Resource 2016 Annual Reports Thread - Club Comparisons post #002

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  1. Muggs

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    Yes, but if it's publicly known how much limit you have available it does change your negotiation power.

    The clubs will be broadcasting their free budget if this is brought in.

    Last thing you want to do if you recruiting or even contracting someone is tell them your budget.
     

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    The other problem with releasing future contractual obligations to players is that if you have one guy on an especially long contract (e.g. Franklin), and you have to say that in 6 years time you are committed to 950K, in 7 years 1050K, etc. then you're effectively revealing that players contract terms.

    While some might be in favor of that, it would be a massive change in current practice.
     
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    Jfyi someone asked at tge rfc agm last night why only a concise report is ever put on the rfc website, and the answer was because only 3-4 people ever asked for the full one.

    Peeps asked for the full one to be posted from now on, and the board indicated there was no reason not to that they could think of. With ours yet to be published, hopefully the full one will be available this year
     
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    Its been up since November 23.

     
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    That's odd - was said last night it was still not available on the clubs website and there were complaints about why the delay
     
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    Sydney Swans Limited has reported a net profit of $53,224 for the year ending 31 October 2016 – profit before depreciation was almost $800,000. Net assets were $2,085,819.

    The result comes after substantial compensation payments to ANZ Stadium to bring all home games back to the SCG one year earlier than contracted, along with reduced AFL funding and the Club’s contribution to the AFL equalisation funding.

    “Membership grew by more than 15 per cent to a record 56,523 members, which included almost 5,000 ANZ Stadium members who we were delighted to welcome after our games returned to the SCG.

    “In total, we welcomed more than 13,000 new members, while more than 12,000 signed on from Melbourne, interstate and overseas.

    “Average crowds at the SCG increased to 33,425 over 11 games, which is up from 31,528 over eight games in 2015. Meanwhile our Round 17 game against Hawthorn drew a crowd of 42,314, which was the third largest crowd ever to watch an AFL game at the SCG and the highest at the venue since 1997. Over the duration of the season home attendances were the third best ever.

    http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2016-12-15/swans-post-a-profit
     
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    Port Adelaide chairman David Koch today announced the club has recorded an operating profit in consecutive years for the first time in almost a decade.

    The 2016 profit of $14,840 after depreciation represents a strong financial performance in a challenging on field year, and while it was down on the previous year’s result of $211,302, it re-affirms the strength of the club’s business model implemented by the current board in 2013.

    The achievement of a profit against the backdrop of a disappointing on-field performance is a testament to the club’s loyal membership base - which recorded a year on year increase of 6% - support of Port Adelaide’s highly engaged corporate community and the extremely hard working off-field team, which is amongst the leanest in the AFL.

    http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2016-12-16/2016-financial-result-port
     
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    Incredible work by Kochie to turn us from bleeding money worse than Brisbane, to financially viable even in back to back down years.
     

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    Agreed, great to see a footy club capable of being profitable after two consecutive down years - AND in the final year of the current TV deal to boot.
     
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    Very happy with the clubs performance especially with the anz payments
     
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    They are seriously good numbers for the dogs.

    They have taken the opportunity to write-off an asset impairment against an extremely healthy operating profit, reduced borrowings by some $1.5 million, and have doubled their cash in bank.

    Major revenue increases:
    AFL: up $1.5m
    Gate: up $0.5m
    Bus Dev (sponsorship?): up $1.6m
    Membership: up $1.3m
    Hospitality: up $0.5m
    Events: up $1.2m
    Consumer products (merchandising?): up $1.5m

    In rude health.
     
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    I agree, though it obviously helps winning $1.2m in AFL prize money (though I understand half of that goes to the players) and all the merchandising sales and the like that flow from the premiership.

    We still have a substantial amount of borrowings but hopefully these will be eliminated or greatly reduced in the next year or two.

    2017 is the last year we have to fork out 824k or so for gaming machine entitlements and then we will have another five years of profiting from them without cost. That and better returns from Etihad are all big pluses though I suspect we will get less club future funding from the AFL as a result of any improved deal.
     
