2014 Trade/FA Discussions

[Football Pope]

God help him.

Toumpas new nick....."Redgum"

 

[Tulip]

Completely understandable. Has had a bit of a rough start young Jimmy, hope he comes good

What would you be looking for Mitch Clark?

He's picked the Cats, so I'm hoping for pick 33. Similar sort of thing that you guys got for the go home 5, and you can draft a handy player around there if you're willing to develop. More than likely we'd trade it for Lumumba though.

When does his contract expire?

He took out the optional third year upon drafting, so next season.

Toumpas only 19 ?

My mistake, he's 20. Drafted the year before last.

 

[brizrider]

Toumpas new nick....."Redgum"

He's going home in June - why would trade for a guy going home in the middle of footy season?

 

[Lace Out]

Thanks, just looked it up- 21 in three months.

 

[Football Pope]

He's going home in June - why would trade for a guy going home in the middle of footy season?

Not sure.....I can still see Frankie, drinking tinnies in the Grand Hotel

 

[Tulip]

Thanks, just looked it up- 21 in three months.

No doubt he needs to improve next season. I don't have him in our best 22 if we can get floated deals for Frost, Lumumba, Varcoe and Merrett over the line (motley, I know).

 

[Dylan12]

The dude is 19, don't get sucked in by the media or some of our more negative fans.

He's tracking a bit behind where we wanted him, but how stupid would it be to trade a 19 year old pick 4 because he hasn't starred like the guy we were meant to pick up.

Toumpas is tracking remarkably similar to Polec in his time in Brisbane.

I'm not saying MFC will trade him, but I wouldn't at all be surprised if there is some consideration and that's not necessarily to us BTW.

On Micth Clark, SEN were saying early this morning that Varcoe as a straight swap could be a possibility...I have NFI on that the likliehood of that though.

 

[Tulip]

Toumpas is tracking remarkably similar to Polec in his time in Brisbane.

I'm not saying MFC will trade him, but I wouldn't at all be surprised if there is some consideration and that's not necessarily to us BTW.

I reckon we'd take a trade if it got us something good in return tbh. Difference between the two is that Toumpas really wants to stay and Polec wanted to leave. Good comparison on the field though, both look/ed not quite right.

 

[Crawb]

Merrett can play up front and we have a dire lack of experienced forwards - I'd only want to trade Merrett if it somehow involved us getting an early draft pick so we could nab McCartin/Wright in the draft (our early Pick is going to be tied to Beams...). Obviously Merrett for Pick #3 is no-where near enough however...

 

[Bucking Beads]

IMO Merrett is a fool if he goes to the Demons. Surely he can gain some interest from a team in the finals race.

 

[Ironmonger]

The Lions twitter feed is interesting today:

https://twitter.com/brisbanelions

Some comments from Schwab on trades, including:

• Aish is off the table - it'd be interesting to know if that was a response to a direct question. I hope so.
• Patfull is contracted but we don't have our head in the sand - it sounds like we're considering giving him his trade, at least from that quote

And a couple of retweeted pics of Liam Dawson testing at the combine.

 

[Ironmonger]

IMO Merrett is a fool if he goes to the Demons. Surely he can gain some interest from a team in the finals race.

I thought that too.

Maybe his number one priority is just to play regularly, wherever that is. He's probably right on the fringe of the 22 for us right now, which is probably motivating him to look around.

 

[Bucking Beads]

I think trading Patfull could be beneficial for us if we get a pawn to trade to the Pies and also get something to make us better as well.

 

[scoman]

Could cope with losing Merrett, but really don't want to lose Patfull. Not sure if either hold a great deal of currency either, would be a stretch to get a second or third round pick at their age.

Mind you the problem with keeping them is they would be retiring just as we try to make our charge at the finals, as will Staker and Magoune. Replacing two of those this year might not be the worst idea?

