2015 Draft - Which midfielder is next?

[Scham]

I mean, how many delisted players turn into regular players compared to those that don't. its kinda like a lottery where most clubs lose

Exactly. Forget Powell. Even a rookie spot would be a waste.

 

[FD2646]

He was ordinary at East Perth and spent a fair bit of the year in the reserves. Wouldn't really be a upgrade on Vanderluer or exposed WAFL form.

I must have seen his good games!

 

[FD2646]

He was ordinary at East Perth and spent a fair bit of the year in the reserves. Wouldn't really be a upgrade on Vanderluer or exposed WAFL form.

I must have seen his good games!

 

[meima]

If we going for mid in draft , will we draft Ryan Clarke ? Look like another fast player. I hope freo pick mid if good tall not available, then we got chance to trade with club with less skillful mid with tall, no point pick tall and delisted them one year later.

 

[Docker82]

If we going for mid in draft , will we draft Ryan Clarke ? Look like another fast player. I hope freo pick mid if good tall not available, then we got chance to trade with club with less skillful mid with tall, no point pick tall and delisted them one year later.

We do have other needs. We'll need a small forward and a couple of medium defenders in a few years. I'd rather try and draft for those needs if the talls available are too risky. When was the last time we traded a player for a decent pick or a player for a player. I can't think of anyone since Warnock.

 

[couldhavebeen]

Just a few names here for posters to have a look at,
NAME POSITION AGE DRAFT RANGE HEIGHT WEIGHT COMMENTS
Riley Bonner DEFENDER 18 12-25 190 CM 85 KGS Elite distributor of the ball , L\footer , good speed rebound defender.
Blake Hardwick SMALL FORW 18 25-60 181 CM 79 KGS Makes good decisions with the ball very good mark Medhurst clone.
Ryan Burton FORWARD 18 10-30 191 CM 90 KGS Broke his leg ,missed a year great rehab would have gone top 10 .
Aidyn Johnson FORWARD 18 20-50 184 CM 75 KGS FAST tackles strongly , very evasive ,very Brad hill like.
Mathew Allen FORWARD 18 35-60 193 CM 72 KGS L\footer, light in weight but big frame , prolific goal kicker,big upside.
Dylan Smith DEFENDER 18 40-99 197CM 85 KGS Very mobile , elite runner dual sided,make good decisions .
Joshua Schoenfeld MID 18 50-99 187CM 75KGS Peel boy,elite runner good both sides,calm with the ball in hand hits targets
Mitchell Cox MID 18 60-99 181CM 78KGS Vic country loves to run with ball hits targets ,breaks tackles .
Kieran Agius FORWARD 18 SMOKEY 188 CM 82KGS L/Footer has serious agility,great hands and is a beautiful kick for goal .
Stephen Tahana DEF\MID 18 SMOKEY 183CM 77KGS This kid could be anything ,great hands super quick evasive good kick .
Brett Blair FORWARD 18 SMOKEY 189CM 82KGS Geelong Falcons leading goal kicker .
Marcus Adams DEF \FORWARD 22 SMOKEY 192CM 95 KGS Well known to all ,swingman
Darcy Cameron FOR\RUCK 19 SMOKEY 202CM 87KGS This kid is in my eyes special Eagles have their eye on him .Contested marking goal kicker and he monster'd Hannath .

 

[wayToGo_]

Do people really think the talls are too risky in this draft? Is it any more risky than us heading in to the 2016 season without much KPP depth? What if we were to get injuries to two of A.Pearce, Dawson, and Johnson? We are already going to be managing Johnson as it is. I suppose we do have Silvagni but not much else. And similarly with our forward line. I think there a handful of solid potential KPPs in the draft that might slot in nicely and will likely be available at our picks. I just don't get why we would bother too much with midfielders or sml defenders/forwards this draft because we do at least have some depth in those areas. KPP options I am liking (at various picks) are Himmelberg, Glass-McCasker, Skinner, Moore, Adams, Coughlan, Hartley. Not much of a fan of B.McKay or Allen, Burton maybe too risky for us and if Collins is still available at our first pick I will eat my laptop. Suspect we will have at least 4 live picks - surely 2 or 3 of these should be KPPs?

