List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Free agency and draft rumours

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Carlisle has to play down back, if he isn't lead to the footy he's tits on a bull.
Exactly.

Carlisle wants to be a backman. He is a natural defender. He will leave Essendon if he gets good coin and if he knows he will play in his preferred position.

He isn't a forward and it's been said how he would rather play down back but Essendon keep trying to turn him into a forward.
 
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Exactly.

Carlisle wants to be a backman. He is a natural defender. He will leave Essendon if he gets good coin and if he knows he will play in his preferred position.

He isn't a forward and it's been said how he would rather play down back but Essendon keep trying to turn him into a forward.
* Paddy Ryder is drafted in the first round as a pure ruckman wants to play in the ruck, leaves Essendon to play in ruck as they are too stubborn to give him the minutes in the ruck he desires.

* Jake Carlisle is drafted as a defender early in the second round and wants to return to the backline where he plays his best footy (2012 rising star nom in defence and stellar year in 2013 in defence before being switched forward as a pinch hitter), isn't a natural forward but has a permanent role there in 2015. His confidence as a forward is shot. "May" be sounding out other clubs who will play him in defence where he is much a more confident player but club refuses to make the switch.

* Ryan Shoenmakers is drafted late first round, spends 6 years developing as a kpd after being drafted as a forward, is much maligned after being thrown in the deep and as a kpd with limited support and confidence is shot as he is far from a natural defender. Club puts his name on the trade table after recruiting more adequate depth in his current position. He begs to stay at the club and prove his worth. Club moves him back to the forward line where he seems to be enjoying his football again although is still yet to really cement his place in the side.

Tells you something about both clubs and coaches doesn't it!
 

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* Paddy Ryder is drafted in the first round as a pure ruckman wants to play in the ruck, leaves Essendon to play in ruck as they are too stubborn to give him the minutes in the ruck he desires.

* Jake Carlisle is drafted as a defender early in the second round and wants to return to the backline where he plays his best footy (2012 rising star nom in defence and stellar year in 2013 in defence before being switched forward as a pinch hitter), isn't a natural forward but has a permanent role there in 2015. His confidence as a forward is shot. "May" be sounding out other clubs who will play him in defence where he is much a more confident player but club refuses to make the switch.

* Ryan Shoenmakers is drafted late first round, spends 6 years developing as a kpd after being drafted as a forward, is much maligned after being thrown in the deep and as a kpd with limited support and confidence is shot as he is far from a natural defender. Club puts his name on the trade table after recruiting more adequate depth in his current position. He begs to stay at the club and prove his worth. Club moves him back to the forward line where he seems to be enjoying his football again although is still yet to really cement his place in the side.

Tells you something about both clubs and coaches doesn't it!
Tells you more about Schoey I would have thought.
 

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* Paddy Ryder is drafted in the first round as a pure ruckman wants to play in the ruck, leaves Essendon to play in ruck as they are too stubborn to give him the minutes in the ruck he desires.
He had been Essendons starting Ruckman for the past 2 years....he didn't leave because of that, it was a rat jumping of a sinking ship.
He gets less ruck time now at Port Adelaide than he was at Essesndon.
 
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What are the chances of us bringing Shiel over? Watched him for the first time on the weekend.. absolute jet.
None for mine.

Giants will tie him up very quickly. He's surely in their top five players and they have cap room no doubt.
 

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I wonder who will be our next 'Big' ruckman?

It seems, to win a flag this Century, we need to have a ruckman with the nickname 'Big' on the list. Big Max & Big Boy have served us well.

I'm just hoping that 'Big Schoey' sticks around for another couple of years!
One of the commentators in the Box Hill game on Se7en on the weekend called Marc Pittonet 'Big Pittonet'. So there. All settled.
 

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I think Treloar will stay for less. They have built a brilliant culture up there at the Giants. Recruited strong leaders from the start and their kids all have a bit of go about them.

Chalk and cheese with GC, recruiting Ablett may end up doing more bad than good. Its their young guns Hawthorn should be targeting.
 
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I think Treloar will stay for less. They have built a brilliant culture up there at the Giants. Recruited strong leaders from the start and their kids all have a bit of go about them.

Chalk and cheese with GC, recruiting Ablett may end up doing more bad than good. Its their young guns Hawthorn should be targeting.
Popular opinion suggests that they now can't afford to keep all of Shiel, Treloer, Coniglio, Kelly etc.
 
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Popular opinion suggests that they now can't afford to keep all of Shiel, Treloer, Coniglio, Kelly etc.
Logic says that doesn't it. With the signing of Cameron & co, they've spent some cash!

But still, someone's gotta want to leave, & be prepared to take less & wait a bit to play with us (aka john o)

I see our biggest issue being that these kids very probably won't walk straight into our team, where as they will with most other teams.
 

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Dylan Sheil just bloody re-signed with GWS
Until the end of 2017. Interesting. Seems like many of the rumours were true in that he was only going to commit to a further 2-3 years and then re-assess (tip of the hat to you List Manager).

Geez. The 2017 season is going to be full of speculation again with him and Kelly nearing the ends of their contracts.

You'd expect Treloar would stay after this resigning. Their cap must be starting to hit the edges now.
 
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Until the end of 2017. Interesting. Seems like many of the rumours were true in that he was only going to commit to a further 2-3 years and then re-assess (tip of the hat to you List Manager).

Geez. The 2017 season is going to be full of speculation again with him and Kelly nearing the ends of their contracts.

You'd expect Treloar would stay after this resigning. Their cap must be starting to hit the edges now.
I'm now half expecting Treloer to go. Pies going hard.
The trading landscape has changed significantly. Anyone can go anywhere at any time now.

Targetting Carlisle makes sense (always has) and the news last night leads me to think he is gone too. We need to start thinking of ready made replacements for Lake and Gibson.

I'd still prefer we chase and land an emerging star midfielder though. Carlisle is the one I'd want if the club wanted to go down the experienced KPP path.
 

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Exactly.

Carlisle wants to be a backman. He is a natural defender. He will leave Essendon if he gets good coin and if he knows he will play in his preferred position.

He isn't a forward and it's been said how he would rather play down back but Essendon keep trying to turn him into a forward.
This is spot on. He will play in defense if drafted by the doggies ... the team he grew up passionately supporting.
 
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