Review 2015 Final List Changes

[Squibbs]

Farewell to the 4 Matt's, the 2 Chris', the 2 Nathan's and Ricky

 

[CaptchaProofBot]

I like Arnott, got plenty of mongrel in him, won't fall over in a gentle breeze, penetrating kick, why did they let him go ?

 

[TigerMoz1973]

I like Arnott, got plenty of mongrel in him, won't fall over in a gentle breeze, penetrating kick, why did they let him go ?

Not good enough I guess. I liked him too...

 

[Charlie Pannam]

I wonder if any of the delisted players are being sounded out to play for the 2's next year. I assume most of them will get better offers
Matty Dea lining up for Williamstown 2016.

 

[johnno77]

I like Arnott, got plenty of mongrel in him, won't fall over in a gentle breeze, penetrating kick, why did they let him go ?

Terrible decision maker, poor discipline, average skills.

Deal breaker was the haircut.

 

[jreesosb]

I've got nothing to do this morning before working later so I ended up watching Townsends highlights again. I'd never heard of him before he came to Richmond but he's one of my new faves Reckon he'll make an immediate impact

 

[Neen]

I see the Trade Period as an opportunity to improve the list, and also be a time that we could have lost players (Free Agency, poached or traded).

Retention 5/5 - The only players we lost were due to retirements, or players that had little or no impact on this season
Recuitment 3/5 - No big fish. We threw the line out, but lost our bait. Yarran will be good for us. Not sure on Townsend / Moore, but they are what we needed. Drafting Rioli was a good outcome, Markov looks promising and the rest are speculative, but fill the needs.

8/10 - I'm happy we didn't fall for the hype around Treloar or Bennell. Retention was just as important as improving the list - and we have done well - The list appears to be stronger. Admittedly I wish Foley and Newman were 10 years younger and still on the list..

 

[theflea]

I like Arnott, got plenty of mongrel in him, won't fall over in a gentle breeze, penetrating kick, why did they let him go ?

Couldn't get the footy at AFL level.

 

[JR82]

I see the Trade Period as an opportunity to improve the list, and also be a time that we could have lost players (Free Agency, poached or traded).

Retention 5/5 - The only players we lost were due to retirements, or players that had little or no impact on this season
Recuitment 3/5 - No big fish. We threw the line out, but lost our bait. Yarran will be good for us. Not sure on Townsend / Moore, but they are what we needed. Drafting Rioli was a good outcome, Markov looks promising and the rest are speculative, but fill the needs.

8/10 - I'm happy we didn't fall for the hype around Treloar or Bennell. Retention was just as important as improving the list - and we have done well - The list appears to be stronger. Admittedly I wish Foley and Newman were 10 years younger and still on the list..

what we wouldn't give to be Drafting Richo now.....

Couldn't get the footy at AFL level.

wasn't tearing the VFL a new one either....

 

[peterbuch74]

what we wouldn't give to be Drafting Richo now.....

Could you imagine a 27yo Richo on the wing? Yarran/Houli/Vlas out of the backline to Richo on the wing, streaming forward to Reiwoldt/Vickery with Edwards/Rioli at their feet.

Throw in Leon Cameron in his prime too

 

[Calcium Man]

Could you imagine a 27yo Richo on the wing? Yarran/Houli/Vlas out of the backline to Richo on the wing, streaming forward to Reiwoldt/Vickery with Edwards/Rioli at their feet.

Throw in Leon Cameron in his prime too

TBH i'd love Coughlan back at his best right now, inside beast.

 

[peterbuch74]

TBH i'd love Coughlan back at his best right now, inside beast.

I love Cogga, but to be honest, I don't think we ever really got to see his best.

 

[Hot tigers]

With so many developing players on our list and rookied i think its going to be very hard next year and years after to decipher which players to axe...

The past 2 years we have seen retirements and delisting some obvious types (Gordon, Arnott IMO), other than big Ivvy and Chappy we don't have many other older folks so we will need to make some calls on some younger guys/kids to ensure we delist the 3 as required each year..

Very happy with the rejuvenation of our list, just means we have really changed the composition of our list last few years!

 

[Infamy]

With so many developing players on our list and rookied i think its going to be very hard next year and years after to decipher which players to axe...

The past 2 years we have seen retirements and delisting some obvious types (Gordon, Arnott IMO), other than big Ivvy and Chappy we don't have many other older folks so we will need to make some calls on some younger guys/kids to ensure we delist the 3 as required each year..

Very happy with the rejuvenation of our list, just means we have really changed the composition of our list last few years!

Maybe this means we can trade players out for picks in return rather than just delisting.

 

[Hot tigers]

Maybe this means we can trade players out for picks in return rather than just delisting.

Yeah absolutely, see this as a good opportunity.

We have improved our list yet with a huge amount more upside... In saying that if a number of these X factor (C.Moore, Chol, Menedue, even guys like short, George, beanie etc) kids don't realize their potential it could be argued our list has gone backwards.

