List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

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Any possibility that SOS is trying to extract pick 12 in possible Menzel/Kerridge trade?
Or is pick 12 non-negotiable?

Carlton out - Menzel, 2 rd/3 rd pick ('16) - in - Pick 12, Kerridge
Adelaide out - pick 12, Kerridge in - Menzel, CFC's 2 rd /3 rd pick ('16)
You have lost me there , don't the Tiges have pick 12 :confused:
 

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Im starting to get my head around this menzel trade, essentially it would be menzel for kerridge and the GWS 4 providing we use pick 28 to get them. Worst case scenario, we get 19 for yarran and the have picks 19,20,21. Maybe turn a couple of those into a pick upgrade.
 

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If Henderson fails at Geelong and Geelong's 1st pick nets us a gun I can see Fev making an impact at Carlton for years to come
Henderson will not fail at Geelong. He may have had a bad 2015, but he is an excellent footballer, he will thrive at the Cats and we will watch on and wonder how we let him go.
 

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Hi AceAndy. Thought it was pick #12. Doh.
Blue_Fusion's corrected my error.
Not sure how to edit original post o_O
OK that makes sense now. :) There is an Edit Delete Report set of options that should show up under the post (not sure how long the Edit will stay visible for ?) and click on the Edit and you can alter your original post and save it.
 

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"Adelaide is believed to be on the verge of clinching a deal with Carlton that would see Troy Menzel join the Crows in exchange for Sam Kerridge and pick No.28.

The Blues are then expected to on-trade pick No.28 to the Giants for young quartet Lachie Plowman, Jed Lamb, Andrew Phillips and Liam Sumner.

- AFL Website"
 

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Take 2. Amended trade scenario...apologies (rookie error )

Any possibility that SOS is trying to extract pick #13 in possible Menzel/Kerridge trade?
Or is pick #13 non-negotiable?

Carlton out - Menzel, 2 rd/3 rd pick ('16) - in - Pick #13, Kerridge
Adelaide out - pick #13, Kerridge in - Menzel, CFC's 2 rd /3 rd pick ('16)
 

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"Adelaide is believed to be on the verge of clinching a deal with Carlton that would see Troy Menzel join the Crows in exchange for Sam Kerridge and pick No.28.

The Blues are then expected to on-trade pick No.28 to the Giants for young quartet Lachie Plowman, Jed Lamb, Andrew Phillips and Liam Sumner.

- AFL Website"
At the risk of repeating myself, without Tomlinson, the GWS trade doesn't excite me. If Tomlinson is part of that trade, it puts a completely different spin on it. That's where the value is.
 

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Henderson will not fail at Geelong. He may have had a bad 2015, but he is an excellent footballer, he will thrive at the Cats and we will watch on and wonder how we let him go.
We let him go because he's a Mummy's Boy and a Sell Out. In many ways he's our biggest Judas since Hamill.
 

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Would we offer 20, 21 and 28 to GWS for the 4 players and pick 8?
This would be trading them 2468 points and getting 1551 points plus the 4 players in return. Essentially valueing the 4 players at around the picks 19 to 20 mark in points value, which by the sounds of it is more than we've offered at present.....
 

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"Adelaide is believed to be on the verge of clinching a deal with Carlton that would see Troy Menzel join the Crows in exchange for Sam Kerridge and pick No.28.

The Blues are then expected to on-trade pick No.28 to the Giants for young quartet Lachie Plowman, Jed Lamb, Andrew Phillips and Liam Sumner.

- AFL Website"
This is an absolutely outstanding result for us. I can understand supporters being upset about this, I love Menzel as much as anyone but he doesn't defend that well and only averages 8 touches. I'd love to keep him but if we can bring in 5 good young players in that's a great result. Kerridge and Plowman can both seriously play, I have no question about that. Phillips is ok and allows us to delist Warnock, great result. Lamb I always liked and I think he could do what Menzel was doing for us but Sumner I like, genuine x factor, just needs to get his body right. That means we go to the draft with 1, 19?, 20, 21.... which could allow us to trade up to 8. This is such a bloody good result and I won't hear otherwise, potentially9-10 kids in with a brand new coach, that is how you rebuild! If you want a laugh, go on our Facebook page and look at what supporters are writing in, hilarious...
 

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The Menzel trade is so much wrong. Just to get that 28, to get GWS four. This isn't a JBHIFI sale.

Plowman is worth getting sure, but the other three are players that we should be looking to draft for, not trade.

It's just not smart.
 

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We let him go because he's a Mummy's Boy and a Sell Out. In many ways he's our biggest Judas since Hamill.
I understand he wanted out, and anyone who want out that bad, I'm happy to see the back of. But it doesn't change the fact that he is going to be a wonderful player for Geelong and we actually had him at our club.
 

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The Menzel trade is so much wrong. Just to get that 28, to get GWS four. This isn't a JBHIFI sale.

Plowman is worth getting sure, but the other three are players that we should be looking to draft for, not trade.

It's just not smart.
I get the feeling it is 20 for Plowman or 28 for the 4 of them
 

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According to Gleeson, Quayle and Niall at the age, Carlton came to us offering Menzel for Kerridge and 28 which seems... bizarre. But anyway.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/adelai...for-carltons-troy-menzel-20151020-gkdpn9.html

Lots of Crows fans pumping tyres for Kerridge, so I'll give you the other, more rooted in reality side of the story; when he wasn't injured this year, the reason he wasn't getting a game for us is because he was only half arsing it in the SANFL quite a bit, not putting in the sort of effort you need to put in at the reserves level to force AFL selection. He's not a bad player, but he's not a great player either - his greatest weapon is his endurance, which has made him a decent tagger, but otherwise he's not really exceptional at anything. Not a clarance machine, not fast, average kick out to 50m, decent mark, decent set shot, but can work hard when he wants to work hard. Nathan van Berlo mk 2, but without the leadership qualities.

e: not that I think Kerridge is a bad player, he has 150-200 game workman written all over him, I just think he's a bit of a vanilla player, and we have too many of those on our list, which is why I'm happy for us to trade him while he has some value.
 
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