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List Mgmt. 2014 Draft
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I read somewhere that both were at about 192cm but I wouldn't trust that, neither is a true key position size at this point, not when they will be competing against the 200cm key forwards drafted in the last few years.
I do have my moments
Lever is seen to be a top 3 talent who did his knee. As we already have very tall backmen in Pearce and maybe Tanner who can handle the very tall forwards, I feel we have the luxury of going for the best backman, with the best talent and that appears to be Lever.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-25/dockers-coy-on-tall-targets
Perhaps first round although no direct quotes from Lloyd himself. Seems we are real interested in Blakely and Smith of the locals.
Did we find out beforehand that the club was keen on Apeness? I thought it was a right field pick?
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I thought Freo were looking at McCarthy (or McCartney?) before GWS surprisingly took him earlier?
Like 1 or 2 days before the draft it was leaked that unless someone awesome slipped down to us (ie McCarthy), we were taking Apeness with pick 17
Aaahh ok, all I remember is the McCarthy rumours.
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I think that's the meme on here, but I seem to recall the Apeness rumour came from one of the more reliable sources.
Having said that - i'm hoping we pick up one of Lever, Goddard or Laverde.
purplerunsdeep
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For the guys that make training regularly > do we actually think Pearce will amount to anything? Or is the Tanner Smith of 2015 - de-list and re-rookied?
Clem Smith seems right up our alley. I can see us using pick 34 on him
Very similar situation to Ballantyne in 2008
Very similar situation to Ballantyne in 2008
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/afl/a/25608575/tall-order-for-dockers-at-draft/
Fremantle list manager Brad Lloyd has confirmed the club will be seeking a tall defender at Thursday’s national draft, but not necessarily with their first pick.
The Dockers will go into the draft with picks 13, 34, 54 and 68.
They have recently been linked with 197cm South Australian defender Sam Durdin at their first pick, although it is understood one of Peter Wright, Jake Lever and Hugh Goddard may be preferred if they are still available.
Speaking to media following a meeting with Fremantle's management committee, Lloyd said the club would like to bring in some talls but were happy to recruit them with a later picks if an outstanding midfielder made was still on the board at No.13.
Fremantle list manager Brad Lloyd has confirmed the club will be seeking a tall defender at Thursday’s national draft, but not necessarily with their first pick.
The Dockers will go into the draft with picks 13, 34, 54 and 68.
They have recently been linked with 197cm South Australian defender Sam Durdin at their first pick, although it is understood one of Peter Wright, Jake Lever and Hugh Goddard may be preferred if they are still available.
Speaking to media following a meeting with Fremantle's management committee, Lloyd said the club would like to bring in some talls but were happy to recruit them with a later picks if an outstanding midfielder made was still on the board at No.13.
Mr Fonebone
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I saw Pearce a bit with Peel last year and I like what I saw. Very mobile and willing to take the opposition on. Dont recall seeing him in the forward half though.
Don't know about Tanner. Never been fit long enough to string some games together.
How many rookie picks will we have?
We still have 3 from last year plus Tanner Smith.
Doe that still leave us with 2?
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We delisted Menegola, Wood & retained Ballard & Vandy - so I think we're going in with 2 rookie picks (one of which will be Tanner).
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I saw him train & play a few times, looked very good imo, got bit of speed reads it well, could develop into a dustin fletcher type. Don't think he'll ever be more than 90 odd kg.
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Yeh this is the same as I heard, looks like apeness is a more Cloke type which could be better.
Does Moller count seeing as he's a NSW scholarship player?
Even if he does doesn't that mean we will still have another 2 picks even if we take Tanner?
In case Laverde falls, possible tall backs/forwards with 2nd/3rd pick
Pick 41: St Kilda – Keenan Ramsay
Position: Key defender/forward
Height: 193 cm, Weight: 86 kg, DOB:
Club: Port Adelaide
Projected draft range: 40-rookie
Plays like: Lachie Henderson
Brenton Phillips’ move to make Keenan Ramsey South Australia’s number one key defender proved to be a masterstroke. After a move that created the unlikeliest of heroes, Ramsey can find himself very stiff to be overlooked as the All-Australian full back after a flawless championships. Most would know Ramsey’s back story by now: retinal cancer at the age of two meant that his eye was removed and such he has a glass eye, but that hasn’t stopped him. Ramsey may lack peripheral vision, but if anything it makes him move his head more, opening up greater options and angles. It’s all Ramsey knows, which is why it seemingly hasn’t had an ounce of an effect on his football to date. Ramsey started up forward during his junior football at Port and last year kicked 16 goals from 11 games: however, a switch into defence unearthed a skill set that makes him Ramsay ever so valuable to a league side. In particular, Ramsey’s spoiling, his strength to kill a contest and an ability to make his opponent accountable has seen him develop into a real prospect. His defensive attributes are quite strong, given that he tackles well and isn’t a stranger for getting into a scrap. He’s a great mark, reading the ball well in flight and protecting the drop zone. He’s better suited at playing at centre half forward or back, mostly because he has foot skills that are good enough to find a team-mate further afield. He certainly could fill out further, and when he does his current skill set is only going to be enhanced. He does have a limited ceiling because he doesn’t possess huge closing speed, a massive leap or elite athleticism, but his goal kicking at the combine returned a perfect score.