Either way exciting times and the mindset come end of year will have to be different due to list age and development etc..

 

[theflea]

How long did Lloyd get in his new contract?

 

[Wackelpudding]

It will be nice if we could at least trade back into the 2nd round of the draft. We'll have quite a few KPFs floating around otherwise.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Arnott couldn't run , outside of that he was a very very good footballer .

 

[Bobsleder]

8/10 - I'm happy we didn't fall for the hype around Treloar or Bennell. Retention was just as important as improving the list - and we have done well - The list appears to be stronger. Admittedly I wish Foley and Newman were 10 years younger and still on the list..

Apart from Turdloar picking eddies muppets over us, it looks to have been a good summer of change. He (turd) is a ball magnet in the same vein as Hannerbury, so would have been a great addition to our mids.
Let's see how our new boys go when the real stuff starts, but I'm tipping Townsend will provide some grunt we need.

 

[GoTigers2015]

In 2 years have turned over 18 players (40% of the list).

Out:
Aaron Edwards
Brad Helbig
Brett O’Hanlon
Todd Banfield
Ben Darrou
Orren Stephenson
Cadeyn Williams
Daniel Jackson
Jake King

Chris Newman
Matthew Dea
Chris Knights
Ricky Petterd
Nathan Foley
Nathan Gordon
Matthew McDonough
Matthew Thomas
Matthew Arnot

In:
Taylor Hunt
Corey Ellis
Connor Menadue
Nathan Drummond
Dan Butler
Reece McKenzie
Jayden Short
Jason Castangna
Kane Lambert
Ivan Soldo

Chris Yarran
Jacob Townsend
Andrew Moore
Daniel Rioli
Oleg Markov
Nathan Broad
Callum Moore
Mabior Chol
Adam Marcon

Not lost too much quality compared to the talent that we have brought in. When you also factor in the improvement in most of the other players our list, we now have a stronger team and squad that compared two seasons ago. We should be able to compete with the big boys for a top 4 spot next season.

 

[RememberRoyce]

In 2 years have turned over 18 players (40% of the list).

Out:
Aaron Edwards
Brad Helbig
Brett O’Hanlon
Todd Banfield
Ben Darrou
Orren Stephenson
Cadeyn Williams
Daniel Jackson
Jake King

Chris Newman
Matthew Dea
Chris Knights
Ricky Petterd
Nathan Foley
Nathan Gordon
Matthew McDonough
Matthew Thomas
Matthew Arnot

In:
Taylor Hunt
Corey Ellis
Connor Menadue
Nathan Drummond
Dan Butler
Reece McKenzie
Jayden Short
Jason Castangna
Kane Lambert
Ivan Soldo

Chris Yarran
Jacob Townsend
Andrew Moore
Daniel Rioli
Oleg Markov
Nathan Broad
Callum Moore
Mabior Chol
Adam Marcon

Not lost too much quality compared to the talent that we have brought in. When you also factor in the improvement in most of the other players our list, we now have a stronger team and squad that compared two seasons ago. We should be able to compete with the big boys for a top 4 spot next season.

Not sure the 'ins' at the moment mean we are a top 4 team. The improvement of our current best 22 have shown they are. From those 'ins' which players are a top 4 player, disregarding that horrible 'P' word?
Yarran.
Hunt?
?
Don''t get me wrong, the 'outs' as 'outs' is great because there are only 2-3 who we can say 'wish he was in the team this year (as in when they were 25)'. But we don't know yet if we have upgraded IMO.

Mind you over the 2 months preseason form will show we have 40 top 4 players as everyone will be flying.

 

[mopsy]

Gave em a 5 and thought that was generous.

 

[DeeKaay]

I've got nothing to do this morning before working later so I ended up watching Townsends highlights again. I'd never heard of him before he came to Richmond but he's one of my new faves Reckon he'll make an immediate impact

Townsend is the Dan Jackson replacement, right down to the same number 23. I look forward to him belting a few of the opposition gun mid-fielders.

 

[JR82]

Townsend is the Dan Jackson replacement, right down to the same number 23. I look forward to him belting a few of the opposition gun mid-fielders.

Townsend 21 Lambert is 23

 

[NUFC Tiger]

Pretty happy with the list changes. Pending what happens with Dusty, I'd argue we only lost 1 best 22 player in 2015 (Newy) - who some would say was probably past it anyway and gain a potential elite talent in Yarran, a future best 22 player in Rioli, some potentially shrewd recyled players (we have a decent track record of turning into better players) plus a number of exciting youngsters and prospects. Outside of Newman's leadership and experience, we also lost the experience and professionalism of guys like Foley and Knights who's bodies were cooked either way plus some solid depth players like Dea, Petterd and Arnot.

Overall, I'd say our 2016 list is a bit stronger (both in top end talent and depth) than 2015.