 

[Hollow Knight]

The Lions twitter feed is interesting today:

https://twitter.com/brisbanelions

Some comments from Schwab on trades, including:

• Aish is off the table - it'd be interesting to know if that was a response to a direct question. I hope so.
• Patfull is contracted but we don't have our head in the sand - it sounds like we're considering giving him his trade, at least from that quote

And a couple of retweeted pics of Liam Dawson testing at the combine.

Feels to me (and it could be hopeium) that the Patfull quote is saying "he isn't off the table but it would have to be a good offer".

 

[theteamtobeat]

Merrett can play up front and we have a dire lack of experienced forwards - I'd only want to trade Merrett if it somehow involved us getting an early draft pick so we could nab McCartin/Wright in the draft (our early Pick is going to be tied to Beams...). Obviously Merrett for Pick #3 is no-where near enough however...

Their's no way Merrett is the type of player for Melbourne to go out of their way to us a high pick. We have a better chance of getting Toumpas or any of their young guys by packaging our second round pick with Merrett.

 

[Crawb]

Their's no way Merrett is the type of player for Melbourne to go out of their way to us a high pick. We have a better chance of getting Toumpas or any of their young guys by packaging our second round pick with Merrett.

Do we need another bloody midfielder though? We need a talented KPF...

 

[ZoBlitz]

Moved the Academy/Father-Son discussion to the appropriate thread.

 

[whatboutbob]

Thought this thread (and the post about forwards) was about trading anyway.

Edit: Bloody mods.

 

[whatboutbob]

^thanks for leaving me hanging.

Bastards.

 

[dlanod]

^thanks for leaving me hanging.

Bastards.

I really want to move this to start a new thread now and really confuse matters/make bob look like an idiot.

 

[POBT]

Feels to me (and it could be hopeium) that the Patfull quote is saying "he isn't off the table but it would have to be a good offer".

Yeah but how quickly could that turn into Patfull saying "I've checked things out and now I demand a trade to the Swans/Giants"?

Then it will be us (well, not all of us!) talking up the resume of a departing player and scoffing at unders being offered by his club of choice.

The Patfull situation is really weird. I can't recall a trade scenario like it - where a club/player publicly admits that the player is happy to go or happy to stay and the club isn't really pushing a trade outcome.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Yeah but how quickly could that turn into Patfull saying "I've checked things out and now I demand a trade to the Swans/Giants"?

Then it will be us (well, not all of us!) talking up the resume of a departing player and scoffing at unders being offered by his club of choice.

The Patfull situation is really weird. I can't recall a trade scenario like it - where a club/player publicly admits that the player is happy to go or happy to stay and the club isn't really pushing a trade outcome.

Not to mention that his manager actually used the words "contract extension" in an interview. Still feels like that is a very possible end game

If so, the club's "we're keeping an open mind" stance could be calling his manager's bluff a little bit.

 

[whatboutbob]

Yeah but how quickly could that turn into Patfull saying "I've checked things out and now I demand a trade to the Swans/Giants"?

Then it will be us (well, not all of us!) talking up the resume of a departing player and scoffing at unders being offered by his club of choice.

The Patfull situation is really weird. I can't recall a trade scenario like it - where a club/player publicly admits that the player is happy to go or happy to stay and the club isn't really pushing a trade outcome.

It is hard to tell if it is really mature or immature.

Given the player and his character, I'm inclined to believe the former.

 

[POBT]

Not to mention that his manager actually used the words "contract extension" in an interview. Still feels like that a very possible end game

If so, the club's "we're keeping an open mind" stance could be calling his manager's bluff a little bit.

Yeah, I agree but then you have to wonder what is going on behind the scenes that caused the player/manager to run with this tactic.

I wonder if it is less about contract extension and more about - "hey, remember me? Two times Club Champion and all round nice guy. Never injured and rarely beaten. I wouldn't mind a bit of that Beams/Ryder cash you're flashing around at the moment."