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    All Victorian sides have now issued reports. Non Victorian clubs will be added as they come available through ASIC.

    Statements
    Annual Reports
    Consolidated Profit/Loss
    • Hawthorn - $4,660,824
    • Geelong - $2,255,116
    • Western Bulldogs - $1,773,234
    • St Kilda - $1,107,311
    • Melbourne - $720,218
    • North Melbourne - $83,039
    • Richmond - ($80,257)
    • Carlton ($769,265)
    • Brisbane - ($1,783,506)
    • Collingwood - ($2,622,623)
    • Essendon - ($9,825,37)
    Revenue
    • Collingwood - $71,475,457
    • Hawthorn - $69,779,234
    • Geelong - $54,650,813
    • Carlton - $ 54,390,069
    • Essendon - $53,499, 545
    • Brisbane - $48,707,494
    • Western Bulldogs - $48,417,018
    • Melbourne - $47,552,639
    • Richmond - $47,538,233
    • St Kilda - $39,928,568
    • North Melbourne - $38,548,700
    Revenue without Pokies/Hospitality
    • Hawthorn - $51,440,437
    • Collingwood - $49,819,159
    • Geelong - $45,590,438
    • Western Bulldogs - $41,723,167
    • Richmond - $40,320,387
    • Essendon - $39,959,539
    • North Melbourne - $38,000,000 (statement only)
    • Carlton - $36,440,868
    • Melbourne - $35,359,354
    • Brisbane - $33,514,529
    • St Kilda - $37,859,436
    AFL Revenue
    • St Kilda - $17,125,673 (shown as AFL distributions and "other" income)
    • Brisbane - $16,753,407
    • Western Bulldogs - $15,068,488 (includes 1.2 mill prize money, 3.8m future fund)
    • North Melbourne - $13,803,488
    • Melbourne - $12,758,742
    • Richmond - $10,478,488
    • Carlton - $ 10,238,834
    • Essendon - $9,824,470
    • Hawthorn - $9,788,488
    • Geelong - $9,512,533
    • Collingwood - $8,888,484
    Membership Revenue
    • Collingwood - $22,565,759 (includes matchday)
    • Geelong - $14,341,800 (includes gate reciepts)
    • Hawthorn - $12,422,423
    • Essendon - $10,100,110
    • Carlton - $ 8,618,194
    • North Melbourne - $7,263,161
    • Melbourne - $7,578,057 (includes fundraising)
    • St Kilda - $6,646,174
    • Western Bulldogs - $6,412,414
    • Brisbane - $5,602,557 (includes Gate reciepts)
    Membership Revenue per Member
    • Geelong - $274.77 (includes gate reciepts)
    • Brisbane - $240.59 (includes gate reciepts)
    • Melbourne - $193.58 (includes fundraising)
    • Essendon - $175.67
    • st Kilda - $174.44
    • Cartlon - $171.92
    • Hawthorn - $164.86
    • North Melbourne - $$160.98
    • Western Bulldogs - $159.99
    Sponsorship Revenue
    • Collingwood - $17,024,436
    • Geelong - $16,079,494 (includes fundraising)
    • Hawthorn - $14,947,662
    • Carlton - $13,623,204
    • Essendon - $12 ,493 ,197
    • Richmond - $10,575,059
    • Western Bulldogs - $9,684,219
    • Brisbane - $9,599,634
    • Melbourne - $8,916,023
    • North Melbourne - $8,559,657
    • St Kilda - $5,838,157
    Pokies and Hospitality Revenue
    • Collingwood - $21,656,298
    • Hawthorn - $18,338,797
    • Carlton - $ 17,949,201
    • Brisbane - $15,192,965
    • Essendon - $13,540,006
    • Melbourne - $12,193,285
    • Geelong - $9,060,375
    • Richmond - $7,217,846
    • St Kilda - $2,069,132
    Pokies and Hospitality Profit
    • Collingwood - $5,501,431
    • Brisbane - $4,207,183
    • Melbourne - $3,620,569
    • Carlton - $2,760,309
    • Essendon - $2,456,768
    • Western Bulldogs - $1,655,519
    Gate Reciepts and Match Returns
    • Melbourne - $4,592,047
    • Hawthorn - $4,372,640
    • North Melbourne - $2,265,583
    • Western Bulldogs - $2,109,250
