2015 Trade/FA Discussion (cont. in Pt.2)

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No. I am happy to take on the advice of those who have, you know, actually seen him play. I've got a huge amount of time for Crusha as a junior footy observer and judge of talent. The bloke takes the time to package together video of young blokes and those videos try and give a balanced view of the player. He knows his stuff because he does his research.

In contrast, I find the faux experts at this time of year quite annoying. You know the ones - finding snippets of information posted by others and passing them off as their own. Pretending that reading the D&T board gives them some sort of lofty insight.

Writing off a player as a trade target when you clearly have never seen him before is really quite dismissive of those knowledgeable enough to form a view.
You lost the plot.

All I did was compare 2 players performances this season using footywire stats and player ratings. I did not discredit crusha video and by all means I'm grateful there are people like him taking the time to create videos like this.

The thing that offends me greatly, is a muppet like you telling me that "finding snippets of information posted by others and passing them off as their own." I have not claimed or declared the information as my own. I'm providing it as a reference to back up my comments I have made.

By the way I'm not claiming to be a expert. Anyone can identify a good player when they see one.
Last year I was banging on about get this bloke call Adam Saad.

I quoted "We have to get Adam Saad. This guy is going to be a quality AFL player and is a joint best and fairest winner for Coberg, VFL side at the age of 20."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2014-draft-discussion.1043311/page-130#post-36011902
 
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...is-up-in-the-air/story-fnp04d70-1227534120741



How dumb is Jon Anderson?

If the Crows match the offer they can still trade him he doesn't have to go into the PSD. How does this shit get published.

They should match it as well. Geelong would then have to trade at least their first rounder which is better than the compensation the Crows would get.
What he's saying is that they can match and keep him (if it were about money). If he still wants to go, they don't have to trade him to Geelong if they don't want to. They can say "No, you either stay or take your chances being picked up by Carlton or Lions, Melbourne etc." Geelong then have to price him out of the market.
 

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So instead of examining the stats and player ratings we should formulate a conclusion based on a 30 sec highlight youtube video of Jared Jansen and then conclude he has potential to be in our best 22. Is that what you are saying.
Who has done this? I certainly didn't.
 

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Who has done this? I certainly didn't.
You know I have a point. You can't formulate a players potential based on a 30 sec video. Take a player like Jacks Watts as a example. I'm sure I can find highlight video's of him showing potential in a 30 sec video, but his stats demonstrate of him being a inconsistent player. Then you must take into account factors such as age, role, injuries, game time and experience.
 

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Pfft...Waldorf and Stadler...list cloggers. Played on past their prime and should have been traded much earlier. The real talent in that Muppets golden era was the Swedish Chef and Kermit. They carried the team.

And Miss Piggy was a glory seeking downhill skier. There, I said it.
 

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You know I have a point. You can't formulate a players potential based on a 30 sec video. Take a Jacks Watts as a example. I'm sure I can find highlight video's of him showing potential after being selected as a number 1 pick, but his stats demonstrate of being a inconsistent player. Then you must take into account factors such as age, role, injuries, game time and experience.
Yes I think everyone agrees with you when you say you can't formulate a players potential based on a 30 second video. No one including myself is arguing that.

The point I am arguing is I haven't seen anyone do that?
 

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You lost the plot.

All I did was compare 2 players performances this season using footywire stats and player ratings. I did not discredit crusha video and by all means I'm grateful there are people like him taking the time to create videos like this.

The thing that offends me greatly, is a muppet like you telling me that "finding snippets of information posted by others and passing them off as their own." I have not claimed or declared the information as my own. I'm providing it as a reference to back up my comments I have made.

By the way I'm not claiming to be a expert. Anyone can identify a good player when they see one.
Last year I was banging on about get this bloke call Adam Saad.

I quoted "We have to get Adam Saad. This guy is going to be a quality AFL player and is a joint best and fairest winner for Coberg, VFL side at the age of 20."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2014-draft-discussion.1043311/page-130#post-36011902
Sorry to get all Mean Girls here,but the reason I get annoyed with posters like yourself is that you're willing to give your own opinion on a player/matter,but if someone else has a opposite opinion to said player you turn to childish name calling. I recall a few weeks ago I had a perfectly reasonable opinion on Jack Redden as a player and your response was "Shut up, you don't even know what you're talking about". Can't stand that kind of crap, totally unnecessary.
 

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Yes I think everyone agrees with you when you say you can't formulate a players potential based on a 30 second video. No one including myself is arguing that.

The point I am arguing is I haven't seen anyone do that?
Are you sure?

Weren't you formulating the potential of Jared Jansens based on a 30 sec video created by crusha?

"If he can produce goals like this at senior level he would be a welcome addition! Wow that second goal with the strong stoppage work and link up play beforehand was very impressive."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2015-trade-fa-discussion.1080214/page-339

P.S - For those Muppets reading this, I'm grateful by the video's created by Crusha and by no means criticizing his work. Keep up the good work crusha.
 
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Swan just confirmed that Tom Bell will announce his desire to be traded to us. Said there is one other player in the system who will do the same... time to speculate!
Jansen.

Two big mature bodies into our midfield/flanks.

One inside, one more outside. Good bit of depth recruiting if they came at a reasonable price.
 
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