Opinion 2015 AFL Ladder

[Wild Bill]

This topic should be in the list threads: I have them in groups:

Tier 1 - Swans, Port and Hawks
Tier 2 - Cats, Roos, Tigers and Freo
Tier 3 - Suns, Pies, Crows and Ess
Tier 4 - WCE, Bris, GWS and Blues
Tier 5 - Dogs, Dees and Saints.

Most will finish in their Tier but the order may change!!

1) Swans

2) Hawks

3) Port

4) Cats

5) Roos

6) Richmond

7) Freo

8) Ess

9) Suns

10) Crows

11) Pies

12) WCE

13) Bris

14) GWS

15) Blues

16) Dogs

17) Melbourne

18) Saints

 

[bffl]

Saying cox is a loss and abc line is poor for the eagles is hilarious.

 

[Wild Bill]

Saying cox is a loss and abc line is poor for the eagles is hilarious.

If Nic nat misses games their midfield won't touch it.

 

[bffl]

If Nic nat misses games their midfield won't touch it.

Lycett is a very good young player.

 

[Wild Bill]

Lycett is a very good young player.

So you have WCE a lot higher? Post a ladder.

 

[Dredd]

1) Swans

2) Hawks

3) Crows

4) Port

5) Roos

6) Geelong

7) Freo

8) Richmond
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9) Suns
10) West Coast
11) Essendon
12) GWS
13) Collingwood
14) Brisbane
15) Blues
16) Dogs
17) Demons
18) Saints

EDIT: gonna get crucified for having crows at 3rd. Oh well..

 

[SickQwon]

15) Blues - really tough year coming up for Carlton. Little midfield depth and weak KPP they are going to struggle.

Kruezer, Warnock, Wood, Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, Thomas, Simpson, Everitt, Walker, Curnow, Bell, Curnow, Yarren, Graham, Cripps, Whiley, Boekhorst, Holman and Menzel have all played in the midfield

 

[Wild Bill]

Kruezer, Warnock, Wood, Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, Thomas, Simpson, Everitt, Walker, Curnow, Bell, Curnow, Yarren, Graham, Cripps, Whiley, Boekhorst, Holman and Menzel have all played in the midfield

Ok maybe you have depth - it is just that it is really poor.

 

[Big Fresh]

1. Hawthorn
2. Port Adelaide
3. Fremantle
4. Sydney
5. Gold Coast
6. North Melbourne
7. Essendon
8. Geelong
9. GWS
10. Adelaide
11. West Coast
12. Richmond
13. Brisbane
14. Collingwood
15. Melbourne
16. Carlton
17. Bulldogs
18. St Kilda

 

[Mitchell54]

Kruezer, Warnock, Wood, Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, Thomas, Simpson, Everitt, Walker, Curnow, Bell, Curnow, Yarren, Graham, Cripps, Whiley, Boekhorst, Holman and Menzel have all played in the midfield

That is not genuine depth. not all of them have played a few games.

Thomas plays half forward doesn't he?

have all played in the midfield

They have played in midfield so does that mean I could have Spangher, Roughead, Bruest, Birchall, Gunston and Suckling in Hawthorns midfield depth. If not why man, according to you they're allowed.

 

[MightyDons4]

That is not genuine depth. not all of them have played a few games.

Thomas plays half forward doesn't he?



They have played in midfield so does that mean I could have Spangher, Roughead, Bruest, Birchall, Gunston and Suckling in Hawthorns midfield depth. If not why man, according to you they're allowed.

At least he listed midfielders, not KPP's >.>

 

[Ashton Agar]

Kruezer, Warnock, Wood, Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, Thomas, Simpson, Everitt, Walker, Curnow, Bell, Curnow, Yarren, Graham, Cripps, Whiley, Boekhorst, Holman and Menzel have all played in the midfield

The fact they can play minutes in the midfield doesn't make them any good.

If you want to go by that, everyone has good midfield depth. We aren't talking about the numbers, we are talking about the quality.

