List Mgmt. 2014 Draft Watch Thread

[Sunny_]

I don't think so. I really think we'll use both of those picks. We have enough top end elite talent. We need more around that 15-16 area IMO.

 

[Iva Bigun]

I don't think so. I really think we'll use both of those picks. We have enough top end elite talent. We need more around that 15-16 area IMO.

We need less talented guys WTF

 

[Sunny_]

We need less talented guys WTF

Perhaps I worded it incorrectly.

This is an even draft. I just think we would do much better using our two picks in the teens rather than one at 6.

 

[Iva Bigun]

This has been posted on our board, and it's more of an 'outside the box' idea ...

Given that you need to downsize your list, do you think you guys would be keen on the idea of Swapping Picks #10 and #16 (for arguments sake) for our Pick #6?

Get's you close to an elite talent at the pointy end.

This has been posted on our board, and it's more of an 'outside the box' idea ...

Given that you need to downsize your list, do you think you guys would be keen on the idea of Swapping Picks #10 and #16 (for arguments sake) for our Pick #6?

Get's you close to an elite talent at the pointy end.

I am sure we would, as you point out it will also mean the cull of current players would be reduced. I am not sure how well your club would receive this but 2 first round picks would be a good step for a club rebuilding its young talent.

 

[Iva Bigun]

Perhaps I worded it incorrectly.

This is an even draft. I just think we would do much better using our two picks in the teens rather than one at 6.

As long as that talent is better than the players we have to off load to bring them on. The last player we grabbed at around the 12 mark was Lonergan, not sure he is ahead of Hutchins, Taylor, Bock, Hunt, Shade and Allen

 

[SUNS]

As long as that talent is better than the players we have to off load to bring them on. The last player we grabbed at around the 12 mark was Lonergan, not sure he is ahead of Hutchins, Taylor, Bock, Hunt, Shade and Allen

Lonergan is streets ahead of all of these players, except a fit Bock of course.

Whether his body agrees however is yet to be seen

 

[Ben Drever]

Anyone know much about PBC lad Brad Scheer? Won the Maclean Medal as Best Player in the U16s Div2. Sounds like a gun and is in the Suns Academy apparently. Kicked 5 goals on debut for PBC seniors. A midfielder/fwd from what I can gather.

I read recruiters are calling him the next michael voss.. Supposably his only 15? Possibly 16.. Looks the goods.. Hopefully the suns can tie him up in the acadamy till the draft

 

[Sunny_]

We have dibs on him. Heard good things too.

 

[Ben Drever]

That'll be nice.. In 2 yrs time when hopefully were fighting for the premiership we end up with a top 10 player in the same mould as michael voss with a minimal pick!!
Winning!!

 

[Sunny_]

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...-to-michael-voss/story-fnj9yd7s-1226988432551

 

[Iva Bigun]

Lonergan is streets ahead of all of these players, except a fit Bock of course.

Whether his body agrees however is yet to be seen

I would agree that his (Lonergan) potential has him in a higher bracket of player talent but to date due to injury he has shown little, his spot in our best 22 is in no way a given.

 

[Iva Bigun]

I read recruiters are calling him the next michael voss.. Supposably his only 15? Possibly 16.. Looks the goods.. Hopefully the suns can tie him up in the acadamy till the draft

The Vics are already whinging about the zoning the "Northern" teams have, don't be surprised if they try and change it in the next couple of years. Emma Quayle has a piece on it on the Real Footy webpage

 

[Sunny_]

These are the players eligible to be picked up under our Academy rules this year:

Gold Coast Suns – Ryan Agita (Broadbeach), Robert Blood (Southport Sharks), James Farley-Smith (Surfers Paradise), Cassidy Haberfield (Surfers Paradise), Isaac Hay (Broadbeach), James Holland (Southport), Tom Michael (Redland), Dylan Mutu (Surfers Paradise), Brayden Preuss (Surfers Paradise).

