2015 Draft Discussion

[BlackGun1]

Qld U18s vs Oakleigh Chargers - Today at Redland
QLD 14-10-94 Oakleigh 13-8-86

Quick notes:

Qld Academy/ u18's Prospects

Those who have been mentioned previously:

Hipwood (KPP) - clearly the stand out for me today - played 99% of the game at CHB - marked well o/head ala Harris Andrews - often found team mates with his delivery ( by hand & foot) - including some exceptional long ranges passes to the chest of team mates - very impressed with him today (to go along with his NEAFL performance last week against Aspley)

Keays (Mid) - very disappointing today - don't know if he was inconvenienced by an injury or illness (???), or just didn't have it today - if you did not know about him coming to the game today as a recruiter, then he would not have rated a mention - everyone is entitled to an "off one" now & then - and maybe I have marked him harshly because of expectations - others may have seen it differently !!

Buzza (KPF) - Kicked 5 - marked strongly at times, put some down at other times, but had a significant influence on the game, and that's what you are looking for from your KPP's

Chol (KPF/Ruck)- lots of "love" for him on the Fantasy Draft threads - at best he looked like he has some potential, but nothing on show today to get overly excited about

Wagner (Mid - HF/HB) - a few sloppy disposals early, but kept at it all day and was a good contributor - demonstrated that he has a good tank, spent long periods on the field and never stopped running - without being a stand out, did his hopes no harm.

Dennis (Ruck) - Clearly beaten at the stoppages most of the time (as was anyone else who QLD threw in there) by Oakleigh's Wenn - Dennis is a string bean and the bigger bodied opponent "pushed him around" whenever there was body on body jockeying, with Dennis holding his own when it was a pure "jump" contest

Those who rarely rate a mention:

Corvo (Med Def) - not sure whether he was on the field at all in the first quarter (if so, did not notice him, nor make any notes), but from the second quarter onwards he impressed with his defensive pressure, positioning and decision making - and his disposal, especially by foot - he has improved considerably, and from what I saw today and last week against Aspley in the NEAFL, I expect him to at least rate a mention through the Championships

Watson (T Def) - hadn't seen much of him prior to today - liked some of his defensive work, especially his spoiling - this will sound strange when his opponent for most of the time (Ridley) kicked 6 goals, but most of these did not come from direct one on one contests (except for one strong lead & mark) - again, happy for others to put me right if they saw it differently)

Also, there were some good moments from Rolls, Filewood & Budarick.

Oakleigh

Have to admit that I did not focus too much on the visitors, my interest was more in the possible selections from QLD, and many of the Oakleigh "notables" were not on show (8 missing in the Vic Metro squad, plus Silvagni (inj??)), but:

Wenn - as mentioned previously, did a great job in the Ruck - was a little limited in his influence around the ground though

Ridley - kicked 6 - was "Johhny on the spot" several times, so credit for being in the right position - kicked well, can't recall any misses (possibly the odd one)

Apologies to the rest, my focus was elsewhere.

While probably not an opinion as scathing as that, I definitely agreed that Keays was very much down on his usual output and probably marked it as a bad game for him. However, he still managed 31 disposals, 6 clearances and 5 tackles. I think we all expect him to be the dominant force and do the freakish things that say maybe Wagner is quite capable of doing. However, he's just not that type of player, and he's really beginning to develop into a genuine inside mid. Regardless, to get 31 touches and have a visibly poor game is surely a good sign, always finding a way to contribute.

Apart from that i'd say you're pretty much spot on with what my thoughts were. I thought Hipwood did a few dumb things with the footy that seemed to stick in my mind a bit. Corvo, Wagner and Buzza were my best three on the day.

 

[POBT]

Man, if Keays is getting those sort of numbers on a bad day, he's gonna be alright!

 

[BlackGun1]

Man, if Keays is getting those sort of numbers on a bad day, he's gonna be alright!

He had a fair few ineffective kicks in the stats but I didnt really see any blatant turnovers, more just from clearances and such. I guess it is a nice surprise to see that when you just dont notice someone. Jacob Allison was much the same, 27 touches and a goal, I rarely noticed him!

 

[POBT]

Yeah, I know what you mean. Rocky is someone who can slip under my guard and have a 30 touch game without me noticing. Sometimes good games go unnoticed and sometimes stats can mislead.

 

[Quigley]

Keays is just that type of player. He can get a heap of it and you hardly notice him at all. Upping his hurt factor has been something for him to work on.