 

[TN25]

Kruezer, Warnock, Wood, Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, Thomas, Simpson, Everitt, Walker, Curnow, Bell, Curnow, Yarren, Graham, Cripps, Whiley, Boekhorst, Holman and Menzel have all played in the midfield

Kruezer - Injury prone
Warnock - Average at best
Wood - Wins games for Fremantle
Judd - Past his use by date
Murphy - Soft captain
Gibbs - Good player
Thomas - Got him as the final piece in the puzzle. How's he going?
Simpson - Good player
Everitt - Hack
Bell - He can bumb. What else can he do?
Curnow - No good
Graham - Looks half decent but barely played
Cripps - What's he shown so far?
Whiley - A long haired yahoo
Boekhorst - Picked far to early. You are trying to do the same thing with Thomas. Get the final piece, but the puzzle needs to be started over again
Holman - Played 1 game

 

[Mitchell54]

At least he listed midfielders, not KPP's >.>

Roughead has played in ruck. Spangher has played Ruck.

They HAVE played ruck, apparently they only have had to have played ruck or mid.

 

[MightyDons4]

Roughead has played in ruck. Spangher has played Ruck.

They HAVE played ruck, apparently they only have had to have played ruck or mid.

Sam Rowe has played in the ruck yet he didn't list him as a midfielder, so what's your point?

 

[mightynineteen]

Sam Rowe has played in the ruck yet he didn't list him as a midfielder, so what's your point?

Spangler fair enough, but Roughead does occasionally go into the midfield. He does quite well there,.

 

[MightyDons4]

Spangler fair enough, but Roughead does occasionally go into the midfield. He does quite well there,.

Yeah but Roughy is good anywhere you play him

 

[razaxp360]

1. Sydney
2. Fremantle
3. Port Adelaide
4. Hawthorn
5. North Melbourne
6. Geelong
7. Adelaide
8. Essendon
9. Golcoast
10. Westcoast
11. Collingwood
12. GWS
13. Brisbane
14. Richmond
15. Carlton
16. Western Bulldogs
17. Melbourne
18. St kilda

 

[12Chill]

#1: Hawthorn Hawks
#2: Port Adelaide Power
#3: Sydney Swans
#4: North Melbourne Kangaroos
#5: Fremantle Dockers
#6: Gold Coast Suns
#7: Geelong Cats
#8: Richmond Tigers
#9: Essendon Bombers
#10: Adelaide Crows
#11: West Coast Eagles
#12: Collingwood Magpies
#13: GWS Giants
#14: Brisbane Lions
#15: Western Bulldogs
#16: Carlton Blues
#17: Melbourne Demons
#18: St Kilda Saints

 

[Mitchell54]

Yeah but Roughy is good anywhere you play him

Yeah, That's my point. He is a bit of a utility player so plays ruck and midfield occasionally.

 

[Sunners]

1. Hawthorn
2. Port Adelaide
3. Sydney
4. North Melbourne
5. Gold Coast
6. Richmond
7. Essendon
8. Adelaide
9. Geelong
10. Fremantle
11. Brisbane
12. Collingwood
13. West Coast
14. GWS Giants
15. Western Bulldogs
16. Carlton
17. Melbourne
18. St Kilda
I think Hawthorn v Port grand final. Judgement reserved on 2015 premiers but believe 3-8 will bow out in the respective week the finishing position signifies (i.e. 3rd in prelim week, 8th in first week). I think there are four brackets of teams. Hawthorn & Port first, Sydney second, then third all teams 4th to 13th, then the bottom 5.

