Strategy 2015 Draft Prospects

[*PAF]

Do we need 4 small goalkickers considering we've got 3-4 talls rotating through there as well?

4?
Gray and Wingard rotate through the middle. Monfries is not quite a small forward as such.
Neade is more of a wingman goal setter upperer. He may develop into that goalsneak but atm his best games have been when he sets up goals rather than score them.
Must be missing someone.

With 4 on the bench yes we could do with a specialist small, not just for now but looking ahead as well. Our list make up is such that we have the opportunity to try and find a good one. A lot of good smalls have been drafted late or even as rookies.
IIRC Aaron Davey was a rookie. Betts and Walters were both pretty late. There may be more as well.

EDIT: Betts was not drafted pretty late, he did a Surjan.
No one drafted him during the draft proper but was picked up by Carlton in the pre season draft.

 

[longdonkey]

4?
Gray and Wingard rotate through the middle. Monfries is not quite a small forward as such.
Neade is more of a wingman goal setter upperer. He may develop into that goalsneak but atm his best games have been when he sets up goals rather than score them.
Must be missing someone.

With 4 on the bench yes we could do with a specialist small, not just for now but looking ahead as well. Our list make up is such that we have the opportunity to try and find a good one. A lot of good smalls have been drafted late or even as rookies.
IIRC Aaron Davey was a rookie. Betts and Walters were both pretty late. There may be more as well.

EDIT: Betts was not drafted pretty late, he did a Surjan.
No one drafted him during the draft proper but was picked up by Carlton in the pre season draft.

I am counting the following as small forwards Wingard, Neade, Monfries and Gray but you could say both Grays spend some time there, you're right that they rotate through the midfield. In reality they all do though.

 

[*PAF]

I am counting the following as small forwards Wingard, Neade, Monfries and Gray but you could say both Grays spend some time there, you're right that they rotate through the midfield. In reality they all do though.

Hence why I mentioned Betts/Walters type specialist small forward.
We do have an opportunity to look for one late in the draft as we don't really need any more KPPs.
However apart from a rookie type backup ruckman, whoever we draft has to be a natural footballer first, second and third. Perhaps a natural athlete as his fourth best point.
Nah, atuff that, natural footballer as his fourth best point as well.

 

[PJ Power]

The role of fast small forward currently rests with Neade, but I am not quite convinced he will ever be consistent enough to be a top level AFL small forward. So far he's been dangerous in patches, but I doubt opposition clubs are overly frightened yet of the damage he can inflict.

Wingard and R Gray are sublime small forwards, but neither have express speed. We do need a small forward to complement them with that burst of acceleration. If the coaches have doubts on Neade's ability to be that man, then they should recruit another.

The 2004 forward line had Pickett as the explosive player. We do need that position occupied.

 

[raman]

The role of fast small forward currently rests with Neade, but I am not quite convinced he will ever be consistent enough to be a top level AFL small forward. So far he's been dangerous in patches, but I doubt opposition clubs are overly frightened yet of the damage he can inflict.

Wingard and R Gray are sublime small forwards, but neither have express speed. We do need a small forward to complement them with that burst of acceleration. If the coaches have doubts on Neade's ability to be that man, then they should recruit another.

The 2004 forward line had Pickett as the explosive player. We do need that position occupied.

We might need to see if we can develop Impey into that. He has the tools.

 

[*PAF]

We might need to see if we can develop Impey into that. He has the tools.

Does he have the natural instinctive goal sense that small forwards need? That is something that cannot be taught.

 

[raman]

Does he have the natural instinctive goal sense that small forwards need? That is something that cannot be taught.

True, but we haven't seen enough of him forward to know though. I'd like to see him planted forward in the pre-season because PJ is right, we lack a fast crumber and Neade may not be it.

 

[Grave Danger]

Pick of the delisted players: http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl...en-second-chance/story-e6frf3e3-1227589072677

Apparently *none* of these players would suit Port Adelaide Maybe clubs just don't delist the type of player we need...

 

[PatientMental]

Not going to be very much need for crumbing forwards with Dixon now.

 

[x_les_x]

Wow giving up on impey as a small defender already? It really is off season

Clearly the coaching staff want to develop him into a small defender; he hasnt played a full game in the forward line. Ever. Whats the point on moving him when right down the other end we have s motlop/betts/rioli/ballantyne kicking 3-5 goals. Krak is our short term small defender and he doesnt have time on his side. After that its........byrne jones who could very well be delisted next year. Were not turning impey into the next surjan

 

[raman]

Not going to be very much need for crumbing forwards with Dixon now.

u wot? that means more need for crumbling forwards.

 

[PJ Power]

We might need to see if we can develop Impey into that. He has the tools.

Impey's going to be a great close-checking, explosive, small defender and we need one of those too.

 

[raman]

Wow giving up on impey as a small defender already? It really is off season

I'm not giving up on Impey as anything, including as a McLeodesque midfielder. But it's quite correct that we lack small forwards with elite speed and Neade is unproven. It'd be great to see Impey tried in that role.

