It was the last week leading up to the draft. reporters like Emma Quayle are the ones who know the most about who clubs will draft not amateurs on Big Footy. You still need to have good contacts at clubs to know.
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Thats why her first round selections are usually close to correct but becomes as wildly inaccurate, beyond around pick 15, as the amateurs always are. I figure this is done by the expedient of ringing the list managers up and asking them in turn "If x and y are off the table who is your pick?". Rather than making the judgement purely by watching hours of junior football (an odd enough activity in itself for anyone who is not a recruiter or a parent).
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She does watch a lot of junior football from what I understand. But even if you do your opinion will not match others the further you go.
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Quayle is the pinnacle. The rest I take with a pinch of salt.
I watched the same footage and didn't see a him kick with the right foot . He would have too show a lot more for me to be interested ,183 cm and 75 kg he would need a couple of years for us to develop him into an AFL player .
If we pass on Wright I hope we get either Keitel or McKenzie with our second pick
I'd be ok with Mitch McGovern too
I'd be ok with Mitch McGovern too
The phantom rated talls include McCartin, Lever, Wright. Goddard, Durdin and Moore. If they are all gone then there will be some very good mids available. Could even stretch that list to include Marchbank and McKenzie.
If we do get a tall with our first pick I would be happy if we got Neal-Bullen with our second pick. He seems very impressive in the write up on the AFL site today and his highlights look impressive to. A solid clearance winner that has proven himself at SANFL level also.
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I'm in the elite kicking mid first category ( might be on my own ) & hope josh is picked up as a rookie or late pick in the draft if that is allowed & best tall left with our second pick. If you look at some of the talls picked up early in last few seasons, pattern 2 knee recon , hogan stress fractures after 1year in vfl, boyd didn't have to good a year at giants, imo your better developing them or trying to pinch some ones else after they have developed them. I think they get the weight on to quick & the body not ready for it at the elite level.
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I would be happy to pick up Jarrod Garlett in the first round if we don't get a tall. Apparently he's a training animal like Walters
Imagine the nuffies on here and the outrage that would ensue after picking another skinny indigenous kid with our first rounder (or really just a skinny mid/flanker in general), would absolutely love Garlett but doubt he'll last.
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He should be available at our pick. Most of the phantom drafts have him going late in the first round or an early second rounder
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I couldn't disagree with you more.
KPFs do take time, as you say, to get used to the game and get their body right. All the more reason to get one now.
With regard to pinching someone else's, we've tried that for about 4 years now. Hasn't worked. Now we're approaching a seriously critical point, Pav retiring.
You say you're better off developing them - that requires you to draft them in the first place. Sure, you can load up on late picked/rookie talls, but they rarely work out as a genuine #1 KPF. Here we are with what will probably be our highest pick for the next few years, on a draft loaded with quality talls at the top. No better time.
Out of interest I took a look at the draft position of the 'genuine key targets' in the comp. Feel free to disagree with the list but I think it covers most of the guys who can actually function as a #1 KPF:
Pav #4 1999
JJK #4 2005
Schultz #12 2002
Walker #75 (NSW Scholarship) 2007
Hawkins #41 (F/S - touted as top 5)
Pitrie #23 2000
Waite #46 (F/S) 2001
Roughead #2 2004
Cloke #39 (F/S) 2004
N Riewoldt #1 2000
J Riewoldt #13 2006
Franklin #5 2004
Tippett #32 2006
Cameron Minidraft 2011
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Others not yet so established but borderline:
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Daniher #10 (F/S - touted as top 5) 2012
Carlisle #24 2009
M. Clark #9 2005
Crameri Rookie 2009
Dixon GC Zone 2009 (Highly Touted)
Josh Jenkins Rookie 2011
T. Lynch (GC) #11 2010
So high picks are generally where you get your KPFs. Adjusting the F/S picks and the minidraft/GC picks to where they were touted to otherwise go, the average is ~20 and the median, being the more appropriate measure, is ~11.
Now I really CBF doing success/failure rates for KPFs picked in different ranges, because while it might be more accurate, it would take ages. But a cursory examination of these data would seem to suggest that #1 KPFs are more likely than not to come from 1st round picks (effectively half of those listed cost a 1st round pick equivalent).
I'm not going to be upset if we pick a mid, because there could be some seriously good ones available. But if there is a time to go tall, it is now, in this draft, with this pick, assuming a good tall (eg. Durdin, Wright, etc) drops to us.
Yeah, just a feeling based on no evidence or logic.
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Can we get this kid?
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Mr Fonebone
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Bet mine is faster
At what?
Mr Fonebone
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running
Shadow Man
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It would be nice but I don't think there will be any chance, he could the bolter with that bag of tricks.
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