 

[noloyaltylol]

1. Sydney
2. Hawthorn
3. North Melbourne
4. Port Adeliade
5. Carlton
6. Geelong
7. Adeliade
8. Fremantle
9. Brisbane
10. Gold Coast
11. Richmond
12. Collingwood
13. Essendon
14. West Coast
15. GWS Giants
16. Western Bulldogs
17. Melbourne
18. St Kilda

people are far too easily writing off adeliade and carlton, do so at your own peril

 

[timtamWB]

1. Sydney
2. Hawthorn
3. North Melbourne
4. Port Adeliade
5. Carlton
6. Geelong
7. Adeliade
8. Fremantle
9. Brisbane
10. Gold Coast
11. Richmond
12. Collingwood
13. Essendon
14. West Coast
15. GWS Giants
16. Western Bulldogs
17. Melbourne
18. St Kilda

people are far too easily writing off adeliade and carlton, do so at your own peril

1. It's Adelaide.
2. What in the blue hell makes you think Carlton will finish 5th??? You could maybe, at a stretch, suggest them for the finals. But 5th, knocking on the top 4? Not a chance in hell.

 

[noloyaltylol]

1. It's Adelaide.
2. What in the blue hell makes you think Carlton will finish 5th??? You could maybe, at a stretch, suggest them for the finals. But 5th, knocking on the top 4? Not a chance in hell.

Thought it was spelled wrong, I just copied and pasted from someone elses ladder tbh

I just believe that Carlton have the talent to get them there. 5th is maybe a stretch as like you said it is knocking on the top four and I don't think Carlton are capable of winning a flag anytime soon however they do have a good talent pool.

We will just have to wait and see, conversely how do you see 2015?

 

[Demon man]

1. Hawthorn(the hawks list is a strong list and with the inclusions of James Frawley and Jono O'Rourke, I can't see them going down)
2. Port Adelaide(the inclusion of Paddy Ryder will make them a premiership threat)
3. Sydney(Despite the swans having a star forward line made of Lance Franklin, Kurt Tippett, Sam Reid, and Adam Goodes, I don't think Adam Goodes will perform as good due to age)
4. North Melbourne(the roos will improve if Jarrad Waite and Shaun Higgins don't have injury interrupted seasons)
5. Geelong(they have had their time at the top of the ladder)
6. Fremantle(they are going to struggle due to the age of their list)
7. Adelaide(new coach Phil Walsh is set to improve the crows)
8. Gold Coast Suns(Rodney Eade will shoot them to the top)
9. West Coast Eagles(good defence, good forward, average midfield will make them struggle)
10. Richmond(not much improvement in their list over pre-season=no finals)
11. Essendon(James Hird will struggle to coach nlw he has a bad reputation)
12. Collingwood(despite the inclusion of Levi Greenwood, Travis Varcoe and Darcy Moore, that is only the start of their list rebuild after Dayne Beams and Heritier Lumumba left the pies last trade period)
13. Brisbane(the inclusions of Dayne Beams, Allen Christensen, and Mitch Robinson will help the lions)
14. GWS Giants(the inclusions of Ryan Griffen and Joel Patfull means they will start their path to the finals)
15.Melbourne(the inclusions of Heritier Lumumba, Sam Frost, Ben Newton, and Jeff Garlett and Ben Newton saying the dees are the next port are good signs)
16. Carlton(the losses of Jarrad Waite and Mitch Robinson will hurt)
17. Western Bulldogs(the losses of Ryan Griffen, Adam Cooney, and Shaun Higgins will hurt)
18. St Kilda(slowly improving)

Brownlow Medal-Gary Ablett
Coleman Medal-Lance Franklin

First round of finals:
Hawthorn vs North Melbourne-Hawthorn
Port Adelaide vs Sydney-Port Adelaide
Geelong vs Gold Coast Suns-Gold Coast Suns
Fremantle vs Adelaide-Fremantle

Semi finals:
North Melbourne vs Gold Coast Suns-North Melbourne
Sydney vs Fremantle-Sydney

Preliminary finals:
Hawthorn vs Sydney-Hawthorn
Port Adelaide vs North Melbourne-Port Adelaide

Grand Final:
Hawthorn vs Port Adelaide-Port Adelaide