 

[chopperduck]

Good to see he can find the pill. He has transitioned into the midfield very well. Has natural ability up forward, looks like he might be a goos one for us.

 

[Eons]

What's his kick like? More like Black or somewhere inbetween Black and Rich? Only seem limited games of Keays from last year..

 

[BlackGun1]

What's his kick like? More like Black or somewhere inbetween Black and Rich? Only seem limited games of Keays from last year..

Nothing like Rich, his kicking I think has been a tad overrated by the likes of Knightmare and such. 20-35m he will hit a target almost every time. However once it starts getting over 40 his kicks seem to up-and-under a bit

 

[Eons]

Nothing like Rich, his kicking I think has been a tad overrated by the likes of Knightmare and such. 20-35m he will hit a target almost every time. However once it starts getting over 40 his kicks seem to up-and-under a bit

Reminded me a bit of Black when I saw him, was hoping he may have found some penetration on his kicks. Still, nothing wrong with hitting targets all the time at that 20-35 range. With a few years on the leg weights he'll get some more penetration on his kicks.

 

[Panthera]

What's his kick like? More like Black or somewhere inbetween Black and Rich? Only seem limited games of Keays from last year..

Think Jordan Lewis in his first 5 years and that's about where his kicking will be

May just be a similar player too...

 

[Zhesty]

I think people forget how good a kick Simon Black used to be. Not penetrating but lace out for our forwards.

 

[Mayestro]

Thanks to Daddy_Barrels for finding these streams of Queensland TAC games. I had no idea they were available. Much appreciated!

For everyone's viewing pleasure, a wander through YouTube has unearthed some useful stuff; they're all Queensland games, but useful as much for watching their opposition as themselves.

I recommend watching with an open copy of the TAC Cup Record (http://www.sportingpulse.com/get_file.cgi?id=3621488)


Players to watch: Harry McKay (23), Sam Skinner (16) and 2016's Ben Ainsworth (5) for Gippsland. Hipwood for Queensland is an Academy prospect.


Players to watch: Ben Crocker (9), Jack Firns (24), Daniel Houston (19), Harry Thompson (48) and 2016's Sam McLarty (15) for Oakleigh.


Players to watch: Bailey Rice (7), Jacob Weitering (31) and Keiran Collins (21) for Dandenong.

 

[Barrels]

Thanks to Daddy_Barrels for finding these streams of Queensland TAC games. I had no idea they were available. Much appreciated!

 

[carnthemlions]

Nothing like Rich, his kicking I think has been a tad overrated by the likes of Knightmare and such. 20-35m he will hit a target almost every time. However once it starts getting over 40 his kicks seem to up-and-under a bit

More like Dan Hannebery maybe?

 

[BlackGun1]

More like Dan Hannebery maybe?

Haven't seen enough of Hannebery to say. I reckon you could even say Rockliff. Honestly, the more I watch of Keays the more Rockliff i see, just probably a tad more polished.

 

[Crusha]

Thanks to Daddy_Barrels for finding these streams of Queensland TAC games. I had no idea they were available. Much appreciated!

Found these the other day, also ....and have been doing some editing.
They take a while to upload to Youtube, so will post some others over the coming days ..... if anyone is interested.
First upload has just completed:

Buzza (#22) vs Oakleigh - 30/5/15

 

[Eons]

Like how he gives the thumbs up to the player who kicks it to him.

 

[Crusha]

Hipwood (#33) vs Oakleigh - 30/5/15

 

[SizeMatters]

http://www.neafl.com.au/index.php?id=126

any young blokes from local leagues looking to get a chance? A few look like decent fits. If we lose Aish would Harper be a decent replacement?

Matt Sully could be decent given his size. Haven't seen any of these blokes play live or on tapes so hard to see how they are. Just throw sme names out and see if anyone here has seen them.

 

[BlackGun1]

Josh Smith from Redlands anyone?

 

[Crusha]

Hipwood (#33) vs Gippsland - 9/5/15

 

[jasonrampage2010]

Found these the other day, also ....and have been doing some editing.
They take a while to upload to Youtube, so will post some others over the coming days ..... if anyone is interested.
First upload has just completed:

Buzza (#22) vs Oakleigh - 30/5/15

Is that Ben Browns twin brother?
Looks and plays like him from the footage

 

[Hollow Knight]

Is that Ben Browns twin brother?
Looks and plays like him from the footage

I wonder if this Homer Nixon is any relation?

 

[Haso]

I wonder if this Homer Nixon is any relation?

Unlikely sir, they both spell and pronounce their names differently.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Decent mobility and speed for a big fella.