Also your implication that we're short of small defenders is... interesting.

 

[Hellgood]

If my memory serves me right, Impey actually played more as a small forward than a small defender as a junior.

Personally I'm happy for him to be continued to develop as a close checking defender and for us to pursue other avenues to find a small crumbing forward. I know it got highlighted a fair bit, but his effort on Motlop against Geelong shows he is one of the rare few who possess the traits necessary to negate the brilliance of those offensive weapons.

 

[PJ Power]

If my memory serves me right, Impey actually played more as a small forward than a small defender as a junior.

Personally I'm happy for him to be continued to develop as a close checking defender and for us to pursue other avenues to find a small crumbing forward. I know it got highlighted a fair bit, but his effort on Motlop against Geelong shows he is one of the rare few who possess the traits necessary to negate the brilliance of those offensive weapons.

We potentially Neade another Impey up forward. Jakey needs the heat turned up on him this preseason. Like O'Shea, he tends to be an August onwards specialist. Time for him to roll up the sleeves and make sure that he is ready to fire from round 1. He got his chances early in 2015, but didn't take them until it was too late for the team. Has to do better next time around.
Amon is another option for his role, but doesn't present as quite as speedy.

 

[RangaInTeal]

Get Brind

 

[PJ Power]

Get Brind

Looks ok from his extended highlights on youtube. Will he be around for a rookie pick? Not many seem to rate him as a top 50 option for the main draft.

 

[Hellgood]

Whilst we aren't going to get him, Eric Hipwood looks like a left footed Justin Westhoff clone.

Brisbane will need to source some peptides out to bulk him up though - like Justin he doesn't look to have a frame that will be particularly conducive to growing horizontally.

 

[longdonkey]

Hence why I mentioned Betts/Walters type specialist small forward.
We do have an opportunity to look for one late in the draft as we don't really need any more KPPs.
However apart from a rookie type backup ruckman, whoever we draft has to be a natural footballer first, second and third. Perhaps a natural athlete as his fourth best point.
Nah, atuff that, natural footballer as his fourth best point as well.

I agree with what you're saying there.
I think looking at the outs gives a good idea on what might come in

Kane Cornes (ret) replaced by Toumpas
Daniel Flynn (ret)
Mitch Harvey (del)
Tom Logan (ret)
Kane Mitchell (del)
Andrew Moore (del)
Jarrad Redden (del)
Sam Russell (del)
Mason Shaw (del) replaced by Dixon
Johann Wagner (del)

So lets not take into account rookies we are replacing Harvey, Mitchell, Moore & Redden.

2 talls and 2 midfielders.

So we may pick up one ruck, one forward and 2 midfielders to maintain the same/similar balance of the list.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

I'm not giving up on Impey as anything, including as a McLeodesque midfielder. But it's quite correct that we lack small forwards with elite speed and Neade is unproven. It'd be great to see Impey tried in that role.

Also your implication that we're short of small defenders is... interesting.

one of Impeys great strengths is his versatility for mine. Just looks like he'd be at home on any line. Could definately see him playing a half forward role but love seeing him run and bounce. I think this will be a big year for the Imp. He has that special something.

 

[powermacs]

Does he have the natural instinctive goal sense that small forwards need? That is something that cannot be taught.

The second clip was an amazing goal.

 

[PJ Power]

Out of that 2013 draft/trade period, it looks like we will be left with Polec, Impey, White, Sam Gray and Amon as genuine chances to make decent careers at our club. Byrne-Jones looks unlikely. Harvey and Russell are gone.
Not a bad return really overall.

Now we wait to see if:
Polec can have a durable AFL career, after playing just over 50% of games with us in 2y;
Impey can be great, not just good;
White contributes into the next 2 years;
Sam Gray proves to be the REAL deal;
and Karl Amon develops into more than just the next Derek Murray.

 

[RangaInTeal]

Looks ok from his extended highlights on youtube. Will he be around for a rookie pick? Not many seem to rate him as a top 50 option for the main draft.

Paul Chapman/Matt McDonough like. At Port, under Burgo I think he will be an asset. Not quick, not big, but Strong, Big Arsed Warrior. Clean and Smart. High Risk, High Reward

 

[Big Rig Power]

I still like the idea of krak up forward as a small forward cleanest player at the club reads it as good as anyone and has the smarts around goal eg kicked wot was it 6 goals for gc in his last year there.

He can also take.a mark in the air or lead if for some reason Dixon etc have lead up ground

Even if it's till we find a young up coming small . forward

 

[TwoShadesOfGray]

I still like the idea of krak up forward as a small forward cleanest player at the club reads it as good as anyone and has the smarts around goal eg kicked wot was it 6 goals for gc in his last year there.

He can also take.a mark in the air or lead if for some reason Dixon etc have lead up ground

Even if it's till we find a young up coming small . forward

I'd like to try him up forward as well, I remember him going forward for about 10 minutes of a game and he set-up like three goals in that time.