Live Event 2015 AFL National Draft Night Thread

[Heeney2Franklin]

He may have issues with his kicking but the kid can play football. I can understand some of the reasons we skipped, but he has to be better option than leonidis and dawson. He was rated as a top 25 pick and we have turned him down for 2 x 50 plusers.

I also dont get all the flight risk talk. If we are scared of players leaving we may aswell stop recruiting players outside of nsw all together. Every single player's preference in the draft is to stay close to home. Unfortunately they all cannot stay in their home states. Thats where we need to back our culture in to show these kids we are a great club to play for.

Im sure zac jones honest preference would be to play with his brother in his home state but he arrived at the club and has signed a 2 year extension

Wonder what influence (if any) his bitter and twisted dad had on his decision.

 

[Superstar swan]

Wonder what influence (if any) his bitter and twisted dad had on his decision.

Cant have been too severe since he did nominate us late.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Cant have been too severe since he did nominate us late.

Was very late almost as if it wasn't his preference and I want players here that want to be here

 

[Superstar swan]

Was very late almost as if it wasn't his preference and I want players here that want to be here

I highly doubt that dawson and leonidis's preference was to play at sydney. Whilst they may say they would be happy to play anywhere, if they had the choice you could almost guarantee they would elect to stay at home rather move interstate

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I highly doubt that dawson and leonidis's preference was to play at sydney. Whilst they may say they would be happy to play anywhere, if they had the choice you could almost guarantee they would elect to stay at home rather move interstate

I'm personally happier with Dawson and Leonidis than taking Dunkley. He isn't the type we needed. Need players that can really kick not players that struggle to kick.

 

[Tedeski]

Wrong, we picked up Talia for free. We gave next years 4th rounder which will be late 60s for Bullies pick 69 and Talia was free.

I'm wrong in 98% of my posts so you are more than likely right.

 

[Mick Oxlong]

No

I'm wrong in 98% of my posts so you are more than likely right.

No, you're correct, Wayne Swan is not. He was obtained during the trade period therefore he was not free!

 

[CheapCharlie]

He may have issues with his kicking but the kid can play football. I can understand some of the reasons we skipped, but he has to be better option than leonidis and dawson. He was rated as a top 25 pick and we have turned him down for 2 x 50 plusers.

I also dont get all the flight risk talk. If we are scared of players leaving we may aswell stop recruiting players outside of nsw all together. Every single player's preference in the draft is to stay close to home. Unfortunately they all cannot stay in their home states. Thats where we need to back our culture in to show these kids we are a great club to play for.

Im sure zac jones honest preference would be to play with his brother in his home state but he arrived at the club and has signed a 2 year extension

We have to take into account what Dunkley has said, about preferring to stay in his home state, and also he nominated at the very last minute for father/son rules. That showed he really is not overly invested or committed to Sydney.

Add to that his Father refuses to have almost anything to do with Sydney because he is maintaining some bitterness at the way his career finished... That also is not going to be great for keeping Dunkley around... he is from a close family and his father doesn't will not have anything to do with the club he could have been picked for. Young Dunks would want hsi family to share in his career and joy movong forward, yes?

Those thoughts would have crossed the minds of the Swans

 

[CheapCharlie]

I'm wrong in 98% of my posts so you are more than likely right.

My ex-wife used to say something similar.

 

[grimlock]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...l/news-story/5dfed7ae2cd9aba399c2a6c8cdf77ed9

The Swans said they had no problem with this but would only take him late in the draft.

“The guarantee we gave Josh was that if he was still available with our last pick in the draft we would take him,” Swans football manager Tom Harley said.

Quite optimistic to think Dunkley would last until pick 56

 

[melbournehammer]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...l/news-story/5dfed7ae2cd9aba399c2a6c8cdf77ed9



Quite optimistic to think Dunkley would last until pick 56

that sounds a lot more like we would only draft him if no-one else was going to.

The emma qualye article in the age is much more sympathetic.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...mma-why-sydney-opted-out-20151125-gl84z9.html

I find it a bit hard to believe that we only gave him nomination forms if he was going to be at our last pick. That we could have done without bothering to nominate. Clearly there is a lot of stuff that has happened behind the scenes here.

 

[doona]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...l/news-story/5dfed7ae2cd9aba399c2a6c8cdf77ed9



Quite optimistic to think Dunkley would last until pick 56

Probably shows we didn't rate him, or not a position/skillset that we required.

Which is fairly obvious from the whole offseason period.

Good to see that we do due diligence on players we can bid for.

 

[doona]

that sounds a lot more like we would only draft him if no-one else was going to.

The emma qualye article in the age is much more sympathetic.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...mma-why-sydney-opted-out-20151125-gl84z9.html

I find it a bit hard to believe that we only gave him nomination forms if he was going to be at our last pick. That we could have done without bothering to nominate. Clearly there is a lot of stuff that has happened behind the scenes here.

With our last puck means someone could have nominated him, with the 20% discount if 56 would have covered the balance, plus remaining pucks we wouldn't use, then we would have matched.

Which means that is where we rated a matched bid for him.

That's how I read it.

 

[swansfan51]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...l/news-story/5dfed7ae2cd9aba399c2a6c8cdf77ed9



Quite optimistic to think Dunkley would last until pick 56

Thanks grimlock that's some good info, now we just need to see if they correctly assessed him or underestimated his future production.

 

[Lakeside Swan]

We have probably kissed our chances of jordan dunkley good bye now

What type of a player is Jordan? Is he another inside mid? Anyone know?

 

[Superstar swan]

What type of a player is Jordan? Is he another inside mid? Anyone know?

No idea, just going off what others have said and rate him higher than josh

 

[Lakeside Swan]

I highly doubt that dawson and leonidis's preference was to play at sydney. Whilst they may say they would be happy to play anywhere, if they had the choice you could almost guarantee they would elect to stay at home rather move interstate

True, but the difference is that they're simply happy to get drafted by anyone. Dunkley on the other hand knew that he was going to get drafted.

 

[RW]

It wasn't just a flight risk with Dunkley though, it's also a question of where he would get the most senior opportunities. Even if he becomes a good player, he would still more likely than not find himself behind JPK, Hanners, Parker and Mitchell, so for all we know it might have ended up being a reverse JPK scenario. You can't keep them all. Only time will tell whether we made the right call or not.

 

[stew42]

It wasn't just a flight risk with Dunkley though, it's also a question of where he would get the most senior opportunities. Even if he becomes a good player, he would still more likely than not find himself behind JPK, Hanners, Parker and Mitchell, so for all we know it might have ended up being a reverse JPK scenario. You can't keep them all. Only time will tell whether we made the right call or not.

And more importantly, he'd be stuck behind Mills for his whole career. I'm kinda glad he didn't come to the Swans, if only for his footy career

 

[doona]

It wasn't just a flight risk with Dunkley though, it's also a question of where he would get the most senior opportunities. Even if he becomes a good player, he would still more likely than not find himself behind JPK, Hanners, Parker and Mitchell, so for all we know it might have ended up being a reverse JPK scenario. You can't keep them all. Only time will tell whether we made the right call or not.

I agree with what you are saying and also think list balance on top of that.

We have a good record later in the draft, and our recruiters would have had players lined up to fill needs and our game plan.