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B.Hill was a much, much better runner than Weller is in their second years. B.Hill's combination of endurance and pace was what got him a game early on. Some of the stuff on this board about Weller is over the top IMO.
My memory is that Hill jr would burn himself out in a lot of his early games. Heaps of possessions for a quarter or a half and then he'd hit the wall. Maybe not an endurance thing, just learning how to be smart over 4 quarters.

One thing with young players is that when they go out to impress and get involved with possessions, its also up to the other players in the team to use them as an option rather than see them, ignore them, and look for the more senior player.
 
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So I was just having a look back at the profiles of our last two year's worth of draftees (we've done very well with ordinary picks I think!) and noticed Freo's write up on Uebergang it says "Matthew possesses terrific agility and speed, recording a 2.91 in the 20m sprint."

To put that time into perspective, Weller and Langdon both did the 20m in 2.92s. Surely that's a typo but thought I'd ask if any of the watchers had seen Ueber's speed being something like that?
 

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Pardon the intrusion, but as a Box Hill follower - how is Collins going so far?

I've trawled through most of the thread but havent seen much on the man yet.

Happy with him or a bit of work to do to make the grade at this early stage?

Great character!
I think he still has a bit of work to do but I could see him playing at some stage if we get injuries.
 

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I went down to training today in another long skill based session that focussed again on transition of the football and kicking skills. In an effort to provide some balance to the training reports thread I made an effort to look out for players who have been barely mentioned this preseason. I focussed on watching three of the new players Ueber, Nyhuis and Collins for an extended period.

Collins looked terrific in match sim and kicking activities. He was matched up on both Pav and Tabs at times and marked really well. He kicked the football brilliantly (much better than advertised) in numerous kicking drills to. Collins also spent time playing as a forward. 'Super impressive' would be the words I would use to describe him.

Both Ueber and Nyhuis were not out for all of the session but participated in multiple kicking drill activities. Nyhuis was partnered with the key defenders in marking drills. Im sticking by my comment he will play on both talls and smalls when he plays for Peel this year. Nyhuis possesses an excellent kicking technique as well. Low and flat is the trejectory of most of his kicks. Ueber moves bloody well. He showed outstanding speed to take a mark from a floating Barlow kick. His kicking technique is solid for a player of key position height. Of the three Collins would obviously be the most likely to play this year.

For what it is worth both Mayne and Barlow look significantly more mobile than a year ago. Mayne was actually outstanding today and kicked more goals than any of the other forwards by a country mile. His speed was very apparent, as was his safe hands on the lead. Barlow also seemed to be linking up play bloody well. His kicking was also excellent.

A much improved performer today was Tabs from what I saw. Collins kept up with him bloody well, but when matched up on Silvagni he showed terrific marking skills. He was definitely more one touch which is pleasing to see. Hannath again took some excellent marks and is continuing to show improvement in his movement.

Other notables for me were:
Suban looking bloody good after only recently returning to the main group. He had a couple of nice side steps around players.
Mzungu is heavily involved in play, but still struggles kicking around corners.
Blakey's kicking in the sessions this year has not been great. He seems to kick over the heads of players too often.
Spurr's kicking was again terrible with his play in match simulation.
De Boer kicks well short, but still can't make the distance from fourty metres out.
Ballas touch looks massively improved.
D.Pearce and C.Pearce are kicking the footy really well over distance. Both look super fit. D>pearce still makes mistakes kicking short.
Tucker is an excellent kick as said by others.
Dawson is doing a ton of kicking. His long kicking is actually pretty good.
Sandy ran a ton of laps. He looks primed for a good year.
Pav's touch is outstanding.
Langdon is going on some fantastic zig zagging runs in training. He butchered the ball a bit more than normal today.
Crozier is kicking the ball brilliantly. He had some excellent kicks to leading forwards. He is noticeably vocal and involved in sessions.
Neale dominating clearances. Missed a few targets today by foot.

The reports are getting a bit repetitive but Hill and Walters continue to look awesome and Hurley, Mora and Hughes look massively improved. Smith continues to struggle.Sumich continues to look lazy coaching.

