List Mgmt. 2014 List Management Resource Thread - now with friendly poll!

[NTRabbit]

Once again, a summary of all our incomings, outgoings, and other list and football department changes, sadly once again able to be posted before the finals begin.

As ever, there are and will be respective threads to discuss who we want in trade, FA and at each draft selection. Use those and participate! Don't be afraid to tell Vader no you're a pecking order, suggest Drugs Are Bad Mackay? is not taking the advice of his own nickname, query Elite Crow over whether he can even spell football, be like Elder van Berlo and helpfully correct my draft order every few minutes after I just finished typing all the numbers out again, and just generally ask Sanders for advice on anything that's troubling you

2014 Drafting and Trading chat
First round selection chat
Delisting chat
New coach chat

All Departures (to)
Jason Porplyzia (Retired)
Ben Rutten (Retired)
Angus Graham (Delisted)
Lewis Johnston (Delisted)
Shawn McKernan (Delisted)
Jared Petrenko (Delisted)
Luke Thompson (Delisted)
Rookies (to)
James Battersby (Delisted)
Alex Spina (Delisted)
Draft picks (to)
10 (Geelong)
31 (Hawthorn)
47 (Geelong)
50 (Hawthorn)
68 (Hawthorn)
Football Department Staff (to)
Brenton Sanderson (Head Coach, Contract terminated)
Peter Jonas (Assistant Coach - Development, Contract not renewed)
Mark Bickley (Assistant Coach - Forward, Moved to marketing department)

Free Agency & Trade Arrivals (from)
Kyle Cheney (Hawthorn)
Luke Lowden (Hawthorn)
Draft Picks (from)
14 (Geelong)
35 (Geelong)
43 (Hawthorn)
47 (Hawthorn)
59 (Hawthorn)
Football Department Staff (from)
Phil Walsh (Head Coach, Port Adelaide)
Jarrod Cotton (Assistant Coach - Defense development, AFC SANFL side [part time])
Darren Glass (Assistant Coach [part time] - Leadership, West Coast [player])
Ryan O'Keefe (Assistant Coach - Development, Sydney [player])
David Teague (Assistant Coach - Forward, St Kilda)
Elevations (to)
Charlie Cameron (Senior list)

National Draft (from)
14. Jake Lever (Calder Cannons)
35. Harrison Wigg (North Adelaide)
43. Mitch McGovern (Claremont)
59. Harry Dear (Sandringham Dragons)
Preseason Draft (from)
-
Rookie Draft (from)
9. Reilly O'Brien (Calder Cannons)
27. Keenan Ramsey (Port Adelaide Magpies)
45. Anthony Wilson (Norwood)
International/Alternative Talent Rule (from)
-

Number Changes (previous, last owner)
6. Jake Lever (Thompson)
8. Mitch Grigg (38, Johnston)
15. Kyle Hartigan (41, Graham)
23. Charlie Cameron (42, Petrenko)
25. (Rutten)
35. Harrison Wigg (McKernan)
37. (Callinan)
38. Harry Dear (Grigg)
40. (Porplyzia)
41. Mitch McGovern (Hartigan)
42. (Cameron)
43. (Battersby)
46. (Spina)

National Draft Order (Final)
Round 1
1. St Kilda
2. Melbourne
3. Melbourne (Frawley compensation + Melbourne are pathetic fund)
4. GWS
5. Collingwood
6. GWS
7. GWS
8. Gold Coast
9. Collingwood - F/S Darcy Moore
10. Geelong
11. West Coast
12. Richmond
13. Fremantle
14. Adelaide
15. Gold Coast (Ontraded Ablett GCFC compensation)
16. North Melbourne
17. Essendon
18. Sydney - AS Isaac Heeney
19. Carlton

Compensation
20. Essendon (drug cheats)
21. St Kilda (Ontraded Brennan GCFC compensation)

Round 2
22. St Kilda
23. GWS
24. GWS - AS Jack Steele
25. North Melbourne
26. Western Bulldogs
27. Western Bulldogs (Higgins compensation)
28. Carlton
29. Gold Coast
30. Collingwood
31. Hawthorn
32. West Coast
33. Richmond
34. Fremantle
35. Adelaide
36. North Melbourne
37. Sydney
38. Sydney - AS Jack Hiscox
39. Bulldogs (Malceski compensation)
40. Melbourne

Round 3
41. St Kilda
42. Melbourne - F/S Billy Stretch
43. Adelaide
44. Brisbane - AS Liam Dawson
45. Western Bulldogs
46. Western Bulldogs
47. Geelong
48. Collingwood
49. Hawthorn (Ontraded Fraser GCFC compensation)
50. Hawthorn
51. West Coast
52. Richmond
53. Melbourne
54. Fremantle
55. Geelong
56. North Melbourne
57. Port Adelaide
58. Sydney
59. Adelaide

Important Dates

Friday August 1, by 2pm -Draft-eligible Academy player nominations lodged

Friday October 3 - NAB AFL restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period begins

Friday October 3, by 2pm -NAB AFL father/son bidding nominations; Academy bidding nominations lodged with AFL

Monday October 6, 10am -Father/son and Academy players bidding meeting; NAB AFL Trade Period begins

Monday October 13, at 5pm -Close of NAB AFL restricted free Agency offer and unrestricted free agency period

Thursday October 16 -NAB AFL restricted free agency matching offer three-day period ends

Friday October 17, at 2pm -NAB AFL Trade Period closes

Friday October 31, by 2pm -List lodgement (1); Rookie promotion to primary list; Retained second and third-year rookies; Scholarship players; Alternate talent player nominations, Total player payment (TPP) estimates.

