List Mgmt. 2015 Draft Thread - Pre-Season & Rookie Draft Friday 11:00am AEDT

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you know ah chee is one of the best charcters in the draft, facts are you are not a recruiter, and really have no idea dude
you assume by me suggesting that he will be inclined to return home that I am suggesting he is of poor character , which is not correct .
You don't know who I am so don't assume .;)
 

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I am with you on Oliver being our man but I don't share your doubts on Ah Chee. The kid can seriously play, has a great head on his shoulders and his brother is going into his fifth year in Adelaide, so I'm not sure he's the flight risk you think he is.

Who was the last interstate kid we had who went home when we wanted him to stay? Troy Taylor, then who? Peter Wilson?
The whole family is extremely close and speak regularly about missing not all being together.
I will not surprise me if they both end up back home reasonably soon .
I know he can play but IMO the list is severely weighted on outsiders .
Furthermore I believe the form of outsiders at junior level is the hardest to transform into the AFL . Predominately as they have been praised and encouraged so much for there outside game that when they enter the AFL they can't adjust to
Defensive structures .
No tagging as such in the TAC IMO is a flaw .
 

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Q for those who watch these things more closely, or who have better powers of perception:

What's a sign(s) that an underage inside mid, especially one who is more physically developed like Oliver, who's beaten up on others at TAC Cup level, will have a lower ceiling? I sense plenty go well at juniors, but fail to translate. Arnot was no star, but he's an example. Many highly regarded and honoured (at junior level) insiders go by the wayside once the others catch up (Bulldogs had a Morrish medal winner I think - keg on legs - who was picked late and then found out at senior level).

I like the urgency seen in Oliver's tape, but wasn't he playing against weaker/ diluted TAC Cup teams during the Champs, perhaps inflating his numbers?

What suggests Oliver will go to the next level and not just do well when he first hits AFL (different player, but ala Daniel Rich) due to size & physicality, then plateau or regress? It's great that he models his game on Rockliff and that Carlton rising star runner-up (legit forgot his name for this minute and because he's Carlton I'm not even going to try to look up the knob's name), but both those guys are hard at it, with so-so disposal. A worry?

Devil's advocate stuff - I'm not slotting him. Cheers in advance
Mirrors my concern UTG.(Not that i think he'll be there at 12)
 

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Drafted last year or the year before? Certainly rings a bell...
Last year. We were into him big time, though it was North's bid that forced GWS' hand.

Potential gun maybe but he averages 14 disposals and 0.1 goals a game? Does love to tackle though.
In one season at AFL level. Was better than expected last season.
 

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Ive been champing at the bit for draft day to come specifically cause i want Oliver, however you both raise some fair points.
I'd still like him but will be happy with whoever we get.
Its strange for me,The 2 that would fit our needs(Oliver & Mathieson)are the 2 i have my doubts over.Would prefer Ah,Chee or Gresham.IMO.
(Burton to much of a risk,Would consider with our 2nd pick if still there though)
 

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No I won't and nor will you when he pisses off back home in two years time after ducking the club around with soft cocked down hill skiing efforts, trying to build a highlights package and being dropped to the VFL .
We do not need to be spending a first round pick on a bloke who is not going to address the problem which has seen the club belted in 3 consecutive years finals .
Straight swap for the also homesick Wines.:p
 
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