The injury report situation is interesting. The injured players now come out at the end of the session.
I was wrong about Alex Pearce when I said I thought he wasn't injured. He came out at the end of the session with a bandage on his shins and jogged slow 100's. His body language though was excellent.
Apeness on the other hand looked uninterested, unmotivated and simply looked like he could not be bothered. Saying his body language was bad is like saying America might be in trouble if Trump gets elected as president. A huge, gigantic, massive understatement.
Bennell was spotted running in the gym. He again came out for a bit of a walk and kick.
Yarran was apparently out at the start of the session. I didnt see him.
Clarke is running more and more. He has definitely added size across the shoulders, but still has a bandage on the knee.
De Luca came out and kicked the footy. He seems to have improved his technique.
Unfortunately Balic still has a bandage on his injured wrist.
Fyfe was doing a combination of extended running and then completing push-ups. He spent time with Webber completing an activity where he braced for Webber pushing him.

Anyway, I hope this helps. The sessions appear highly, highly organised and focussed. The assistant coaches are running sessions brilliantly IMO. Anthony Rock gives a ton of feedback to the midfield players.
 
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Anyway, I hope this helps. The sessions appear highly, highly organised and focussed. The assistant coaches are running sessions brilliantly IMO. Anthony Rock gives a ton of feedback to the midfield players.
Awesome report sherrif, you are fast becoming my favourite training reporter. I hope you never get a job or a haircut, or are you already retired?
 
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Im on holidays for three more weeks.
Cool. Was just having a dig at those who think training watchers are all retired old farts or unemployed hippies :)

Your reports are excellent mate, we are lucky to have so many guys prepared to share their thoughts.
 

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Danny, I have seen all you sprightly young fellas over at the club rooms - makes me wish I was still 64 ;)
Hi guys
As one who has just qualified for the retired old farts group and intends to give a bit back to the readers by way of joining the intrepid reporters group can someone tell me the days and training times please.
I do my own gym classes on Tuesday and Thursday - not dead yet - so will have some limitations on time.
 
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Hi guys
As one who has just qualified for the retired old farts group and intends to give a bit back to the readers by way of joining the intrepid reporters group can someone tell me the days and training times please.
I do my own gym classes on Tuesday and Thursday - not dead yet - so will have some limitations on time.
DannyTheDoorman salim malik couldhavebeen
 

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Hi guys
As one who has just qualified for the retired old farts group and intends to give a bit back to the readers by way of joining the intrepid reporters group can someone tell me the days and training times please.
I do my own gym classes on Tuesday and Thursday - not dead yet - so will have some limitations on time.
Monday, Wednesday and Friday. The times vary but it's usually around 9-11:30.
 

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I hope E Shed and salim malik didn't read your post DD. ;)
Its OK ,Sherrif learnt all he knows from moi and E shed :rolleyes: Plus he is a good bloke and friend.:thumbsu:
I have nothing to add to Sherrif's excellent report.
Except Mora was bloody great again today.:)
 
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Hi guys
As one who has just qualified for the retired old farts group and intends to give a bit back to the readers by way of joining the intrepid reporters group can someone tell me the days and training times please.
I do my own gym classes on Tuesday and Thursday - not dead yet - so will have some limitations on time.
So Sailor Boy you joining up with us. Welcome aboard. salim malik I think is our longest serving guy and he covers Dockers pre-season training and provides regular reports on Peel Games (and he lives in Mandurah). Don't worry about Couldhavebeen as he doesn't get down that often compared to some of us which you can see from postings. The good reporters are salim malik ,E Shed, sherrif ,Fred Ziffel (with his lively comments) and jedi mind tricks when he is not pumping up Weller's tyres ha ha ha but there are others who contribute when they can.

Currently with Pre-season on we (but not all) attend the Mon Wed Fri sessions although we think the Rehab group of about 5-6 (it was 13 players in that group prior to Xmas) is also training on the other days as well but not for extended periods. On the Mon Wed & Fri the Rehab boys are coming out as the main group are completing their session.

Training can start anywhere between 8.30 am - 9.00 am but currently is mostly starting about 8.50 am with the players being required to be at the club by 7:00 am (need to get ankles/shoulders strapped and I think some eat breakfast there as well).

On Saturday (Generally the old dues don't go to that I certainly dont but may on a rare occasion) they train at about the same time but in the early part of pre-season a fair bit of the session was based on running only but of late they may do some other football specific stuff that incorporates running.
couldhavebeen might have some more info on the content of Saturday sessions of late.

