Mega Thread 2014 Drafts complete

[Dez!]

Petracca and Brayshaw are big bodied competitive beasts who also happen to play elite footy. They are the most likely types to succeed at AFL level.

They shouldn't be compared to skinny lightweights, i.e. Watts, Scully, Morton, Gysberts, Toumpas (not writing off), Blease, as a reason why you've seen it all before and are just waiting for history to repeat. This is an entirely new ball game.

Getting Petracca and Brayshaw would be massive.

That and this time we've got proven coaches with history of developing young players.

 

[Meds]

Petracca v McCartin the new Watts v Naitanui?

 

[SuburbanMe]

They'd be absolutely locked in to Petracca.

That's what my friends that follow the saints are saying.

 

[youngbear]

Petracca v McCartin the new Watts v Naitanui?

At least this time its on someone else. If the Saints pick the better player than it's because they should.

 

[ExTasDeeMan]

Like when we got Scully and Trengove...

Don't forget McLean and Sylvia as well.

 

[booshboy]

Whichever way it goes. How bloody good is it that we are getting TWO players that could both easily be worthy of going at number 1. I love you James Frawley.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Scully and Trengove = both talented mids with plenty of upsides, but also very raw physically (Trengove less so).

Brayshaw and Petracca are much more physically developed and more likely to make the grade (best 22) at the very least. Whether they're more or less talented or have higher or lower ceilings I don't know enough to say, but they'll be picked less for their athletic ability (speed and/or endurance for Scully and Trengove, as well as Trengove's good aerial skills) and more for genuine output on the back of being more AFL ready than the 2009 two. Scully and Trengove were probably rated higher for leadership too.

And the best thing is we won't be rounding out Petracca and Brayshaw with Gysberts...

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Also I'm really just glad that the Petracca v McCartin decision is out of our hands. If whoever goes no.1 turns out better at least we won't cop as much drivel from the herds on the main board.

 

[wowlace]

Like when we got Scully and Trengove...

Exactly. I guess you will be happy when we **** up another two mids right?

 

[Blackas87]

Whichever way it goes. How bloody good is it that we are getting TWO players that could both easily be worthy of going at number 1. I love you James Frawley.

We could be picking up the next Cale Morton and Lucas Cook

 

[wowlace]

We could be picking up the next Cale Morton and Lucas Cook

Geez another one. This board is full of defeatists.

Draft picks are our only option to improve, no one good wants to play for us as displayed by the trade period. Frawley left and we do what we can with the pick. ****ing get over it.

 

[Cannon82]

We could be picking up the next Albert Einstein and Margaret Thatcher.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

We could be picking up the next Albert Einstein and Margaret Thatcher.

The next B1 and B2.

 

[RandB]

What if they have the "evil gene" like Hitler, Walt Disney and Freddy Quimby?

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

It's going to be such an anti-climax if the Saints just take Petracca now.

 

[booshboy]

It's going to be such an anti-climax if the Saints just take Petracca now.

I legitimately can't decide which one I'd prefer

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Trengove was about as sure a thing as you can get in the draft, tough inside midfielder and a natural footballer who was playing great footy against men.

It's fair to say he was more advanced then either Petracca or Brayshaw.

Unfortunately, injuries are shit.

 

[d33my]

The Scully Trengove comparison is apt because it alludes to the fact that nothing is a sure thing. Nobody is saying that Petracca and Brayshaw aren't readier footballers or that our club isn't in a better position; it's a reminder that nothing is a sure thing. The hype on this board is v similar to the Scullgove days too.

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[Demon 16]

The Scully Trengove comparison is apt because it alludes to the fact that nothing is a sure thing. Nobody is saying that Petracca and Brayshaw aren't readier footballers or that our club isn't in a better position; it's a reminder that nothing is a sure thing. The hype on this board is v similar to the Scullgove days too.

I agree with everything you've said except for the hype bit.

I think we're being far, far more sensible and cautious about it this time.

 

[RandB]

I find the Scully analogy interesting in this debate.

On one hand he hasn't progressed in a highly competitive youth squad as expected yet on the other hand he was apparently going so bad at Melbourne that he was forcibly poached for a million a year by the AFL and an expansion club.

Nothing wrong I might add with remembering there are no guarantees in the draft but its a pretty basic tenet at the end of the day.

The hype might be off the mark but the prospect is exciting none the less.

 

[d33my]

Yeah I'm not saying people don't have a right to be excited, of course they do and I am too. Just pointing something out to those who dismissed B_C's comment straight away

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[CWaffles]

What if they have the "evil gene" like Hitler, Walt Disney and Freddy Quimby?

You literally just destroyed my childhood in one sentence.

 

[Trav 20]

Yeah I'm not saying people don't have a right to be excited, of course they do and I am too. Just pointing something out to those who dismissed B_C's comment straight away

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I think we're fully aware that there are no rolled gold certainties. Equally we're aware of the type of players more likely to succeed. And sometimes you have to back your eyes.

I'm also in the camp that believes Trengove's navicular is the reason he became slow as treacle and otherwise would be a fine player.

 

[Ando727]

no one good wants to play for us as displayed by the trade period.

Maybe that's starting to shift. Bernie Vince was happy to come - and he's good. Daniel Cross. Dom Tyson and Sam Frost agreed to be traded here. Harry O, Jeff Garlett. It's not all bad news. The tide has to turn for us eventually.

 

[CWaffles]

Talk on SEN was that maybe Alan Richardson has overruled their recruiting department and told them to go out and get McCartin, who would have the final say in all of this if the coach and recruitment team want someone different?