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apuchar said:
6: Fremantle – Tom Lamb

Position: Forward/midfielder

Height: 192 cm, Weight: 83 kg, DOB: 19/10/1996

Club: Dandenong Stingrays

Projected draft range: 6-20

Plays Like: Brendon Goddard

It was nowhere near the National Championships Tom Lamb was hoping for, in fact if anything the carnival showed us what Lamb is lacking, rather than what he brings to the table. Lamb was often found out defensively and struggled to involve himself over four quarters in each game he played. However, despite his inconsistencies he still offers plenty. At ground level, Lamb is solid; he tracks the ball well for a player of his size and uses the ball well by hand. His marking game, particularly contested, mirrors that of what key forwards are offering up this year. He reads the ball well in flight, and although he can sometimes double-grab a mark rather than take it cleanly, he still marks well overhead and out in front and isn’t one to submit to a chest mark very often. Although Lamb’s kicking efficiency around the ground might be a weakness at this stage, he understands the momentum of the game, and often plays on when he can, backing his speed and athleticism and thumping kick to propel his team into attack. The big tick for Lamb is his versatility. He can play up on the flanks, on a wing or push deep forward. In the final game of the National Championships he was stationed across half-back where he had his best game of the carnival, finishing with 14 disposals at 86% disposal efficiency, including six marks.
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Freo written all over him.
 
purplerunsdeep said:
fair call - only went with Kietel as he is from WA - go home factor

Lamb's write up on Paige's phantom draft

Tom Lamb’s biggest bug bear is his body language and attitude. Despite this along with a mixed bag of form during the National Championships, Lamb is still very much in the frame to be a first round selection, but I’ve got him sliding here to the second round. As much as it separates the cream of the crop on offer towards the pointy end of the draft, the National Carnival also has a habit of exposing areas of weakness in players. For Lamb, it showed us a frustrating conundrum in Lamb’s game, whereby he could pull off something stunning, and follow it up with a butchered kick, a stray handball or just an inability to apply himself for four quarters. Despite these inconsistencies, he still offers plenty. At ground level, Lamb is solid, given he tracks the ball well for a player of his size and uses the ball well by hand. His marking game, particularly contested, mirrors that of what key forwards are offering up this year. He reads the ball well in flight, and although he can sometimes double grab a mark rather than take it cleanly, he still marks well both overhead and out in front. Although Lamb’s kicking efficiency around the ground might be his weakness at this stage, he understands the momentum of the game, and often plays on when he can, backing his speed, athleticism and thumping kick to propel his team into attack. Above all, the big tick for Lamb is his versatility.

Player Update: Sliding. He’s had an ordinary finals campaign, and has had a mixed bag this year after a stellar bottom-age season in 2013. Massive upside presents the team that’ll take him.
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That write-ups reminds me of Kep for some reason...
 

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Clems Knee said:
eastfreo75 do you have the source for the 11.1 beep test Clem Smith claim?
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http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2014-draft-discussion.1064365/page-180#post-35495298

Should have done a bit more research. It was actually 12.2

WA players

3 km time trail:
Deluca: 10:08
Garlett: 10:19
Watson 10:29
Pickett: 11:06
Cripps: 11:10
Frampton: 11:24
Anderson 11:30 (injured)
Keitel: 12:01
Smith: 12:12

Beep test:
Garlett 15.2 (PB)
Pickett 14.6 (PB)
Deluca 14.6
Watson 14.4
Cripps 13.7
Frampton 12.10
Smith 12.2

20m Sprint:
Pickett 2.87
Deluca 2.98
Garlett 2.98
Frampton 3.02
Smith 3.03
Watson 3.07
Keitel 3.07
Cripps 3.11

Agility:
Smith 8.09
Garlett 8.4
Watson 8.5
Deluca 8.6
 
eastfreo75 said:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2014-draft-discussion.1064365/page-180#post-35495298

Should have done a bit more research. It was actually 12.2

WA players

3 km time trail:
Deluca: 10:08
Garlett: 10:19
Watson 10:29
Pickett: 11:06
Cripps: 11:10
Frampton: 11:24
Anderson 11:30 (injured)
Keitel: 12:01
Smith: 12:12

Beep test:
Garlett 15.2 (PB)
Pickett 14.6 (PB)
Deluca 14.6
Watson 14.4
Cripps 13.7
Frampton 12.10
Smith 12.2

20m Sprint:
Pickett 2.87
Deluca 2.98
Garlett 2.98
Frampton 3.02
Smith 3.03
Watson 3.07
Keitel 3.07
Cripps 3.11

Agility:
Smith 8.09
Garlett 8.4
Watson 8.5
Deluca 8.6
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Wow, Garlett. Some awesome numbers there in the context of his also winning the kicking test.
 