 

[Sunny_]

Holland had a good game for us in the 2s last week... But he's very, very small at 172cm and 76kg.

Despite that, he amassed 27 touches and 5 tackles.

This is he playing for QLD in the Champs this year:

 

[Sunny_]

I'll now go through the stats of all of our Academy eligible players for the NEAFL this year so we can buzz about them. It can be my task for today.

 

[Iva Bigun]

These are the players eligible to be picked up under our Academy rules this year:

Gold Coast Suns – Ryan Agita (Broadbeach), Robert Blood (Southport Sharks), James Farley-Smith (Surfers Paradise), Cassidy Haberfield (Surfers Paradise), Isaac Hay (Broadbeach), James Holland (Southport), Tom Michael (Redland), Dylan Mutu (Surfers Paradise), Brayden Preuss (Surfers Paradise).

Do we know anything about these guys?

EDIT scratch that your already on to it Sunny, I should of know

 

[Sunny_]

Okay. So if a player isn't listed, they did not play for the Suns or any other senior team in the NEAFL that week. Remember, teams like Surfers Paradise aren't in the comp.

Round 1
James Farley-Smith - 8D (2 ineffective), 4M, 1T, 1.0
Cassidy Haberfield - 13D (2 ineffective), 3T, 0.1
James Holland - 12D, 8M, 4T, 2.0, 1SA.
Tom Michael - 5D, 1HO.
Dylan Mutu - 15D (3 ineffective), 5M, 2T, 2I50, 2R50, 2SA.

Round 2
Robert Blood - 8D (1 ineffective), 3T, 0.1.
Cassidy Haberfield - 9D (1 ineffective), 3T, 2I50, 2R50.
James Holland - 14D (5 ineffective), 3T, 1I50, 3R50, 1SA.
Tom Michael - 7D (1 ineffective), 5T.
Dylan Mutu - 15D (4 ineffective), 1T, 3I50, 1.0

Round 3
None played.

Round 4
Robert Blood - 10D (1 ineffective), 2T, 2I50, 3R50.
Cassidy Haberfield - 11D (4 ineffective), 2T, 1.0.
Isaac Hay - 5D (2 ineffective), 3T.
Tom Michael - 6D (1 ineffective), 2T, 5HO.

Round 5
James Holland - 13D (2 ineffective), 4M, 3I50, 1SA.
Tom Michael - 10D (1 ineffective), 1T.

Round 6
Tom Michael - 7D, 1T
Ryan Agita - 13D (unknown effectiveness), 3T, 0.1
Brayden Preuss - 2D, 4T, 10HO, 0.1
Cassidy Haberfield - 18D (unknown effectiveness), 4T

Round 7
BYE.

Round 8
Ryan Agita - 16D (3 ineffective), 3T, 1.0, 1SA
Robert Blood - 15D (5 ineffective), 8M, 3.3.
James Farley-Smith - 8D (4 ineffective), 3M, 3T, 0.1
Cassidy Haberfield - 16D (7 ineffective), 5T, 3I50.
James Holland - 15D (2 ineffective), 2T, 3R50.
Dylan Mutu - 18D (4 ineffective), 1T, 2I50.
Brayden Preuss - 9D (1 ineffective), 17HO.

Round 9
Robert Blood - 9D (3 ineffective), 1T, 3I50.
James Holland - 7D (2 ineffective), 2T, 2R50, 0.1.
Brayden Preuss - 8HO.

Round 10
Ryan Agita - 16D (unknown effectiveness), 2T.
James Farley-Smith - 4D, 2T.

Round 11
Ryan Agita - 7D, 1T
Robert Blood - 10D (3 ineffective), 2T, 3I50.
James Holland - 13D (2 ineffective), 3T, 1SA.

Round 12
Ryan Agita - 12D (3 ineffective), 1T, 1.1
Robert Blood - 5D, 1T, 1.1, 1SA
James Farley-Smith - 10D, 3M, 2T.
Tom Michael - 7D, 2T, 5HO.

