List Mgmt. 2014 Draft Prospects

[saintsrfreak]

Trade Dunstan to Melbourne for their first two picks.
Trade one of our first rounders for Patton/Boyd ( CJ =steak knives ).

Get out.

 

[TheLastEmperor]

McCartin looks well underdone, lacked intensity and looks to be carrying a bit of puppy fat but he showed enough to suggest he's the best key forward in the draft. Marked the ball out in front, very clean and nice kicking action despite missing a few and needing to improve his confidence.

I thought Goddard looked okay as a backman. Has a decent reach, agile enough and a beautiful kick on him. He towelled up Cripps in the second half.

As already mentioned, Webb had an excellent game. Very clean with ball in hands and a beautiful field kick and kick for goal. Certainly a player to consider in that 20-40 range. I suspect the Pelican and team will like his left boot and skills.

 

[tom1197]

509 goals in his first 209 games (before being moved pretty much permanently into the ruck), at 206cm (at a time when 206cm was equivalent to about 210cm today), is how it can work.

He's not in the current game

 

[Half Back Pocket]

I tell you, 5 picks inside 40 will net some awesome talent. We've got 3 picks already, just got to secure the other 2.

 

[God Save Max King]

The talent pool from 10-40 is much better than last year. Much, much better, just a shame the top 5 isn't nearly as good (IMO).

 

[TheLastEmperor]

I tell you, 5 picks inside 40 will net some awesome talent. We've got 3 picks already, just got to secure the other 2.

Bloody oath. Very even draft this is. We will already start with 3 inside the top 40 and I suspect we'll acquire another 1-2 via trades.

 

[aussierulesrules]

So, Patty McCartin is Travis Cloke, but without Trav's huge tank.

 

[God Save Max King]

So, Patty McCartin is Travis Cloke, but without Trav's huge tank.

Yes.

 

[Half Back Pocket]

Trav's tank was average in his first years too. Build a tank

 

[Periphery]

So, Patty McCartin is Travis Cloke, but without Trav's huge tank.

I was just thinking the exact same thing. McCartin looks to be better below his knees but is shorter.

 

[TheLastEmperor]

So, Patty McCartin is Travis Cloke, but without Trav's huge tank.

Paddy's kicking action is much better than Clokes. Mechanically he looks fine and I expect in an AFL environment he'll become a very competent goal kicker. Fitness does seem like a concern but you would expect that to improve in an AFL environment. From what we've heard he goes about his footy in a very professional manner.

 

[God Save Max King]

Paddy's kicking action is much better than Clokes. Mechanically he looks fine and I expect in an AFL environment he'll become a very competent goal kicker. Fitness does seem like a concern but you would expect that to improve in an AFL environment. From what we've heard he goes about his footy in a very professional manner.

Yes, he is a very professional player, and yes he has cleaned up his action this year, but he just can't strike the ball well. At all.

 

[Periphery]

How new is the "2 players inside the 50's from each team" rule for the U18's? Seems like that would make it hard for a deep forward like McCartin to get fitter using game time as he can't lead up the wings at all.

 

[Periphery]

Yes, he is a very professional player, and yes he has cleaned up his action this year, but he just can't strike the ball well. At all.

His kicking today looked fine to me today. His first was a bit off line but two others went through the middle and another hit the post.

 

[TheLastEmperor]

How new is the "2 players inside the 50's from each team" rule for the U18's? Seems like that would make it hard for a deep forward like McCartin to get fitter using game time as he can't lead up the wings at all.

I also noticed he was against three opponents at times with two WA players playing in front. I think he would look better with another tall in the forward 50.

 

[aussierulesrules]

He's not in the current game

No, he's not, but like I said, he was 206cm and dominating up forward when 206cm was the tallest of anyone in the comp. Basically he was the equivalent of Aaron Sandilands height in today's game, say 210cm, as I said and killing it up forward. In comparison to that, Wright is only 203cm, at present, well short of that and he's described by Shifter for instance as an "athletic freak", so I don't see how it is remotely a problem, even with the game being different these days. Especially when you have the likes of Tippett and Daniher looking so good up forward at over 200cm.

