doesn't get involved

as a defender he is mostly quite solid, but he never dominates games
our pick will be quite early, doesn't seem like a safe pick at all to be honest

there is no character flaws in Goddard, he works his backside off but just hasn't improved enough from last year imo

 

[paulveed]

And Conlon (he could be our next Tommy Williams). And Foster.

Is my memory correct, did Conlon do his 2 weeks training with us a couple of years back ? Like Stringer.

 

[Dav1d]

Is my memory correct, did Conlon do his 2 weeks training with us a couple of years back ? Like Stringer.

pretty sure it was
two players train with us, I only ever remember one though

 

[Wizard17]

How good is Wunhym looking as an underager he has 19 disposals to halftime today according to the Cannons Twitter. And he hss been having some 40 disposal games this year probably will slide cause of his height in next years draft.

The other one I like out of the underagers at the cannons is Hisham Kerbetieh not sure how big he is though... but he is showing good signs this year.

 

[AjsGuns]

Well, given the bolters we have been taking lately, that makes him almost a certainty

I don't think we will take Lamb, he doesn't meet the good person, no dickhead policy. Apparently he was training with St.Kilda for a few weeks and tweeted "Wow, St.Kildas list is shit besides NRoo" or something to that effect, now while its probably true seems pretty dumb to say that when you're trying to get drafted. Also have heard a few other things, more importantly though 1 of McCartin/Wright/Petracca/Durdin/Brayshaw/Pickett should be available at our pick. If had both of GC's first rounders i wouldn't be opposed to using the second first rounder on Lamb (pick 15).

 

[Igloo]

pretty sure it was
two players train with us, I only ever remember one though

Dallas Wilsmore was with Conlon that year. I think we had Duggan and Duom Dawam this year.