Saturday November 1 -NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) begins

Wednesday November 12 -NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) closes; Out of contract listed AFL primary list players draft nomination form and player request for removal from list form Lodged with AFL; New or expired (after three years) draft nomination form lodgement.

Thursday November 13, by 2pm -List lodgement (2).

Friday November 14 -AFL delisted player free agency period (2) begins

Wednesday November 19 -Delisted primary list draft nomination form lodgement; Non–retained rookie players draft nomination form lodgement; Players not registered or played for three years rookie nomination. NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (2) closes

Thursday November 27 - NAB AFL Draft selection meeting (Gold Coast Convention Centre).

Friday November 28- NAB AFL delisted free agency Period (3) begins

Monday December 1- AFL delisted player free agency period (3) ends. AFL club list lodgement (3) and TPP estimates. International players inclusion on rookie list form; Scholarship players rookie list form lodged; Father/son and Academy pre-selected rookie nominations.

Wednesday December 3 - NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft selection meeting (11am); Notification of pre-selected rookies nominated on Monday November 25 if not selected in the pre-season draft (11.05am);NAB AFL Rookie Draft selection meeting (11.10am)

Monday December 5– Final club list lodgement

Friday December 12, by 2pm- International players inclusion on rookie list

 

[Elite Crow]

I'm honored and affended

 

[Elder van Berlo]

Gold Coast will eventually get the pick after Geelong's first rounder. No need for an extra space in there though because Essendon have no first round pick.

Essendon pick 19
GWS 20
Both end of first round compo picks.

One less space for finalists in the second round, as Essendon have no pick.

And Gold Coast have the pick after Collingwood's third rounder.

 

[Elite Crow]

Essendon pick 19
GWS 20

Both end of first round compo picks.

How those drug cheats get pick 19 is a disgrace

 

[Bailey01]

See you put a lot of effort into starting this thread. Top effort

 

[Schulzycrow]

Would be good if we can snag another pick or two in the top 30 somehow...
Great work Rabbit btw.

 

[Elder van Berlo]

I live to serve NTRabbit
Excellent job!

 

[Sanders]

So tell me, was your relationship with your mother a happy one? Was she distant or did you not receive enough physical reassurance and comfort. How has this affected you in later life, are there patterns you feel you are destined to repeat

What would you like to say her if you could?

 

[radiojake]

And Gold Coast have the pick after Collingwood's third rounder.

what is that one for?

 

[Elder van Berlo]

what is that one for?

No idea. Josh Fraser perhaps?

Edit: yep, Collingwood's compensation for Josh Fraser, traded to Gold Coast via West Coast.

m.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-25/suns-eagles-trade-picks

 

[spenze]

How those drug cheats get pick 19 is a disgrace

Don't be too harsh, this year will be the first time the draft goes to round 35

 

[Vooligan]

Subscribed! Great thread to keep track of it all. Hopefully updated with some decent players.

Thanks for the effort Rabbit.

 

[The19thMan]

Lyons ===> Carlton
Pick 26 ==> Adelaide

Please and thanks.

 

[Bacon8]

I like this thread.

I'm right on top of it myself, but it's nice to confirm the same thing.

Can someone clarify something for me? All the articles about Suns delisting have said "down to 38, in line with other AFL clubs", yet 13 clubs had 40 main-listed players last year (inc GC). Is the 38 something all clubs have to drop to, or is the writer making an error regarding list space? I'm assuming the latter. (or veterans somehow)

 

[Hank93]

It's probably 38+ veterans

 

[Bacon8]

I'm honored and affended

I assume that was on purpose.

Lots of stories that there will be a number of f/s & academy kids being bid on this year (only Freeman was academy last year, I think). Heeney is the big one I think.

 

[Elite Crow]

I assume that was on purpose.

Lots of stories that there will be a number of f/s & academy kids being bid on this year (only Freeman was academy last year, I think). Heeney is the big one I think.

No Bakin I was serious

 

[Elder van Berlo]

I like this thread.

I'm right on top of it myself, but it's nice to confirm the same thing.

Can someone clarify something for me? All the articles about Suns delisting have said "down to 38, in line with other AFL clubs", yet 13 clubs had 40 main-listed players last year (inc GC). Is the 38 something all clubs have to drop to, or is the writer making an error regarding list space? I'm assuming the latter. (or veterans somehow)

Which clubs don't have 40? And how many do they have?

 

[Mattrox]

Which clubs don't have 40? And how many do they have?

Sydney has 38 main list players to manage Cap pressure.

 

[Bacon8]

Which clubs don't have 40? And how many do they have?

GWS have less than allowed (46. They are allowed 50)
Collingwood have 39.
Sydney, Carlton & Richmond have 38.

All have extra rookies to make it 44 (as per all other sides), except Carlton have 43.

 

[Sanders]

Sydney has 38 main list players to manage Cap pressure.

Er no. Sydney has 38 players so they can spend more on the top end

 

[Allefgib]

Er no. Sydney has 38 players so they can spend more on the top end

Plenty of good debates for you two without getting into semantics.

 

[Mattrox]

He forgot that the curtains were open and the lights were on and everyone can see in.

 

[Elder van Berlo]

Plenty of good debates for you two without getting into semantics.

It's a fine distinction but an important one I reckon. It's not like they've got to 38 on their list and said "oh s**t we've run out of cap space" and didn't get anyone else.

They have a deliberate strategy to pay more to their better players and sacrifice 2 spots on their list to do it.

That's about 5% of a list that they're not paying. It's crude maths/logic but add that to the COLA and they effectively get a bonus 15% to spend on players. Is it any wonder they're so strong.

I'd like to see us do the same.

 

[FR0GGY]

Is there a minimum number of players you have to have on a list?