List Mgmt. 2014 Draft Discussion

[Wizard17]

Didn't play. Think he might be injured.

What's happening with foster ?

 

[Dav1d]

Wonder where Wright will go..
KM ranks him #1 who is probably the most respected draft expert on BF and the media had him fighting for a 1-3 spot a few weeks ago, i can see him slipping to possibly #5 now. Doubt he will slip like Grundy though

1. St. Kilda - McCartin
2. Brisbae - Petracca
3. GWS - Durdin
4. Melbourne - Brayshaw/Wright (They have Hogan and Dawes)
5. Carlton - Wright/Brayshaw

if he does slip though, it'll be for a good reason

makes it more interesting, who we'd take
if we keep on winning; I like this

 

[Wizard17]

3 goals to De Goey today

 

[Wizard17]

Laverde with 3 too, Duggan with 2

 

[AjsGuns]

if he does slip though, it'll be for a good reason

makes it more interesting, who we'd take
if we keep on winning; I like this

Yup outside the top 5 you could throw a blanket over them so lets keep winning and take Laverde with our pick 7-8!

 

[Dav1d]

Yup outside the top 5 you could throw a blanket over them so lets keep winning and take Laverde with our pick 7-8!

are you a mind reader? lets never play Poker together

 

[Hrovat24]

Didn't play. Think he might be injured.

No good

 

[Hrovat24]

are you a mind reader? lets never play Poker together

Laverde is already mine

 

[Wizard17]

are you a mind reader? lets never play Poker together

Get one of McKenzie/Fox/Payne as KPF later in the draft

 

[Dav1d]

Get one of McKenzie/Fox/Payne as KPF later in the draft

why settle for one, when we could have two

hm, getting one Jets player would be good
I like the tricks Laverde has, but enjoy watching Ellis to
Duggan is probably the most skilled of the lot, Ellis the hardest worker(on the field re: tackling, pressure), Laverde the most dangerous
the one thing they all share is class and versatility to play a few positions

 

[Wizard17]

why settle for one, when we could have two

hm, getting one Jets player would be good
I like the tricks Laverde has, but enjoy watching Ellis to
Duggan is probably the most skilled of the lot, Ellis the hardest worker(on the field re: tackling, pressure), Laverde the most dangerous
the one thing they all share is class and versatility to play a few positions

What if one drps to our second pick? As well as having Laverde first round we have Ellis/Duggan in the second, Cordy third and Fox or Payne in the 4th.

 

[Dav1d]

What if one drps to our second pick? As well as having Laverde first round we have Ellis/Duggan in the second, Cordy third and Fox or Payne in the 4th.

If Ellis or Duggan fell into the second round
Could end up with two jets boys and suddenly have a lot of class

Skippos compared Laverde with Kade Kolodjashnij and I think he is just the type of player we need
and Ellis and Duggan would inject class in the middle, Fox and Payne I think would take a little longer to develop then a McKenzie
who is already quite solid

have to keep in mind, what we'd look for next year as well
might be the best available midfielder

I think if we selected Marchbank 1st and McKenzie 2nd though, that would surprise me
but would HAVE to make the people saying we need more KPPs happy

we might not even need to take Cordy in the 3rd either, so might have more options
he isn't necessarily a lock

 

[doggies ftw]

I'm starting to believe we don't necessarily need an outside mid and honestly would struggle to fit another one in the team. Would rather add another big bodied beast, as long as they have good skills and a bit of toe too though. Petrecca would be perfect

 

[_M_16_]

Wonder where Wright will go..
KM ranks him #1 who is probably the most respected draft expert on BF and the media had him fighting for a 1-3 spot a few weeks ago, i can see him slipping to possibly #5 now. Doubt he will slip like Grundy though

1. St. Kilda - McCartin
2. Brisbae - Petracca
3. GWS - Durdin
4. Melbourne - Brayshaw/Wright (They have Hogan and Dawes)
5. Carlton - Wright/Brayshaw

I agree with this one, looks rather spot on and makes sense for the top five picks. Though you never know, one team may surprise everyone with a surprise pick. Brisbane and St.Kilda will take one of McCartin or Petracca, whichever player is left over.