Round 13
James Farley-Smith - 3D.
Cassidy Haberfield - 12D (3 ineffective), 1T, 1SA.
Isaac Hay - 13D (2 ineffective) 1T, 0.1
Tom Michael - 3D, 1T.

Round 14
James Farley-Smith - 8D, 4HO.
Brayden Preuss - 6D, 2T, 20HO.
Tom Michael - 8D, 2T, 7HO.

Round 15
Robert Blood - 9D (4 ineffective), 2M, 3T, 2CL, 0.1, 1SA.
James Holland - 24D (7 ineffective), 7M, 3T, 6I50's, 1.1, 1SA.
Tom Michael - 8D (2 ineffective), 1SA.
Dylan Mutu - 19D (6 ineffective), 5T, 4I50, 2SA.

Round 16
BYE.

Round 17
None played.

Round 18.
James Holland - 27D (unknown effectiveness), 4M, 5T, 0.1
James Farley-Smith - 4D.

 

[Sunny_]

Do we know anything about these guys?

EDIT scratch that your already on to it Sunny, I should of know

Things you want to be keeping an eye out is how a player improves throughout the year. Remember, the kids at this age can develop rapidly within a span of months. Kade Kolodjashnij is a prime example of this, who just started to back himself and get a heap of confidence in the span of 6-7 months. He went from a late round prospect to very very early first round calculations.

Holland for instance wasn't getting great numbers when the year started, but as the season went on his development has really come on. He's now posting great numbers, and played in the Queensland state U18 team.

To me, not many are really that draftable. The stand-out I would think is Holland. Others look like rookie picks.

 

[Ben Drever]

Nothing wrong with small boomer harvey type players...
Lewis taylor prime example this yr at the lions..
If we can get holland for a 3rd rounder or something.. Why not...

 

[Ben Drever]

Could of even had Lewis Taylor who was thought to be a top 10 pick in last yrs draft but fell down to high 20s because of his height..instead of jack Leslie or Sean lemmens.. Only time will tell if Clayton made the right call on 2 players that were meant to be 4th round picks in lemmens and leslie

I do rate lemmens tho.. Another pre season on endurance and 6months of eating chicken n protein n lifting weights... Looks a good player

 

[Experimental]

Nothing wrong with small boomer harvey type players...

Couldn't agree more. The league needs more small players. In a game full of giraffes, it pays to have a hyena.

 

[Ben Drever]

Matera always looks dangerous with the ball in his hand... Any player over 192cm in general play not in forward 50.. Dont do a hell of alot.. Matera at half back.. On a wing or forward pocket... Dangerous!

 

[sunsofanarchy]

Can you have 3 blokes 175cm or smaller in the one side though? With prestia and matera around that mark? And if you can, the SA skipper Jake Johansen had a cracker of a carnival. Having said all this, I think we should be looking at talls with our later picks

 

[Ben Drever]

Our game plan.. Well i think it is most games apart from when we get smashed.. Is take the game on fast quick movement n get it into a big 3 prong attack.. When we do this.. We win..
Iv mentioned in a earlier post the hawks were playing rioli hartung n puopolo in the 1 side before injuries hit.. The faster more dangerous our half forwards are the better chance our big guys have of getting onto a nice quick kick into 50 N if it comes to ground the little fellas front n centre..
See many a game dixon/day/ lynch go for the mark the ball hits the deck we have 2 200cm + big guys who take
A hour to turn a circle.. N the defenders run it straight out around them with easy handballs n kicks over n over...end to end stuff..
I know boston or sumner could b that guy.. But injuries etc..
Exactly.. Injuries.. What happens when boston sumner matera all injured when were top 4 going into finals.. We have no little guy?
Were lacking a player in that area Draft another in for back up i say.

 

[Ben Drever]

I guess were no chance of getting lachie weller then..?
And why wasnt darcy trask included?