 

[theGav56]

Do people really think the talls are too risky in this draft? Is it any more risky than us heading in to the 2016 season without much KPP depth? What if we were to get injuries to two of A.Pearce, Dawson, and Johnson? We are already going to be managing Johnson as it is. I suppose we do have Silvagni but not much else. And similarly with our forward line. I think there a handful of solid potential KPPs in the draft that might slot in nicely and will likely be available at our picks. I just don't get why we would bother too much with midfielders or sml defenders/forwards this draft because we do at least have some depth in those areas. KPP options I am liking (at various picks) are Himmelberg, Glass-McCasker, Skinner, Moore, Adams, Coughlan, Hartley. Not much of a fan of B.McKay or Allen, Burton maybe too risky for us and if Collins is still available at our first pick I will eat my laptop. Suspect we will have at least 4 live picks - surely 2 or 3 of these should be KPPs?

I see it pretty much the same. But if an outstanding player is still available at our pick that all changes.

 

[rodney hoo]

Darcy Cameron FOR\RUCK 19 SMOKEY 202CM 87KGS This kid is in my eyes special Eagles have their eye on him .Contested marking goal kicker and he monster'd Hannath .

There is a bit wrong here, the kids 20, 100 plus kilo and played most year wafl reserves. IMO as slow and lack of agility as Hannath has he's far better than Cameron. At best he could be rookie listed but I don't see afl in this kid. I believe Appness will be the forward ruck of the future and Clarke the main ruck.

Just Cameron test results at the state screening, they're very average, nearly last in all areas.

 

[Freo Dr]

Dylan Smith sounds good. A running KPD is exactly what we should be chasing - more likely to get a decent one at our pick and can release AP forward or provide much needed depth for MJ and Dawson short term. Still also like Marcus though

 

[Ysaye]

Dylan Smith sounds good. A running KPD is exactly what we should be chasing - more likely to get a decent one at our pick and can release AP forward or provide much needed depth for MJ and Dawson short term. Still also like Marcus though

Dylan Smith has played mostly KPF and I think that is where he is best suited - See Quigley's review in the draft section. One of him or Allen or Adams would be good. Still would prefer Burton with the first pick but as I think Mick Jagger and Keith Richards said you can't always get what you want.

 

[rodney hoo]

Dylan Smith has played mostly KPF and I think that is where he is best suited - See Quigley's review in the draft section. One of him or Allen or Adams would be good. Still would prefer Burton with the first pick but as I think Mick Jagger and Keith Richards said you can't always get what you want.

But if you try some time you get what you need.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

Dylan Smith has played mostly KPF and I think that is where he is best suited - See Quigley's review in the draft section. One of him or Allen or Adams would be good. Still would prefer Burton with the first pick but as I think Mick Jagger and Keith Richards said you can't always get what you want.

But if you start him up, if you start him up he'll never stop.

 

[Docker82]

Most of the key forwards at our picks will be very speculative. The one exception is Burton. Really hope he falls to us.

On the other hand I think Glass-McCasker just seems like the sort of KPP we'd draft. Most of our talls we've drafted have been elite runners for their size (Taberner, Pearce, Vandeluer, Hurley etc).

Hopefully both slide to our first/second rounders respectively and we can also grab a mature aged defender later on. It'd make me very happy about this year's draft.

 

[Mr Peabody]

Sam Landsberger of the Herald Sun and Paige Cardona of Footy Prophet both have us taking Tom Cole with our first pick.

Can't link in the Herald Sun article.

27. FREMANTLE
Tom Cole (Bendigo Pioneers)
H: 185cm W: 76kg
Midfield/halfback
Played in most positions but hurt teams most coming out of defence. Improved sharply this year and a low-maintenance kid, which will appeal to Ross Lyon.
The twist: The Dockers would love to go tall but who’s left? If GWS academy player Harrison Himmelberg is available expect Fremantle to try and jag him here.

Footy Prophet - http://footyprophet.com/paiges-afl-phantom-draft-edition-three/

27: Fremantle – Tom Cole
Height: 185cm, Weight: 76kg, DOB: 28/08/1997
Recruited from: Bendigo Pioneers
Range: 20-40
Position: Medium Defender/Midfielder
A raging bull of a defender/midfielder who likes to set the tone early in his aggression. Quite a rugged player who shows passion and pride for the jumper, and rarely has his colours lowered. A talented user of the ball by hand or by foot, and has shown he has tremendous versatility in his game to play an array of positions. Took the step-up to VFL level with ease with Geelong and didn’t look out of place. A combative role-player who goes about his footy with a competitive and fierce edge.