Pick 62: Essendon – Brenton Payne
Position: Key forward
Height: 193 cm, Weight: 76 kg, DOB: 09/03/1996
Club: Western Jets
Projected draft range: 40-rookie
Plays like: Jake Carlisle
If the name sounds familiar, it’s because it is. Brenton Payne is the grandson of former Essendon 184-gamer Charlie Payne, who also played in both of Essendon’s 1963 and 165 premiership wins. In his own right, Brenton had a solid year for the Western Jets in the TAC Cup, bagging 18 goals whilst impressing at National Championship level, averaging one goal and 2.4 marks from 10 disposals. The elite endurance runner’s tank means he outworks and outlasts most defenders. Although light at just 76 kilograms, Payne is strong, loves to get into physical one-on-one scraps for the ball and has excellent closing speed, allowing him to burn his opponent off the mark. Defensively speaking, he’s accountable while also showing enough to suggest that he can be a versatile forward with his ability to clunk one-handed grabs: Payne averaged 5.6 marks per game at TAC Cup level this season. He has scope to become a handy swingman, with his defensive side also
Pick 19: Essendon – Tyler Keitel (end of first round compensation)
Position: Key forward/defender
Height: 194 cm, Weight: 80 kg, DOB: 07/02/1996
Club: East Perth
Projected Draft Range: 15-25
Plays Like: Taylor Walker
Super versatile, Tyler Keitel (pronounced ky-tel) showed signs in last year’s National Championships as a bottom-aged player that he had all the makings of becoming a first round pick this year. So far he looks like delivering on those predictions, especially since adding six kilograms to his 2013 playing weight and growing three centimetres. At 194 cm, Keitel has torn apart the WAFL Colts for East Perth, kicking 14 goals from six games thus far, however he’s shown scope in pushing down back where his physicality and discipline make him a great wild card in any coach’s arsenal. My big tick for Keitel is his cleanness overhead, particularly under pressure. He takes the ball at its highest point, and importantly has clean and safe hands at full extension on the lead. He understands how to use his body in a marking situation, and bodies up nicely to protect the drop of the ball. Keitel is the type of forward who can take a vintage pack mark, often clunking them when at times he looks out-positioned, and has that Hollywood swagger that makes him a real cult figure. He also doesn’t mind getting a bit higher up the ground in that true centre half forward role. In terms of his set shots, he has a clean and simple technique and with good delivery can really do justice on the scoreboard, however at the National Championships he has only kicked goals in one out of his three games so far. It’s quite probable Keitel could make a bolt up the draft order if he continues to have a big influence like he has at National Championship level. Currently from his three games, he is averaging 16.3 disposals at 70%, one goal, 7.3 marks and five contested possessions.
#34 Hawthorn - Sam Bevan (WA – KPF/KPD)
Height: 195cm, Weight: 80kg, DOB: 12/06/1996
Recruited from: Claremont
Style: Sam Reid
Player comparison:
Range: 30-rookie
Profile: A light body at this stage and a project player but has some talent. He’s for his size and type a very skilled key position player who uses it really well by foot. In front of goal he makes the most of his opportunities and rarely misses his set shot attempts. He’s a capable mark on the lead and excellent in the air but with his lack of size he’s not a 1v1 or contested marking threat at this point. Down back he’s a capable intercept mark reading it well and knowing when to peel off his man and can also play a reasonable shutdown role so he does have the scope to play at either end.
not a back but sounds alright
#37 Fremantle - Jesse Watchman (SA – KPF/Ruck)
Height: 196cm, Weight: 91kg, DOB: 28/01/1996
Recruited from: West Adelaide
Style:
Player comparison: Josh Walker
Range: 15-45
Profile: Watchman is a tall, big bodied key forward who can also play some minutes in the ruck if required. Watchman is a natural key forward who attacks the ball well and can take a contested grab. He’s strong 1v1 and can win the contests when isolated deep in the front half. He reads the flight consistently and gets to the drop of the ball better than most. He’s reliable in front of goal and is a real volume goalkicker who can provide some real scoreboard impact.