    • Carlton - $ 1,909,420
    • St Kilda - $1,623,290
    • Essendon - $216 , 850
    Merchandise
    • Hawthorn - $4,020,932
    • Western Bulldogs - $2,659,877
    • Essendon - $2,268,964
    • North Melbourne - $1,764,335
    • Geelong - $1,742,436
    • Carlton - $ 1,093,580
    • Melbourne - $986,269
    • Brisbane - $817,849
    • St Kilda - $791,796
    Football Department Spend
    • Geelong - $23,172,565
    • Essendon - $22,981,249
    • Collingwood - $22,959,708
    • Richmond - $22,794,109
    • Western Bulldogs - $22,734,238
    • North Melbourne - $22,337,950
    • Brisbane - $22,236,384
    • Melbourne - $21,927,456
    • Carlton - $ 21,598,464
    • St Kilda - $20,724,493
    • Hawthorn - Not completely defined.
    AFL Equalisation Levy
    • Collingwood - $1,405,904
    • Hawthorn - $1,301,588
    • Geelong - $390,000
    • Essendon - $350,004
    Assets
    • Hawthorn - $62,414,117
    • Collingwood - $52,857,370
    • Essendon - $47, 817, 356
    • Western Bulldogs - $42,108,053
    • Geelong - $35,036,809
    • Richmond - $29,521,323
    • Carlton - $24,691,073
    • Melbourne - $17,484,015
    • North Melbourne - $15,911,962
    • St Kilda - $14,160,615
    • Brisbane - $8,195,809
    Liabilities
    • Geelong - $25,105,827
    • Hawthorn - $20,814,863
    • Essendon - $20,363,757
    • Brisbane - $19,067,673
    • Collingwood - $17,546,328
    • Carlton - $16,550,678
    • Western Bulldogs - $16,040,904
    • St Kilda - $14,795,190
    • Melbourne - $12,644,379
    • North Melbourne - $6,164,116
    • Richmond - $5,430,252
    Equity
    • Hawthorn - $41,559,254
    • Collingwood - $35,311,042
    • Essendon - $27,453 , 599
    • Western Bulldogs - $26,067,149
    • Richmond - $24,091,071
    • Geelong - $9,930,982
    • North Melbourne - $9,747,846
    • Carlton - $8,140,395
    • Melbourne - $4,839,636
    • St Kilda - ($634,575)
    • Brisbane - ($10,871,864)
     
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    Membership revenue 7,263,161 (note 3)
    Membership 45,118 (table on page 3)
    Membership revenue per member: $160.98

    Membership expense: 3,348,008 (page 6)
    Net revenue per member: $86.78
     
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    Cheers.

    Dont care what the net is. Tell us nothing other than how lean an operation they run. Tell us nothing about the actual revenue paid per member.
     
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    We've discussed this before...I understand your point, but I figure all revenue a club makes only really counts if it goes towards the clubs primary purpose (football), therefore the net figure matters more. (same with sponsors, pokies, etc etc).
     
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    Yeah and Im not wanting to battle it out with the richmond crew again simply because their crew is the only one that reports it.
     
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    Please note: if you are a member of a non victorian side Id be very happy if some of you could ask your club for a copy of its annual report. At this stage they arent available through ASIC, and probably wont be for a few weeks yet, and it would save me 38 bucks a copy if you could share it with the rest of us.

    Thanks
     
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    Don't be such a tightarse.
     
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    38 bucks doesnt sound like much until you do it for 7 clubs and its cost you $260 a year.