List Mgmt. 2015 AFL Draft - what type of players should we be looking at & who do we take? (Poll added)

Who would you select with our first round pick?

  • Joshua Schache (VIC – KPF)

    Votes: 57 12.8%
  • Jacob Weitering (VIC – KPD)

    Votes: 349 78.3%
  • Aaron Francis (SA – DEF/FWD)

    Votes: 6 1.3%
  • Charlie Curnow (VIC – KPF/MID)

    Votes: 9 2.0%
  • Kieran Collins (VIC – KPD)

    Votes: 6 1.3%
  • Ryan Clarke (VIC – MID/FWD)

    Votes: 7 1.6%
  • Darcy Parish (VIC – MID/DEF)

    Votes: 6 1.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 6 1.3%

  • Total voters
    446
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Would you guys bid on Mills at 1? Really interesting scenario where you'd rather have Weitering obviously, but Sydney really can't not match - they would much rather have Mills than all those picks in the 40s.
Would put them into points deficit, and push all their other picks to the end of the draft.

Anyway, interesting scenario.
And how does Carlton actually benefit from bidding on Mills at 1?
 

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No arguments here; luckily for us we may just be in a position to take both ;)
Well then, that would be an interesting proposition.

If you have a look at an article in the online HUN from yesterday, Josh Dunkley may be available to us at #19 if he doesn't want to be listed as a F/S choice for the Swans.

If this was the case, then there may be a altering of the plan in regards to who the club went for (talls V mids).

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...y/news-story/59c95f25db43b74f4c5b910f7eab6a0f

But the Tigers have told Dunkley that is unlikely, given pick 12 is considered too early and Dunkley will be gone by their next pick, No. 51.

“That was a kick in the guts,” Dunkley said last night after he was medically examined by most clubs and asked to complete sprinting, agility and jumping tests.

Carlton likes the meticulous leader and Gippsland Power captain at pick 19 — the selection the Blues received from Richmond in the Chris Yarran trade — but only if their preferred players are gone.
 

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Would you guys bid on Mills at 1? Really interesting scenario where you'd rather have Weitering obviously, but Sydney really can't not match - they would much rather have Mills than all those picks in the 40s.
Would put them into points deficit, and push all their other picks to the end of the draft.

Anyway, interesting scenario.
Give Sydney a reason to screw us over in future drafts and piss off AFL HQ at the same time. No thanks.
 

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And how does Carlton actually benefit from bidding on Mills at 1?
That's just it, they don't !!

However, if the Swans don't match the bid then we would have to take him and lose Weitering in the process. There would be a riot at Princes Park within the hour.
 

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IF they're the players we like, wouldn't we be more likely to pick Burton before Collins, as I don't think Adelaide would be as likely to pick Collins as Burton?
I think I've asked you before but

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And how does Carlton actually benefit from bidding on Mills at 1?
That's just it, they don't !!

However, if the Swans don't match the bid then we would have to take him and lose Weitering in the process. There would be a riot at Princes Park within the hour.
If the Swans match, every pick they have between 1 and 72 goes off the board to move them up to pick 1, effectivel removing 4 picks in front of our picks 59 and 60, which become picks 55 and 56. If they didn't match, we'd still get one of the two best players in the draft IMO.

So there is an advantage to doing it, but Weitering helps our list more than Mills, at least in theory. Melbourne will probably have a crack at Mills and Hopper, anyway, which should shuffle at least 2 live picks out of our way, if not three.

The further our 4th round picks move up the numerical order, the more they're worth against a bid on SOS.
 

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In the brief bit of the highlights he also has a bit of Roughy about him in the way he moves. Looks a bit of a 'lumberer' but seems to have good ground skills.

Does he have a bit of mongrel in him ??
None. I really hope for the kid's sake he does well. He's just not a good selection for us. Highlights don't show his weaknesses. He never gets the ball. He's just a gamble. You can convince yourself he has upside but he's a total gamble. The obvious retort is "they are all gambles". There's putting $50 on red or black (that's Oliver or Francis). Then there's putting $50 on 1-18 on the roulette wheel (that's Curnow or Weideman). Then there's putting $50 on number 5. That's McKay. Really hope the ball lands on 5 for his sake and whoever picks him.
 

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That's all very well...I'm still not sure that your respected opinion and video evidence should be taken over my gut feel. I feels it in me waters Zee.
In that vimeo site there's another game (Vic Country trial) with McKay in it. Watch that folks then convince yourselves he's worth 8.
 

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Todays list:

1. Weitering
8. Curnow
11. Gresham
19. B. McKay
Feeling this to be the most realistic tbh.

Curnow could be interchangeable with Weideman... as you'd suspect one of the two is likely to slide.

Gresham IMO is a great all rounded midfielder that would do well in our current set up. Not particular flashy but wouldn't have a decreased effect in a poorer team.. As I'd assume Milera would.
 

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There are a couple of anomalies through the AFL's points system.
No biggie but odd how in this case it's jumping by 11, goes to 12 and then hops back to 11 from 61 to 62. It's not the only place either.
 

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I ******* love this - would be realistically achievable and seems to have little risk.

Would make me very, very happy!!!
#1, #11 and #19 in that scenario are more than realistic.

It's hoping Curnow or Weideman are available at #8.

Would be a dream.


Until they turn out spuds in a few years.
 

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If the Swans match, every pick they have between 1 and 72 goes off the board to move them up to pick 1, effectivel removing 4 picks in front of our picks 59 and 60, which become picks 55 and 56. If they didn't match, we'd still get one of the two best players in the draft IMO.

So there is an advantage to doing it, but Weitering helps our list more than Mills, at least in theory. Melbourne will probably have a crack at Mills and Hopper, anyway, which should shuffle at least 2 live picks out of our way, if not three.

The further our 4th round picks move up the numerical order, the more they're worth against a bid on SOS.
So if the Swans match, our picks 59 and 60 become 55 and 56 and presumably other teams will benefit by this and move up by 4 picks. If the Swans don't match we take Mills, and miss out on Weitering.

So we risk not getting Weitering for Mills just to move up 4 spots for picks 59/60, and in the process other teams risk nothing get to move up 4 spots.......**** that. No deal.
 
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