Pick 57: Port Adelaide – Sean McLaren
Position: Utility
Height: 197 cm, Weight: 92 kg, DOB: 10/01/1996
Club: Sandringham Dragons
Projected draft range: 40-rookie
Plays like: Lachie Keeffe
Sean McLaren’s two finals games were very impressive. He’s was an influential target up forward for Sandringham, whilst his tap work in the ruck has been a big reason the Dragons have dominated clearances through the finals series. The promising young key position prospect is raw in facets, but blessed in other areas. He has a terrific leap, is aggressive and marks very well. He has an element of excitement in his game, with has versatility to play at both ends of the ground and through the ruck incredibly valuable. When pitted against opposition talls, McLaren uses his long arms to spoil and reach around to kill the ball. He’s quite similar to Collingwood’s Lachie Keeffe, given that he is quite agile and athletic, has strong closing speed that often allows him to take defensive marks and is very clean at ground level. He has a good mix of size, speed and endurance and is now coming to terms that he can have a huge impact a game. McLaren was rated as a standout character during the AFL-AIS tour of Europe early in the year.
Pick 58: Sydney - Daniel Nielson
Position: Key defender
Height: 193 cm, Weight: 90 kg, DOG: 09/05/1996
Projected draft range: 50-rookie
Plays like: Jack Frost
One of the more underrated key defenders available in this year’s draft. Daniel Nielson is your typical close-checking defender with the ability to stop key forwards dead in their tracks. He plays a heavy negating role, and whilst he isn’t a big ball winner, he has exceptional closing speed and long limbs that allow him to spoil or take defensive marks. He’s quite combative in his role while also demonstrating an ability to judge the flight of the ball well, and has been an anchor in defence for the Ranges all season. He takes good defensive marks and isn’t afraid to use the ball by foot with his kicking efficiency above average for key talls. He has quite good agility, and often is the start of a chain of possession that result in a score at the other end.
Pick 41: St Kilda – Keenan Ramsay
Position: Key defender/forward
Height: 193 cm, Weight: 86 kg, DOB:
Club: Port Adelaide
Projected draft range: 40-rookie
Plays like: Lachie Henderson
Brenton Phillips’ move to make Keenan Ramsey South Australia’s number one key defender proved to be a masterstroke. After a move that created the unlikeliest of heroes, Ramsey can find himself very stiff to be overlooked as the All-Australian full back after a flawless championships. Most would know Ramsey’s back story by now: retinal cancer at the age of two meant that his eye was removed and such he has a glass eye, but that hasn’t stopped him. Ramsey may lack peripheral vision, but if anything it makes him move his head more, opening up greater options and angles. It’s all Ramsey knows, which is why it seemingly hasn’t had an ounce of an effect on his football to date. Ramsey started up forward during his junior football at Port and last year kicked 16 goals from 11 games: however, a switch into defence unearthed a skill set that makes him Ramsay ever so valuable to a league side. In particular, Ramsey’s spoiling, his strength to kill a contest and an ability to make his opponent accountable has seen him develop into a real prospect. His defensive attributes are quite strong, given that he tackles well and isn’t a stranger for getting into a scrap. He’s a great mark, reading the ball well in flight and protecting the drop zone. He’s better suited at playing at centre half forward or back, mostly because he has foot skills that are good enough to find a team-mate further afield. He certainly could fill out further, and when he does his current skill set is only going to be enhanced. He does have a limited ceiling because he doesn’t possess huge closing speed, a massive leap or elite athleticism, but his goal kicking at the combine returned a perfect score.
