2015 Draft Discussion

[SizeMatters]

Can't see the Lions bidding... got a feeling there is a gentleman's agreements between the frontier clubs not to bid on each others academy prospects.

 

[jjami15]

In relation to Schache I feel that we've become a little too expectant on draftees to come in and make a sudden impact. If we do draft Schache then I happy to wait the three to four years for him to be a top 22 player. I look at Yeo who is now in his fourth year making an impact and sing spoken about and have transferred that thinking to Paparone, Close, Mayes next year being in their fourth year. I would be very happy to take him at 3, just to add I have a dream where somehow we get Weitering and Collins and we have our future spine for the next 10 years. Sigh!!

 

[cotter101]

If we get Dixon and/or Rance it changes how we'll look at the draft completely.

Say we get both. We'd have Rance, Merrett, Clarke, Gardiner, Andrews, Paparone as tall/third tall defenders.
Dixon, Freeman, Close and McStay as tall targets up forward. Merrett and Andrews would be able to be swingmen. The club will back 2 of McStay, Freeman and Close to become AFL level forward.

So what would the other gaping hole on our list be then? Say Leuenberger leaves, we'd have Martin as the main ruck who will be 29 at years end. West as back up. and a largely unproven Archie Smith on the rookie list who may very well get moved on. We need a ruckman.

I think a smaller lockdown defender is a need. Someone who can shut his opponent out of the game, ideally those blokes do need to provide some re-bound these days.

 

[Crimso]

He is suggesting that the team picking 2nd would bid on those two players and so under the new live bidding system they would technically be picked 2nd and 3rd with the matching club forfeiting later picks to secure them early.

Presumably the swans will be looking to trade for soe. Draft picks to match their highly rated academy and f/s picks. Might be some opportunities there.

Not ****ing Tippett!

 

[Cockliff38]

I think a smaller lockdown defender is a need. Someone who can shut his opponent out of the game, ideally those blokes do need to provide some re-bound these days.

We've been crying out for one for years. Still have nightmares over that Milne game where he kicked 11 or 12

 

[jackess]

We've been crying out for one for years. Still have nightmares over that Milne game where he kicked 11 or 12

I'm hoping Harwood can do it. Seeing Clem Smith playing alright for Carlton in that role hurts but maybe J McGrath can fill that role.

 

[cotter101]

I'm hoping Harwood can do it. Seeing Clem Smith playing alright for Carlton in that role hurts but maybe J McGrath can fill that role.

Yeah, Harwood and McGrath our two best chances at filling that role.

 

[John_Proctor]

If there's one thing the entire league has learnt you don't draft a ruckman at pick 3. You also don't draft small defenders there either.

Our midfield is loaded with a graders. The list of talls below are hopefully a graders. We'd be stupid not to take a tall unless over the rest of the season it becomes am midfielders draft and shache has fallen to pick 10 or something.

If we get Dixon and/or Rance it changes how we'll look at the draft completely.

Say we get both. We'd have Rance, Merrett, Clarke, Gardiner, Andrews, Paparone as tall/third tall defenders.
Dixon, Freeman, Close and McStay as tall targets up forward. Merrett and Andrews would be able to be swingmen. The club will back 2 of McStay, Freeman and Close to become AFL level forward.

So what would the other gaping hole on our list be then? Say Leuenberger leaves, we'd have Martin as the main ruck who will be 29 at years end. West as back up. and a largely unproven Archie Smith on the rookie list who may very well get moved on. We need a ruckman.

I think a smaller lockdown defender is a need. Someone who can shut his opponent out of the game, ideally those blokes do need to provide some re-bound these days.

 

[cotter101]

If there's one thing the entire league has learnt you don't draft a ruckman at pick 3. You also don't draft small defenders there either.

Our midfield is loaded with a graders. The list of talls below are hopefully a graders. We'd be stupid not to take a tall unless over the rest of the season it becomes am midfielders draft and shache has fallen to pick 10 or something.

Was I suggesting that we take a ruckman or small defender at pick 3? Our midfield probably has 3 a graders(Hanley, Rockliff and Beams). Martin as the ruckman is a grade too.

All I was suggesting was that picking up Rance and Dixon would completely change the way we'd look at the draft. How you got anything else from that is beyond me.

