2015 Draft Discussion

[Panthera]

What are the chances of Nick Weller being drafted as a rookie this year?

Has to be some chance as he was named as one of our academy players open for bidding in late September

 

[Ironmonger]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-23/afl-draft-late-mail-intrigue-surrounds-charlie-Curnow

It's understood Curnow has made it clear to several non-Victorian clubs throughout the season that he would not like to move interstate.

Another one.

It seems for every drafted player who actually goes home, there are a couple more who indicated up front that they didn't want to be drafted by an interstate team. Wingard and Kavanagh we know about; there are no doubt many more.

 

[jackess]

I wonder if after we draft Schache any of those posters who had a meltdown after we beat the Bulldogs will admit they were wrong.

 

[Tassie4ever]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-23/afl-draft-late-mail-intrigue-surrounds-charlie-Curnow



Another one.

It seems for every drafted player who actually goes home, there are a couple more who indicated up front that they didn't want to be drafted by an interstate team. Wingard and Kavanagh we know about; there are no doubt many more.

 

[rusty08]

I wonder if after we draft Schache any of those posters who had a meltdown after we beat the Bulldogs will admit they were wrong.

Imagine the dilemma we'd be faced with if we'd lost? Weitering or Shache? Decisions decisions ha. Senses tell me there'd still be a lot of unhappy supporters regardless who we picked.
More than happy with pick 2

 

[cotter101]

We'd still pick the same player we're selecting tonight if we had pick one.

 

[Panthera]

I wonder if after we draft Schache any of those posters who had a meltdown after we beat the Bulldogs will admit they were wrong.

Well I didn't have a meltdown, but I will be making a donation to a certain fund tomorrow if we, as expected; take SSSCHHHACCCHE

 

[CarloLion]

Merry Hip-Schache day everyone! and a happy new Keays!

 

[dlanod]

Has to be some chance as he was named as one of our academy players open for bidding in late September

Last year we nominated six (?) and took three.

 

[Fatcat08]

Yeah, I'll be there. Might tweet some stuff depending on how distracted I get from the canapes on offer.

 

[jackess]

I had a dream last night we drafted Schache. So if we draft him that's 100% proof that I have psychic abilities.

 

[Simba Moyo]

A sneak peek at what the live draft system looks like.. how embarrassing would it be if a team accidentally selected "pass"

 

[Ironmonger]

I wonder if after we draft Schache any of those posters who had a meltdown after we beat the Bulldogs will admit they were wrong.

I don't remember the meltdowns, fortunately, but hopefully it vindicates the principle that you try to win every game and count on everything else working itself out.

 

[jackess]

I don't remember the meltdowns, fortunately, but hopefully it vindicates the principle that you try to win every game and count on everything else working itself out.

Oh there were meltdowns and then there were morons like Damo Barrett saying that winning was a bad thing. After all that we'll end up with Schache, Keays and Hipwood as well as giving the spoon to Carlton.

 

[Leuy LongerCombo]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-23/afl-draft-late-mail-intrigue-surrounds-charlie-Curnow



Another one.

It seems for every drafted player who actually goes home, there are a couple more who indicated up front that they didn't want to be drafted by an interstate team. Wingard and Kavanagh we know about; there are no doubt many more.

I'm not against a Draftee coming out and saying that thou, and don't think he should be trying to silence or shame future draftees from doing the same (Not At all saying you are Ironmonger, just a general comment)

It's good that he's said that, better than leading a team down the garden path, to turn his back on them after his first contract. It strengthens the Academy process, until those states start regularly producing the same standard talent as traditional States, and shows theres more to Homesickness concerns than the players that walk out of a club.

I think if he was a standout selection, that potentially raises more issues thou.

 

[carnthemlions]

A sneak peek at what the live draft system looks like.. how embarrassing would it be if a team accidentally selected "pass"

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It would be the responsible thing for Carlton and Melbourne to do. Give those poor kids a chance.

 

[Viceregal]

A sneak peek at what the live draft system looks like.. how embarrassing would it be if a team accidentally selected "pass"

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One would hope there would be an 'Are you sure?' with default set to 'no' associated with that button!

 

[The Flying Belgian]

One would hope there would be an 'Are you sure?' with default set to 'no' associated with that button!

" It looks as though you want to take your chances in the Pre-Season Draft. Are you sure you want to do that?"

 

[KissKiss]

Its funny that they are so certain on the draft choices that they are already loading in Mills being bid on by Melbourne for their example. Other than that it looks like a decent setup. Wonder what it brings up when a team has to choose to match a bid?

 

[pauldrc]

I'm not against a Draftee coming out and saying that thou, and don't think he should be trying to silence or shame future draftees from doing the same (Not At all saying you are Ironmonger, just a general comment)

It's good that he's said that, better than leading a team down the garden path, to turn his back on them after his first contract. It strengthens the Academy process, until those states start regularly producing the same standard talent as traditional States, and shows theres more to Homesickness concerns than the players that walk out of a club.

I think if he was a standout selection, that potentially raises more issues thou.

I guess the problem(s) come when the top 10 (or majority of) are Vic players and they all basically say this sort of thing....

 

[Ironmonger]

I thought I’d quickly do the maths and figure out what our best and worst case scenarios are tonight:

Assuming Mills, Hopper and Kennedy are all bid on and matched prior to Hipwood and Keays, and Dunkley and Himmelberg are not bid on prior to either of Hipwood and Keays then:

To get both Hipwood and Keays without going into deficit:

We can match bids of

• 6 & 11
  
  
• 7 & 9
• or any bids from pick 8 onward.

To get both Hipwood, Keays and keep one second round draft pick:


We can match bids of:

• 6 & 24
  
  
• 7 & 21
  
  
• 8 & 19
  
  
• 9 & 17
  
  
• 10 & 15
  
  
• 11 & 14

Or any bids from pick 12 onward.


To get both Hipwood, Keays and keep two second round picks:


We can match bids of:

• 12 & 27
  
  
• 13 & 26
  
  
• 14 & 24
  
  
• 15 & 23
  
  
• 16 & 22
  
  
• 17 & 21
  
  
• 18 & 20

Or any bids from pick 19 onward.

We can of course also match bids where the second bid is lower than 27, but I didn’t think that was worth including

If Hipwood happens to attract a bid before Kennedy, then things will look a bit less positive for us, but I haven’t done the maths on that yet.

I’d appreciate it if anyone so inclined could check any of the numbers and let me know if they think I’ve got something wrong.

EDIT: Nope, I'm pretty sure a lot of this is wrong. I'll take another look at it and update. Apologies to anyone who read this and got the wrong idea.

 

[LIONS08]

Good to see them working on their chemistry already

 

[a mayes ing]

Good to see them working on there chemistry already

Look pretty similar in height.

 

[Dan12]

If Keays is in Adelaide, does that mean he is invited to the draft and in contention for a top 10 pick?

Every year the AFL invites draftees in contention for the top 10. Hope no one else rates Keays that highly.

 

[carnthemlions]

Clayton Oliver now at now at number 2 in Knightmare's power rankings... what the?
Anyway, have as read of Quigley's rankings if you haven't already. Definitely worth a look for some different perspectives on players.