Pick 62: Essendon – Brenton Payne
Position: Key forward
Height: 193 cm, Weight: 76 kg, DOB: 09/03/1996
Club: Western Jets
Projected draft range: 40-rookie
Plays like: Jake Carlisle
If the name sounds familiar, it’s because it is. Brenton Payne is the grandson of former Essendon 184-gamer Charlie Payne, who also played in both of Essendon’s 1963 and 165 premiership wins. In his own right, Brenton had a solid year for the Western Jets in the TAC Cup, bagging 18 goals whilst impressing at National Championship level, averaging one goal and 2.4 marks from 10 disposals. The elite endurance runner’s tank means he outworks and outlasts most defenders. Although light at just 76 kilograms, Payne is strong, loves to get into physical one-on-one scraps for the ball and has excellent closing speed, allowing him to burn his opponent off the mark. Defensively speaking, he’s accountable while also showing enough to suggest that he can be a versatile forward with his ability to clunk one-handed grabs: Payne averaged 5.6 marks per game at TAC Cup level this season. He has scope to become a handy swingman, with his defensive side also
Pick 19: Essendon – Tyler Keitel (end of first round compensation)
Position: Key forward/defender
Height: 194 cm, Weight: 80 kg, DOB: 07/02/1996
Club: East Perth
Projected Draft Range: 15-25
Plays Like: Taylor Walker
Super versatile, Tyler Keitel (pronounced ky-tel) showed signs in last year’s National Championships as a bottom-aged player that he had all the makings of becoming a first round pick this year. So far he looks like delivering on those predictions, especially since adding six kilograms to his 2013 playing weight and growing three centimetres. At 194 cm, Keitel has torn apart the WAFL Colts for East Perth, kicking 14 goals from six games thus far, however he’s shown scope in pushing down back where his physicality and discipline make him a great wild card in any coach’s arsenal. My big tick for Keitel is his cleanness overhead, particularly under pressure. He takes the ball at its highest point, and importantly has clean and safe hands at full extension on the lead. He understands how to use his body in a marking situation, and bodies up nicely to protect the drop of the ball. Keitel is the type of forward who can take a vintage pack mark, often clunking them when at times he looks out-positioned, and has that Hollywood swagger that makes him a real cult figure. He also doesn’t mind getting a bit higher up the ground in that true centre half forward role. In terms of his set shots, he has a clean and simple technique and with good delivery can really do justice on the scoreboard, however at the National Championships he has only kicked goals in one out of his three games so far. It’s quite probable Keitel could make a bolt up the draft order if he continues to have a big influence like he has at National Championship level. Currently from his three games, he is averaging 16.3 disposals at 70%, one goal, 7.3 marks and five contested possessions.
#34 Hawthorn - Sam Bevan (WA – KPF/KPD)
Height: 195cm, Weight: 80kg, DOB: 12/06/1996
Recruited from: Claremont
Style: Sam Reid
Player comparison:
Range: 30-rookie
Profile: A light body at this stage and a project player but has some talent. He’s for his size and type a very skilled key position player who uses it really well by foot. In front of goal he makes the most of his opportunities and rarely misses his set shot attempts. He’s a capable mark on the lead and excellent in the air but with his lack of size he’s not a 1v1 or contested marking threat at this point. Down back he’s a capable intercept mark reading it well and knowing when to peel off his man and can also play a reasonable shutdown role so he does have the scope to play at either end.
not a back but sounds alright
#37 Fremantle - Jesse Watchman (SA – KPF/Ruck)
Height: 196cm, Weight: 91kg, DOB: 28/01/1996
Recruited from: West Adelaide
Style:
Player comparison: Josh Walker
Range: 15-45
Profile: Watchman is a tall, big bodied key forward who can also play some minutes in the ruck if required. Watchman is a natural key forward who attacks the ball well and can take a contested grab. He’s strong 1v1 and can win the contests when isolated deep in the front half. He reads the flight consistently and gets to the drop of the ball better than most. He’s reliable in front of goal and is a real volume goalkicker who can provide some real scoreboard impact.
Pick 57: Port Adelaide – Sean McLaren
Position: Utility
Height: 197 cm, Weight: 92 kg, DOB: 10/01/1996
Club: Sandringham Dragons
Projected draft range: 40-rookie
Plays like: Lachie Keeffe
Sean McLaren’s two finals games were very impressive. He’s was an influential target up forward for Sandringham, whilst his tap work in the ruck has been a big reason the Dragons have dominated clearances through the finals series. The promising young key position prospect is raw in facets, but blessed in other areas. He has a terrific leap, is aggressive and marks very well. He has an element of excitement in his game, with has versatility to play at both ends of the ground and through the ruck incredibly valuable. When pitted against opposition talls, McLaren uses his long arms to spoil and reach around to kill the ball. He’s quite similar to Collingwood’s Lachie Keeffe, given that he is quite agile and athletic, has strong closing speed that often allows him to take defensive marks and is very clean at ground level. He has a good mix of size, speed and endurance and is now coming to terms that he can have a huge impact a game. McLaren was rated as a standout character during the AFL-AIS tour of Europe early in the year.
Pick 58: Sydney - Daniel Nielson
Position: Key defender
Height: 193 cm, Weight: 90 kg, DOG: 09/05/1996
Projected draft range: 50-rookie
Plays like: Jack Frost
One of the more underrated key defenders available in this year’s draft. Daniel Nielson is your typical close-checking defender with the ability to stop key forwards dead in their tracks. He plays a heavy negating role, and whilst he isn’t a big ball winner, he has exceptional closing speed and long limbs that allow him to spoil or take defensive marks. He’s quite combative in his role while also demonstrating an ability to judge the flight of the ball well, and has been an anchor in defence for the Ranges all season. He takes good defensive marks and isn’t afraid to use the ball by foot with his kicking efficiency above average for key talls. He has quite good agility, and often is the start of a chain of possession that result in a score at the other end.