39: Fremantle – Jesse Glass-McCasker
Height: 198cm, Weight: 95kg, DOB: 03/01/1997
Recruited from: Swan Districts
Draft Range: 25-40
Position: Key Position Defender/Forward
Tall, strong defender who plays predominately as a stopper. Covers the ground well, and has a sturdy athletic profile. Has shown he can swing forward and provide a target deep forward, and looms as a designated swing-man at AFL level. Positions himself nicely in a one-on-one battle, isn’t shifted under the ball and times his leads nicely. Isn’t afraid to take a mark in defence and conversely up forward he is good overhead. Really rate his spoiling game, and his ability to drop off his man to kill a contest elsewhere. Has the agility of a midfielder.

53: Fremantle – Matthew Allen
Height: 193cm, Weight: 92kg, DOB: 19/02/1997
Recruited from:
Draft Range: 40-60
Position: Key Position Forward
Bullocking key forward who isn’t afraid to throw himself into a pack as if he were going human ten pin bowling. Run’s in straight lines like a freight train and strikes an imposing figure as a lead-up forward. Uses the footy well by foot, win’s critical one-on-one battles and is a strong mark overhead. Some believe Allen could gravitate into the midfield as a tall midfielder as he continues to develop – and it’s certainly not beyond him. Really rate his ceiling in terms of future development.

 

[Taylor]

JG-M is an agile, high leaping, high marking ball burner.

Has the tools to be a really useful tall.

 

[Scham]

Cole
JGM
Allen

Would be a fairly good outcome. Apparently clubs are very divided on JGM so it'll be interesting to see how our guys rate him. Allen had a good champs and in one game beat Keiren Collins. A left footer who looks and plays like Jack Riewoldt. Would appear to be a bargain at 53.

 

[Swan Districts Kid]

I just had a look at Matthew Allens draft profile - looks really good - would be very happy to land him.

 

[Scham]

If you read Quigley's rating of this year's draft, there are shit loads of talls that we can take, it's just a matter of which one we rate the highest.

 

[Chris25]

Dylan Smith has played mostly KPF and I think that is where he is best suited - See Quigley's review in the draft section.

I tend to think Dylan Smith is best suited as a KPD. I don't think he's dominant enough as a forward, he's a bit like Matt Taberner - has some AFL level attributes, but not the overall package to be the main guy. But down back, I like his athleticism and strong hands overhead.

I do suggest having a good read of Quigley's whole draft. He's the only draft watcher on BigFooty that I put any real stock in.

 

[Bad Brain]

Seems to be a heck of a lot of KP options in this draft. Michael Hartley sounds like a winner...

 

[Chris25]

Seems to be a heck of a lot of KP options in this draft. Michael Hartley sounds like a winner...

I really like this draft for tall defenders. It's why I don't understand why a club would reach on Ben McKay so early - I'd much rather any of Glass McCasker, Smith, Skinner, Surman, Firns, Buykx Smith, Gardiner, Coughlan. There are so many young defenders who could be had late or as rookies. And then you have the mature aged guys - Hartley, Keough, Adams, Brown.

It's just tall forwards is where it's lacking. For us, I'd be looking at the sort of 190-194cm forwards like Allen, Moore and Himmelberg. Maybe someone like Jordan Dawson as a shorter option. No project 200cm talls for me.

 

[Dockernut]

I really like this draft for tall defenders. It's why I don't understand why a club would reach on Ben McKay so early - I'd much rather any of Glass McCasker, Smith, Skinner, Surman, Firns, Buykx Smith, Gardiner, Coughlan. There are so many young defenders who could be had late or as rookies. And then you have the mature aged guys - Hartley, Keough, Adams, Brown.

It's just tall forwards is where it's lacking. For us, I'd be looking at the sort of 190-194cm forwards like Allen, Moore and Himmelberg. Maybe someone like Jordan Dawson as a shorter option. No project 200cm talls for me.

Thoughts on Callum Moore, Chris? Looks lightning fast and really goal hungry for a 193cm prospect.

 

[Chris25]

Thoughts on Callum Moore, Chris? Looks lightning fast and really goal hungry for a 193cm prospect.

He's one I like in the second and third rounds. Was almost drafted by Sydney last year on the back of hardly any TAC Cup games. As you say, quick and athletic for his size. Can create mismatches with his unique skill set. Something like a Tom Lynch from Adelaide as the third tall, high forward.

Although having said that, some think he could be developed as a defender. A little like Jono Marsh from Collingwood, similar strengths and weaknesses.

 

[Bastyy]

Callum Twomey is putting up his Phantom Draft tonight if anyway likes his drafts.


Also Chris, what's your thoughts on Lachlan Tizani, he's 189cm and I really like the guy, would there be any chance that Freo might bid on him on draft night?