Wright to Carlton makes sense, as they need some ruck help and also a big bodied presence in the forward line. Melbourne have already said their focus is on the midfield this offseason. And the last position GWS probably needs a bit more skill and depth on, is the backline

As I said earlier, our draft pick will be in the 5-8 range, so pretty much whoever is about around those four picks wouldn't be to far apart talent wise. We will still grab someone good

 

[_M_16_]

I'm starting to believe we don't necessarily need an outside mid and honestly would struggle to fit another one in the team. Would rather add another big bodied beast, as long as they have good skills and a bit of toe too though. Petrecca would be perfect

I am with the same thinking, we have Tutt, JJ, Darley that can all be moulded into playing an outside role at stoppages, and provide some run off the backline. We also have Wood and Higgins who still have some miles left in them. Duggan and Pickett might not be on our radar as handy as they may be, but it is not as glaring as people make it out to be.

 

[doggies ftw]

I am with the same thinking, we have Tutt, JJ, Darley that can all be moulded into playing an outside role at stoppages, and provide some run off the backline. We also have Wood and Higgins who still have some miles left in them. Duggan and Pickett might not be on our radar as handy as they may be, but it is not as glaring as people make it out to be.

Yeah agree with that. Think a couple of those guys along with the likes of Hrovat, Hunter, Macrae, Stevens etc who are all quite capable of providing run and good skills, is more than enough. If Higgins or JJ do want out then we might need another half backer.

 

[fronkalicious]

I can see us having multiple picks in the top 20. Just a hunch.

 

[Pannalstaroz]

If Melbourne haven't got a priority pick these last 3 or 4 years, there's no chance St Kilda are getting one this year.

I agree, they played in a GF 4 years ago FFS.

 

[Dav1d]

I can see us having multiple picks in the top 20. Just a hunch.

what is this hunch?

I'm starting to believe we don't necessarily need an outside mid and honestly would struggle to fit another one in the team. Would rather add another big bodied beast, as long as they have good skills and a bit of toe too though. Petrecca would be perfect

an outside midfielder, doesn't mean they necessarily need to play in the midfield
they could become a general forward, general defender, rebounding defender
the only thing I ask of any of them is that they can win their own ball and
yes Petracca would have been perfect, oh well...I guess he can develop on another list before he comes to us

 

[fronkalicious]

what is this hunch?



an outside midfielder, doesn't mean they necessarily need to play in the midfield
they could become a general forward, general defender, rebounding defender
the only thing I ask of any of them is that they can win their own ball and
yes Petracca would have been perfect, oh well...I guess he can develop on another list before he comes to us

Just that we'll wrangle some more picks, whether via trading down, trading players out etc. I know nussing. Just guessing this might be our last real load up at draft time before we start bringing in some mature talent.

 

[Dav1d]

Just that we'll wrangle some more picks, whether via trading down, trading players out etc. I know nussing. Just guessing this might be our last real load up at draft time before we start bringing in some mature talent.

as long as we don't do the Richmond method
quality, not just role-players/depth

 

[fronkalicious]

as long as we don't do the Richmond method
quality, not just role-players/depth

That's what I desperately want with our key forward search. If the quality ain't there, be patient and work with what we have for another 12 months. Don't force a trade for the sake of it.

 

[Kony Abbott]

That's what I desperately want with our key forward search. If the quality ain't there, be patient and work with what we have for another 12 months. Don't force a trade for the sake of it.

2012 pick 5+6 (Stringer+Macrae) was thrown around for getting Jack Martin, last year pick 4 (bont) + wood was allegedly on the table for Patton.
I think I trust the club not to make a rash trade for a star player, at the time they both sounded reasonable deals but in hindsight I think we made the right calls, even though it may be still to early to tell.

 

[StringyDog]

That's what I desperately want with our key forward search. If the quality ain't there, be patient and work with what we have for another 12 months. Don't force a trade for the sake of it.

Spot on, we don't want to be left overpaying for a shit truck like Collingwood will be with Jesse White over coming years, bullet dodged last year

 

[Kony Abbott]

Spot on, we don't want to be left overpaying for a shit truck like Collingwood will be with Jesse White over coming years, bullet dodged last year

That also adds to the point I made haha.
Dawes as well could fit into that category, I rate Dawesy but the price was too high.