2014 SC Midfield Structure

[TheOz]

2-0-8 at the moment

I salute you, 3/0/7 is my limit. If there were more than one backline rookie assured of playing games early on, 4/0/6 would be the go but I don't trust Langford in getting a large run of games despite his preseason nor do I see Langdon scoring enough, I also an unsure of Brodie Martin or Laidler's job security so why risk it? Wish Lemmens was a back rookie like he should be, Rampe of 2014 I reckon.

You just need to really make sure that you nail all the midfield rookies and specifically, the premiums on the other lines.

 

[TheOz]

fail

Watch him take home the $50k!

 

[TheOz]

Why would you? Midfield is where the most points are generated from. Midfield premos are far better than any other positions. How could you possibly start with just 2 premos and the rest rookies? Yes the midfield rookies are far better than the forwards and defenders but there is no way you can rely on at least 6 of them to hold their spot each week and score 70+. Go with it if you want to be 'gutsy' but the facts are it just doesn't happen and it just doesn't work. Look at previous winners starting teams and not one of them has less than 4 premos to start.

Different circumstances this year, higher priced rookies, severe lack of forward and backline rookies with job security, a plethora of midfield rookies, the idea of a heavy mid rookie team has more than enough merit.

 

[domskiezzzzzz]

Different circumstances this year, higher priced rookies, severe lack of forward and backline rookies with job security, a plethora of midfield rookies, the idea of a heavy mid rookie team has more than enough merit.

2-0-8 though? Please

 

[TheOz]

2-0-8 though? Please

Yeh that's a bit too extreme for me, however I can see the reasoning behind it. 4/0/6 is ideal imo however the backline rookies (specifically their JS) scare me.

 

[borrat]

6-0-4 for me but that is using my idea of players who i think will breakout and become top 8 mids

 

[Shibada123]

Love it. Personally going 3-0-7 only because I can't bring myself to leave out Gablett, Pendles or Beams.

Who are your 2 premo's?

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Gablett, Pendles. I was going in with the same format last year but at the last minute put shuey M3 and it ruined my structure, I ended up around 20k. No last minute chopping and changing this year!

I have had beams at M3 but I didn't like the look of the other lines structures.

 

[Jiska]

Gutsy as!

Gutsy is not the right word

 

[Kadog]

A month ago I was set on 505, 514. The past few weeks my sides have been set on 406 but reading thru here I decided to do a mock 307 structure and I must admit, I really like the balance on paper.

As we all know, def/fwd rookies are scarce and causing many headaches as far JS/sub risk goes. A 406 mid structure usually means one of:

-A weak D4-6 eg: (Suckling, LMac, Laidler). A weak F6 (Rohan,BenKen) & risky R1 (Mumford, Ryder, Pyke, Lobbe, Jacobs) or
-A weak D5/6, weak F5/6, risky R1.
Not to mention bench cover strong enough to cover those risky positions (excl R3/4).

The ca$hi$h and better JS/avg are in the mids so in my mock side, I dropped an M4 premo > to add Michie again which I liked and was able to go 5 prem defence, gives me the set n forget ruck R1 and a 5 premo fwd set.
Yes, the midfield doesn't look as strong but with a plethora of mid rookies, there is cash to be made for upgrades. I like that you only have to focus on one line & only concentrate on selecting bench def/fwd rookies and NOT starters.
My weakest positions with this mock team are now LMac D6, Higgins F6 (I probably just lost a few of you with that one!) and starting a rookie Tyson M4 vs deleted prem. the rest are our stock std guys like Michie, Polec, Aish, XEllis, Dunston, Crouch, Cunningham, Robertson, Lemmons etc.

For the sake of adding 1-2 more prem mids to destabilise the entire team with question marks seems far more riskier than someone saying they're going 306. I'm still trying to convince myself to go this route but it's food for thought.

 

[Yoda_]

Going with premium defenders/forwards/rucks may give you a better spread elsewhere but the top notch points scorers are in the midfield.

Not picking 4+ premium midfielders means your starting behind the 8 ball.

 

[Kadog]

Going with premium defenders/forwards/rucks may give you a better spread elsewhere but the top notch points scorers are in the midfield.

Not picking 4+ premium midfielders means your starting behind the 8 ball.

Ok. Up to rd8 bye upgrades which combo scores avgs more points? All 3 teams have LMac & Higgins.

Ryder R1, Rockliff, LMac D5, Laidler D6, Higgins F5, McDoughnuts/Rohan/JKH F6 vs

Cox R1, Michie, Hurn D5, Pavlich F5 vs

Goldstein R1, Michie, Swallow D5, Pavlich F5.

One of those is a 406.

 

[tracygrimshaw]

I must be the only one going with 503-1216-112-512?

Will be a very interesting season!!

 

[Shibada123]

I must be the only one going with 503-1216-112-512?

Will be a very interesting season!!

Fairly similar. 5-0-3, 2-0-8, 1-1-2, 5-1-2

Going with the mid rookies due to the lack of rookies in the other lines. Last year there were clear standouts such as goodes, vlastuin, blivcas, neade, macaffer to name a few, this year I don't see nearly as many standouts.

 

[KardiniaPark]

I like my 5 premo midfield too much but with all these mid rookies it does have some merit.

I've tried 1000 different ways to get Murphy back in M5 but it completely ruins my structure. I refuse to go any less than him, I could get Daisy without too much pain but I have enough risks back and forward I don't need another one in the Mids.

I'm on 406 atm but I did have 505 earlier in the week. It did look very strong with Beams at M5 but I feel things are better balanced with the 406.

Agreed, as much as you'd like that fifth mid I just don't see it as a viable option. The extra price of the roookies this year have squashed the M5 Premium IMO.