The training today was the best I have seen all PS and it has a heavy emphasis on ball movement and being precise by hand or foot. See Sherrif's brilliant report on Today's session and Yes salim malik I also observed that Mora was great
 
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Pardon the intrusion, but as a Box Hill follower - how is Collins going so far?

I've trawled through most of the thread but havent seen much on the man yet.

Happy with him or a bit of work to do to make the grade at this early stage?

Great character!
Can you tell us more about him from your box hill days? What kind of player, position, aggressiveness?
 

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I went down to training today in another long skill based session that focussed again on transition of the football and kicking skills. In an effort to provide some balance to the training reports thread I made an effort to look out for players who have been barely mentioned this preseason. I focussed on watching three of the new players Ueber, Nyhuis and Collins for an extended period.

Collins looked terrific in match sim and kicking activities. He was matched up on both Pav and Tabs at times and marked really well. He kicked the football brilliantly (much better than advertised) in numerous kicking drills to. Collins also spent time playing as a forward. 'Super impressive' would be the words I would use to describe him.

Both Ueber and Nyhuis were not out for all of the session but participated in multiple kicking drill activities. Nyhuis was partnered with the key defenders in marking drills. Im sticking by my comment he will play on both talls and smalls when he plays for Peel this year. Nyhuis possesses an excellent kicking technique as well. Low and flat is the trejectory of most of his kicks. Ueber moves bloody well. He showed outstanding speed to take a mark from a floating Barlow kick. His kicking technique is solid for a player of key position height. Of the three Collins would obviously be the most likely to play this year.

For what it is worth both Mayne and Barlow look significantly more mobile than a year ago. Mayne was actually outstanding today and kicked more goals than any of the other forwards by a country mile. His speed was very apparent, as was his safe hands on the lead. Barlow also seemed to be linking up play bloody well. His kicking was also excellent.

A much improved performer today was Tabs from what I saw. Collins kept up with him bloody well, but when matched up on Silvagni he showed terrific marking skills. He was definitely more one touch which is pleasing to see. Hannath again took some excellent marks and is continuing to show improvement in his movement.

Other notables for me were:
Suban looking bloody good after only recently returning to the main group. He had a couple of nice side steps around players.
Mzungu is heavily involved in play, but still struggles kicking around corners.
Blakey's kicking in the sessions this year has not been great. He seems to kick over the heads of players too often.
Spurr's kicking was again terrible with his play in match simulation.
De Boer kicks well short, but still can't make the distance from fourty metres out.
Ballas touch looks massively improved.
D.Pearce and C.Pearce are kicking the footy really well over distance. Both look super fit. D>pearce still makes mistakes kicking short.
Tucker is an excellent kick as said by others.
Dawson is doing a ton of kicking. His long kicking is actually pretty good.
Sandy ran a ton of laps. He looks primed for a good year.
Fav's touch is outstanding.

The reports are getting a bit repetitive but Hill and Walters continue to look awesome and Hurley, Mora and Hughes look massively improved. Smith continues to struggle.Sumich continues to look lazy coaching.

The injury report situation is interesting. The injured players now come out at the end of the session.
I was wrong about Alex Pearce when I said I thought he wasn't injured. He came out at the end of the session with a bandage on his shins and ran slow 100's. His body language though was excellent.
Apeness on the other hand looked uninterested, unmotivated and simply looked like he could not be bothered. Saying his body language was bad is like saying America might be in trouble if Trump gets elected as president. A huge, gigantic, massive understatement.
Bennell was spotted running in the gym. He again come came out for a bit of a walk and kick.
Yarran was apparently out at the start of the session. I didnt see him.
Clarke is running more and more. He has definitely added size across the shoulders, but still has a bandage on the knee.
De Luca came out and kicked the footy. He seems to have improved his technique.
Unfortunately Balic still has a bandage on his injured wrist.
Fyfe was doing a combination of extended running and then completing push-ups. He spent time with Webber completing an activity where he braced for Webber pushing him.

Anyway, I hope this helps. The sessions appear highly, highly organised and focussed. The assistant coaches are running sessions brilliantly IMO. Anthony Rock gives a ton of feedback to the midfield players.

WoW !!! very impressive buddy keep up the hard work. A few questions:

- Should we see better marking and positioning and outplaying the defenders in one on one for Tabs?

- Whoose spot would Collins take?
 
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