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They don't even need top 2 to make the GF. If they come across Port or Geelong in a QF I'd back them to win, especially if they don't have injuries like they do now.
Nah, more likely failmantle will do what your avatar indicates they will do ;)
 

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Hilarious that the majority of their supporters were so bullish about making the GF this year.
They have played most of the top sides though, and had way more injuries than we have.

Still back them to finish top 4
 
Other than his first year when he won the rising star he just wasn't able to handle the extra attention.
he's cut us up a few times :( Seems a bit erratic/hungry though
 
Other than his first year when he won the rising star he just wasn't able to handle the extra attention.
Pearce relies on his teammates to give him space. At Port most of the time he was there we were shit and the players didn't do that. At Freo. he usually gets help, but lots of pressure today.

Though how do the Dockers fans in WA reconcile they are going ok with Lyon with they play a game style that makes you want to stick a fork in your eye? There's been plenty of defensive champion sides in the past (West Coast 92 and 94) worth watching, but success or not how can anyone say they enjoy their games?!
 
Pearce relies on his teammates to give him space. At Port most of the time he was there we were shit and the players didn't do that. At Freo. he usually gets help, but lots of pressure today.

Though how do the Dockers fans in WA reconcile they are going ok with Lyon with they play a game style that makes you want to stick a fork in your eye? There's been plenty of defensive champion sides in the past (West Coast 92 and 94) worth watching, but success or not how can anyone say they enjoy their games?!
They're even worse to watch without Walters, who is pretty entertaining. But yeah, agreed
 
Hilarious that the majority of their supporters were so bullish about making the GF this year.
The way they were puffing out their chests on the Bay, even after that most pathetic of GF performances..karma was sure to come back and give them an almighty push back into reality..one good year doesn't make a champion team. Most have disappeared now, only a few come on to make a bit of a show of it every now and then.
 
Lyon did very well to get a mediocre side (his words) to a Grand Final last year, covering for a lack of real talent with an uber-defensive gamestyle that turns players into automatons and blunts the effectiveness of the opposition through wave after wave of low skilled big bodied assaults.

It's a taxing style though, and with his now infamous lack of developing young talent, the Dockers will probably be set for a decade in the doldrums St Kilda style once their star trio retire, sadly forced to play out the end of their careers in a gameplan that doesn't allow individual talent to shine, and has taken the game to some of its lowest ever depths.

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Harsh but possibly elements of truth, I still think freo will be a top 6 side for another 2 or so years.
Who cares if they're top 6..as long as they don't win anything :D
 
Who cares if they're top 6..as long as they don't win anything :D
For 3 reasons

1. It's freo and they'll be insufferable
2. It'll validate Ross lyon's shit game style
3. It's freo
 
Lyon did very well to get a mediocre side (his words) to a Grand Final last year, covering for a lack of real talent with an uber-defensive gamestyle that turns players into automatons and blunts the effectiveness of the opposition through wave after wave of low skilled big bodied assaults.

It's a taxing style though, and with his now infamous lack of developing young talent, the Dockers will probably be set for a decade in the doldrums St Kilda style once their star trio retire, sadly forced to play out the end of their careers in a gameplan that doesn't allow individual talent to shine, and has taken the game to some of its lowest ever depths.

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Unlike Saints, Freo at least have some very good younger players
 
For 3 reasons

1. It's freo and they'll be insufferable
2. It'll validate Ross lyon's shit game style
3. It's freo
4. emptytrophycabinet.jpg..they have no plausible comeback to that :thumbsu:
 

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For 3 reasons

1. It's freo and they'll be insufferable
2. It'll validate Ross lyon's shit game style
3. It's freo
I've always felt that we let the rest of the league down in 2005 when we lost to Sydney. I wonder if the landscape of footy would've changed so much had Sydney not won that Grand Final. Would as many teams have adopted a defensive game style if no team had never won a flag with it? Would Paul Roos be considered a genius, messiah and the best coach in the AFL if he hadn't won a flag?
 
I've always felt that we let the rest of the league down in 2005 when we lost to Sydney. I wonder if the landscape of footy would've changed so much had Sydney not won that Grand Final. Would as many teams have adopted a defensive game style if no team had never won a flag with it? Would Paul Roos be considered a genius, messiah and the best coach in the AFL if he hadn't won a flag?

But no team has won a flag since with that style of ultra defensive game. Saints came close but they were ultimately beaten on the day by more attacking sides. Even Sydney's win in 2012 whilst still defensive was more attacking than their 2005/06 model

Hawthorn and Geelong have won 5 of the last 7 flags and they both play an attractive style. Collingwood won in 2010 on the back of manic pressure on the ball carrier to force turnovers and score on the rebound which they did heavily

Our legacy from that period was the importance of a dominant midfield and a dependable back 6
 
Interesting enough wasn't Ross Lyon one of the assistant coaches in 05/06 for Sydney?
pretty sure. Isn't that why Roos gets brought up in these conversations so much?

Still reckon Freo's style is flag worthy, they just have a D-grade forward line.
 
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