2-0-8 at the moment

Would like to see your team, it would be interesting to say the least.

 

[Shibada123]

Would like to see your team, it would be interesting to say the least.

Forward line could change.

McVeigh, Mitchell, Hanley, Simpson, hurn, McDonald, Langford, georgiou
Gablett, pendles, Tyson, aish, Michie, polec, Ellis, Dunstan, crouch, robertson
Minson, Sandi, derickx, thurlow
Danger, Martin, roughead, gray, Pavlich, caddy, impey, jkh

 

[Jiska]

Forward line could change.

McVeigh, Mitchell, Hanley, Simpson, hurn, McDonald, Langford, georgiou
Gablett, pendles, Tyson, aish, Michie, polec, Ellis, Dunstan, crouch, robertson
Minson, Sandi, derickx, thurlow
Danger, Martin, roughead, gray, Pavlich, caddy, impey, jkh

Hmmm. I'd want a much better forward line than that with a 2-0-8 midfield.

Hurn to Webster.
Gray to Petrie, Impey to Higgins

 

[Shibada123]

Hmmm. I'd want a much better forward line than that with a 2-0-8 midfield.

Hurn to Webster.
Gray to Petrie, Impey to Higgins

Second year player nope, considering I have 2 kpfs I don't want a 3rd, you've never been burnt from the ultimate burn man? Also don't want that much money on the bench

 

[KardiniaPark]

A month ago I was set on 505, 514. The past few weeks my sides have been set on 406 but reading thru here I decided to do a mock 307 structure and I must admit, I really like the balance on paper.

As we all know, def/fwd rookies are scarce and causing many headaches as far JS/sub risk goes. A 406 mid structure usually means one of:

-A weak D4-6 eg: (Suckling, LMac, Laidler). A weak F6 (Rohan,BenKen) & risky R1 (Mumford, Ryder, Pyke, Lobbe, Jacobs) or
-A weak D5/6, weak F5/6, risky R1.
Not to mention bench cover strong enough to cover those risky positions (excl R3/4).

The ca$hi$h and better JS/avg are in the mids so in my mock side, I dropped an M4 premo > to add Michie again which I liked and was able to go 5 prem defence, gives me the set n forget ruck R1 and a 5 premo fwd set.
Yes, the midfield doesn't look as strong but with a plethora of mid rookies, there is cash to be made for upgrades. I like that you only have to focus on one line & only concentrate on selecting bench def/fwd rookies and NOT starters.
My weakest positions with this mock team are now LMac D6, Higgins F6 (I probably just lost a few of you with that one!) and starting a rookie Tyson M4 vs deleted prem. the rest are our stock std guys like Michie, Polec, Aish, XEllis, Dunston, Crouch, Cunningham, Robertson, Lemmons etc.

For the sake of adding 1-2 more prem mids to destabilise the entire team with question marks seems far more riskier than someone saying they're going 306. I'm still trying to convince myself to go this route but it's food for thought.

It's a fair point but not all of those expensive mids will work out, no doubt you'll have an injury/vest/low scoring problem with one or two. The problem is if you take every single one of them + the cheaper ones mentioned you will have nowhere to go because you'e spent all this money on other lines and you'll have to double up trades just to move them on if they aren't working out. I think 406 is the only way. I think 6 is plenty of chances to earn money in the mids. It should also give you sufficient cover and only have to play one rookie (McD) on the ground if you are smart with your midpricers FWD & BK. Like Higgins for example toxic

 

[KardiniaPark]

Hmmm. I'd want a much better forward line than that with a 2-0-8 midfield.

Hurn to Webster.
Gray to Petrie, Impey to Higgins

That messes up his guns and rookies though. Even though he's only 208 he's probably still got 13-14 keepers which is where you want to be. Get rid of 2 of them for safety reasons and it messes up the point of 208 imo.

 

[TheOz]

With a 3/0/7 structure I can eek out the following back 6 with a couple of fwd mid-pricers:

McVeigh, Mitchell, Hodge, Enright, Hurn, Swallow

Set and forget, no need to bother with backline rookies or the backline in general for the rest of the year.

 

[Jiska]

Second year player nope, considering I have 2 kpfs I don't want a 3rd, you've never been burnt from the ultimate burn man? Also don't want that much money on the bench

Pick different players then. Point still remains, terrible forward line for such a weak midfield. I'd want a 5-1-2 at minimum.

 

[Shibada123]

Pick different players then. Point still remains, terrible forward line for such a weak midfield. I'd want a 5-1-2 at minimum.

I think it is 5-1-2, what do you think it is?
5- danger, Martin, roughead, gray, Pavlich
1- caddy
2 (bench) impey, jkh

 

[Jiska]

I think it is 5-1-2, what do you think it is?
5- danger, Martin, roughead, gray, Pavlich
1- caddy
2 (bench) impey, jkh

A 400+ player is not a Premo. Trengrove, Rischetelli, Otten, Patful. No thanks.

Premo 500+
Mid 200-499
Rookie 0-199

 

[tracygrimshaw]

A 400+ player is not a Premo. Trengrove, Rischetelli, Otten, Patful. No thanks.

Premo 500+
Mid 200-499
Rookie 0-199

A fallen premo then?
Beams, Franklin, Sandilands, Pavlich..
What about a rookie who costs more than 200? Still a rookie... albeit an expensive one.
My point is starting price alone has no indication on if the player will be good enough to be in your team by the end of the year..

Also keep in mind 90 average is good enough to be a top 12 forward this year.

 

[Yoda_]

When dissecting your structure, surely we can maybe operate like this; ?

D 3 - 1 - 4
M 5 - 0 - 5
R 1 - 1 - 2
F 2 - 2 - 4

Allows easier reading IMHO