eastfreo75 said:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2014-draft-discussion.1064365/page-180#post-35495298

Should have done a bit more research. It was actually 12.2

WA players

3 km time trail:
Deluca: 10:08
Garlett: 10:19
Watson 10:29
Pickett: 11:06
Cripps: 11:10
Frampton: 11:24
Anderson 11:30 (injured)
Keitel: 12:01
Smith: 12:12

Beep test:
Garlett 15.2 (PB)
Pickett 14.6 (PB)
Deluca 14.6
Watson 14.4
Cripps 13.7
Frampton 12.10
Smith 12.2

20m Sprint:
Pickett 2.87
Deluca 2.98
Garlett 2.98
Frampton 3.02
Smith 3.03
Watson 3.07
Keitel 3.07
Cripps 3.11

Agility:
Smith 8.09
Garlett 8.4
Watson 8.5
Deluca 8.6
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Thank you. Is there a place where all the combine results are available?
 
That 12.2 in the beep is bad, but the 12.12 for the 3km is also shocking. If he didn't have a raging flu or injury, those numbers are almost bad enough to stop him getting drafted, considering he's not really rated a top 20 talent to begin with.
 
Clem was rated top 10 at this time last year. Had a poorish U18 campaign, but did some good physical work in getting WA their only win when moved forward. His football season finished a month ago. Pretty easy to lose condition if you are not in a structured regime. You just have to love his physicality though. Would terrorize small forwards.
 

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Tayl0r said:
His short distance speed runs were good.

He would be listed under the "project player" group that our new running coach Sam Menegola is taking for lap practice in preseason.*

*Not actually happening.
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I'm not a recruiters A-hole and TBH, I don't have the first clue who we realistically should and shouldn't be targeting, but personally, I would not take Smith before our third round selection, and would rather have him via the rookie draft. I get the feeling he's not even going to come close to living up to the hype.
 
Agenfrida said:
I'm not a recruiters A-hole and TBH, I don't have the first clue who we realistically should and shouldn't be targeting, but personally, I would not take Smith before our third round selection, and would rather have him via the rookie draft. I get the feeling he's not even going to come close to living up to the hype.
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I'd agree with you. Oozes talent, but you'd get the feeling the hours of training and other responsibilities would be too much for him.

Garlett by the sounds and from reading articles ticks all the correct boxes and already has the work ethic to succeed. Could be a very handy 2nd rounder, but I doubt he'd slide that far.
 
ImperialPurple said:
Hmmm not so sure, given this comment: "Lamb was often found out defensively"
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They were discussing him as a possible pick #1 if he had the defensive side and consistency there.

That's the sort of player we would want at a mid teen pick isn't it? A slider with a deficiency we can look to fix through attitude?
 
Tayl0r said:
They were discussing him as a possible pick #1 if he had the defensive side and consistency there.

That's the sort of player we would want at a mid teen pick isn't it? A slider with a deficiency we can look to fix through attitude?
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In a lot of cases these things can change with maturity and just by being in an AFL environment.
 

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manpurple said:
And watching his highlight's on youtube, kicks with both feet without a problem in traffic. I had difficulty working out if he was a left footer or a right.
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Yeah, watched his highlights last night. I reckon the Egirls would be into him in a big way. Would be surprised if he's still available at our second.
 
Cal Twomey has ranked the top 25 players in this year's NAB Draft.

(This is not a Phantom Draft)

1: Christian Petracca - 185cm 92kg
2: Patrick McCartin - 193cm 92kg
3: Isaac Heeney - 186kg 82kg (rip off)
4: Angus Brayshaw - 187cm 86kg
5: Peter Wright - 203cm 102kg
6: Darcy Moore - 199cm 93kg (F&S)
7: Jarrod Pickett - 180cm 76kg
8: Jayden Laverde - 189cm 82kg
9: Jake Lever - 194cm 82kg
10: Lachie Weller - 181cm 71kg
11: Sam Durdin - 196cm 87kg
12: Paul Ahern - 181cm 77kg
13: Jordan De Goey - 187cm 82kg
14: Liam Duggan - 183cm 76kg
15: Tom Lamb - 193cm 84kg
16: Corey Ellis - 185cm 76kg
17: Caleb Marchbank - 193cm 85kg
18: Jarrod Garlett - 180cm 80kg
19: Hugh Goddard - 195cm 92kg
20: Connor Blakey - 186cm 81kg
21: Jack Steele - 186cm 82kg (Academy)
22: Kyle Langford - 190cm 73kg
23: Ed Vickers-Willis - 190cm 82kg
24: Zaine Cordy - 192cm 80kg (F&S)
25: Clem Smith - 177cm 67kg
 

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