 

[Football Pope]

If there's one thing the entire league has learnt you don't draft a ruckman at pick 3. You also don't draft small defenders there either.

Our midfield is loaded with a graders. The list of talls below are hopefully a graders. We'd be stupid not to take a tall unless over the rest of the season it becomes am midfielders draft and shache has fallen to pick 10 or something.

Not sure they have.....pick 3 being a first round pick...last 10 years

2005 Paddy Ryder# 7
2006 Luenberger #4
2007 Kreuzer was taken with Carltons prority pick#1
2008 Nic Naitanui was taken pick# 2...
2009 Max Gawn #34 ( not many talls in the draft)...
2010 (start of the compromised drafts) GC Gorringe #10 Tom Lynch#11...
2011 Longer #8..
2012 Brodie Grundy #18 (Pies 1st pick)
2013 M Apeness #17,Jack Leslie GC pick # 20 Toby Nankervis# 35
2014 Peter Wright #8

 

[Eons]

I think a smaller lockdown defender is a need. Someone who can shut his opponent out of the game, ideally those blokes do need to provide some re-bound these days.

I think Kennedy from GWS is someone we should have a look at. No idea of his contract status but he would be a decent option for us.

 

[POBT]

Apeness, Leslie and Wright are all ruck sized key position players though. Not sure any of them would have been drafted that high had they not been prospects to hold down a key defensive or attacking posts.

 

[Football Pope]

This was interesting....

Conlon was highly touted as a draft prospect in 2013, with many rating him as the second best tall forward behind eventual No. 1 pick Tom Boyd

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/...ll-league-season/story-fngnvocb-1227090208949

 

[Football Pope]

Apeness, Leslie and Wright are all ruck sized key position players though. Not sure any of them would have been drafted that high had they not been prospects to hold down a key defensive or attacking posts.

It's an interesting point...all played junior footy as rucks and went to the draft having played predominately in that position..

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-18/big-boys-head-to-combine

 

[cotter101]

I think Kennedy from GWS is someone we should have a look at. No idea of his contract status but he would be a decent option for us.

Certainly. Think he signed a contract extension last year. They'd hate to see him go.

 

[LIONS08]

Certainly. Think he signed a contract extension last year. They'd hate to see him go.

Yeah he has signed until 2017

 

[PattyKwasagun]

This was interesting....

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/...ll-league-season/story-fngnvocb-1227090208949

Hadn't heard anything about him, but just did some research and he's certainly talented. That article is from last year though so no clue where he's at now.

 

[cotter101]

Hadn't heard anything about him, but just did some research and he's certainly talented. That article is from last year though so no clue where he's at now.

Doubt he'll end up on a list now. Not really on the radar of any clubs.

 

[Football Pope]

Hadn't heard anything about him, but just did some research and he's certainly talented. That article is from last year though so no clue where he's at now.

Exactly..that's what I was getting at, big talent.

(from the above article)

.“He played a game in the twos there just to see how his body was going, put himself on ice and he’s getting ready to get stuck into a big pre-season down at the Northern Blues.”

Just wondering...Northern Blues are Carlton seconds... and as they need a forward....wonders if something shifty is going on and they have hidden him somewhere out of sight?

 

[PattyKwasagun]

Doubt he'll end up on a list now. Not really on the radar of any clubs.

Well the equation is pretty simple really. To make himself relevant he'd have to become one of the leading goalkickers in the VFL (or have a few days where he kicks a bag to show his talent). Sadly seems to be plenty of stories like his, where injury, or attitude, or just the way the cards fall means a player who could have had a long AFL career doesn't even make a list.

 

[Mr Ripper]

Shacky

 

[theteamtobeat]

Hadn't heard anything about him, but just did some research and he's certainly talented. That article is from last year though so no clue where he's at now.

To be fair, after Tom Boyd it was pretty weak draft for key position talls though.

 

[Zhesty]

I think Conlon could be another Ben Brown. Similar stories I believe.

 

[Crusha]

For those interested:

Some clips from yesterday's NEAFL vs Tasmania Representative Match - 2 Qld players who have had "some" mention re drafting.

#17 Josh Wagner (Aspley) - Age 20 (brother of 2015 Academy prospect Scott)




#5 Matt Uebergang (Redlands) - Age 20

 

[jackess]

Beautiful Burpengary