The way the game is going, by the end of Wright's career every forward line will probably have at least one in it who is over 200cm tall, so he is likely to be just one of many in that boat. Alternatively, he plays in the ruck and is likely a much better version of Ben McEvoy, with far greater speed, ability to play forward and kick bags of goals and extra height.

 

[Mowman]

Trade Dunstan to Melbourne for their first two picks.
Trade one of our first rounders for Patton/Boyd ( CJ =steak knives ).

Good message to send any good young player in the up coming drafts

 

[Smoke_Me_AKipper]

Probably the dumbest thing i've read on this forum ever.

And quite frankly offensive (seriously) as I'm a red head and trust me whilst I'm not Brad Pitt neither am I a "gangly red headed freak" as Radius so eloquently puts it. And no its not remotely funny.

What if I said something similar about Indians, Chinese, Africans, Muslims, Catholics, Protestants, Women, disabled people, etc? Would people be ok with that? I wouldn't be....there is no bloody difference!!

End of rant

 

[aussierulesrules]

Trav's tank was average in his first years too. Build a tank

May be easier said than done for someone with diabetes. My understanding of diabetes is that the thing it affects the most at an elite level of sport is their endurance and ability to build said tank. Possibly a big part of the reason Jamie Cripps only seems to play in bursts and flashes in and out of the game consistently. It may be seriously difficult for him to build up enough of a tank to do anything else.

 

[Periphery]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sportspeople_with_diabetes

 

[Smoke_Me_AKipper]

May be easier said than done for someone with diabetes. My understanding of diabetes is that the thing it affects the most at an elite level of sport is their endurance and ability to build said tank. Possibly a big part of the reason Jamie Cripps only seems to play in bursts and flashes in and out of the game consistently. It may be seriously difficult for him to build up enough of a tank to do anything else.

That's a key thing that is holding me back with Patty Mc. How will it affect him to be able to play his role and lead the fwd line for the next 10 years

We've just got to nail our 1st round picks. We did it last season with Billings and now we have to do it again....

 

[aussierulesrules]

I'm not going to read all that, Periphery, but Travis Cloke is considered to have an absolutely elite level of endurance for someone of his height and size in Australian Rules Football, so I reckon if McCartin has a poor, or average tank now, then he is going to really struggle to get it to the level Cloke's is during his upcoming career, if diabetes does in fact make it harder for someone at elite levels to build a tank and Cloke's tank has been one of the major reasons he's been so successful.

That said, McCartin might be better at the push and shove than Travis, but then again, Travis is hardly bad as far as that goes, especially when he's in peak form.

McCartin is probably crossing his fingers and toes that the rule that is being trialled in the champs this year is brought into the AFL in the next few years (the one that means each team has to have two in their forward and defensive 50's at every stoppage).

 

[tom1197]

No, he's not, but like I said, he was 206cm and dominating up forward when 206cm was the tallest of anyone in the comp. Basically he was the equivalent of Aaron Sandilands height in today's game, say 210cm, as I said and killing it up forward. In comparison to that, Wright is only 203cm, at present, well short of that and he's described by Shifter for instance as an "athletic freak", so I don't see how it is remotely a problem, even with the game being different these days. Especially when you have the likes of Tippett and Daniher looking so good up forward at over 200cm.

The way the game is going, by the end of Wright's career every forward line will probably have at least one in it who is over 200cm tall, so he is likely to be just one of many in that boat. Alternatively, he plays in the ruck and is likely a much better version of Ben McEvoy, with far greater speed, ability to play forward and kick bags of goals and extra height.

Would he play a role similar to Daniher/Tippet or more predominantly ruck?

 

[From 45]

I believe it will change whereby at least two forwards will station themselves in the forward 50 not because of rule changes, rather the coaches will be implementing this strategy

 

[Rors]

So, Patty McCartin is Travis Cloke, but without Trav's huge tank.

So he's a shorter version of Tom Hawkins then?