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Biggies said:
Looking at those rankings, I wonder if Will Brodie is actually a chance to drop all the way to 16 (or 15 if we end up with that).

Could be huge if so.
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Have been thinking that he will might drop mainly due to a lot of the chatter around him going silent. Certain that it will pick up again as it nears the draft. Could he slide to us, most probably not, be very nice though.
 

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Brett Anderson's final top 50. Here's the 26-50 list. Top 25 releases Thursday.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2016/11/14/top-50-prospects-for-2016-afl-draft-26-50/

Note: I had to edit to fit into one post. More info/videos over at SEN link for those that are keen.

TOP 50 PROSPECTS FOR 2016 AFL DRAFT – 26-50
BY BRETT ANDERSON AN HOUR AGO

26. Brennan COX
Ht: 192.6cm | Wt: 91.6kg | Key Defender | Woodville-West Torrens

Draft range: 20-30.

What they say: “A superb athlete with a great vertical leap so he’s got those attributes but for him the trick will be showing and using those attributes more consistently. Got some upside but intensity for his size needs more development.” – Woodville-West Torrens talent manager Darren Hams.

27. Josh BATTLE
Ht: 192.0cm | Wt: 88.5kg | Key Forward | Dandenong Stingrays

Draft range: 18-30.

What they say: “Josh is a tall forward with elite running capabilities. At the next level he’ll be a third forward who will work over his opponent. Very professional off the field – an AFL player in the making.” – Dandenong Stingrays talent manager Mark Wheeler.

28. Willem DREW
Ht: 188.0cm | Wt: 79.3kg | Inside Midfielder | North Ballarat Rebels

Draft range: 25-50.

What they say: “Has been one of our most consistent players all year with his ability to win the contested ball at TAC level. He has played in the last three senior premierships for Koroit and this year was named best on ground in their Grand Final.” – North Ballarat Rebels talent manager Phil Partington.

29. Harrison MACREADIE
Ht: 195.5cm | Wt: 90.9kg | Utility | Henty/GWS Academy

Draft range: 25-45.

What they say: “Long-term I think he’s a midfielder but has shown great composure playing down back last year as a 17-year-old. He moved to Kings School in Sydney from Henty, which shows his maturity and he has done well there.” – NSW/ACT head of talent Darren Denneman.

30. Jordan GALLUCCI
Ht: 180.0cm | Wt: 77.5kg | Small Defender | Eastern Ranges

Draft range: 11-30.

What they say: “Jordy’s as good of an athlete as Andy McGrath – could be even better as an all-rounder and he could be the best athlete I’ve seen come through a TAC Cup system. I think he’s played his best footy behind the footy at this stage.” – Eastern Ranges talent manager Len Villani.

31. Joe ATLEY
Ht: 185.6cm | Wt: 83.3kg | Inside Midfielder | Bendigo Pioneers

Draft range: 25-40.

What they say: “Joe is the brother of North Melbourne’s Shaun and he’s a terrific leader with a great ability to win the ball inside the contest. Really worked to develop his outside game as well this season. I can see him playing across half-back to start but can work his way into the midfield down the track.” – Bendigo Pioneers coach Brett Henderson.

32. Sam WALKER
Ht: 185.1cm | Wt: 79.2kg | Medium Defender | Glenelg

Draft range: 35-50.

What they say: “Sam is a running half-back with an ability to create something from defence. Played on Will Hayward in the under-18 Grand Final and after conceding a few early goals he played really well for us.” – Glenelg senior coach Matt Lokan.

33. Harry MORRISON
Ht: 181.5cm | Wt: 77.6kg | Medium Defender | Murray Bushrangers

Draft range: 30-50.

What they say: “Harry has had some injuries but he’s a player we really like. Elite kick of the ball, elite decision maker and brings others into the game superbly well playing off half-back or through the wing. Good one-touch player who has enormous upside.” – Murray Bushrangers talent manager Lee Fraser.

34. Josh BEGLEY
Ht: 185.5cm | Wt: 96.1kg | Medium Forward | Eastern Ranges

Draft range: 30-45.

What they say: “We put it on him about three or four weeks into his year because we realised his not a one-trick pony as a stay-at-home goalsquare-type, and had a few more tricks than that. He has beautiful feel around the stoppages, really dynamic player and just powerful.” – Eastern Ranges talent manager Len Villani.

35. Patrick KERR
Ht: 193.4cm | Wt: 93.2kg | Key Forward | Oakleigh Chargers

Draft range: 19-40.

What they say: “Patty suffered in terms of what he was able to do this year because of school cricket commitments. If we had him for the entire year we were keen to get him up the ground and play him as our third tall forward. He has a terrific set of hands but we probably didn’t help him with the delivery.” – Oakleigh Chargers talent manager Craig Notman.

36. Kobe MUTCH
Ht: 186.1cm | Wt: 83.6kg | Outside Midfielder | Bendigo Pioneers/GWS Academy

Draft range: 20-35.

What they say: “A huge accumulator of the ball. Does everything pretty well but it would be a big bonus for him if he could add another dimension to enhance his impact on games. In saying that he’s an outstanding talent who I expect to play 200 games of AFL football.” Bendigo Pioneers coach Brett Henderson.

37. Brad SCHEER
Ht: 183.2cm | Wt: 83.7kg | Inside Midfielder | Palm Beach Currumbin/Gold Coast Academy

Draft range: 18-40.

What they say: “A brute inside midfielder who can shake a tackle. He’s a big game player and every time there is a big game, he will rise to the occasion and he is a genuine game day player – as a coach you love those types of players.” – Queensland high performance coach Adrian Fletcher.

38. Jack GRAHAM
Ht: 180.3cm | Wt: 81.1kg | Inside Midfielder | North Adelaide

Draft range: 20-40.

What they say: “A hard working midfielder who pushes himself to the contest throughout a game and is relentless in pursuit of the ball. Played reserves for us this year but has played a senior game despite the injury.” – North Adelaide football development manager Neil Sanders.

39. Bailey MORRISH
Ht: 185.9cm | Wt: 80.7kg | Hybrid Defender | Dandenong Stingrays

Draft range: 30-50.

What they say: “Bailey is an elite kick, with a great understanding of the game who reads the ball in the air really well. Long strides with the ability to find a gap, breaks the lines and uses left foot extremely well.” – Dandenong Stingrays talent manager Mark Wheeler.

40. Zac FISHER
DOB: 15/6/98 | Ht: 175.2cm | Wt: 70.3 | Perth | Small Midfielder.

Draft range: 35-45.

What they say: “Over summer we decided to put him straight into senior training and he played from Round 2 and was just amazing. Finds the ball inside but can grab it on the outside and at AFL level he’ll probably play forward but eventually will move into the midfield.” – Perth football operations manager Tyson Beattie.

41. Elliot HIMMELBERG
Ht: 196.1cm | Wt: 89.2kg | Key Defender/Forward | Redland

Draft range: 25-45.

What they say: “Elliot is a good kick for goal and has real aggression when he crunches and spoils the packs. He can play at both ends and if he keeps on growing, he might be able to pinch hit in the ruck. We have really high hopes for him and might go somewhere from the mid-20s.” – Queensland high performance coach Adrian Fletcher.

42. Dylan CLARKE
Ht: 185.7cm | Wt: 83.4kg | Inside Midfielder | Eastern Ranges

Draft range: 25-45.

What they say: “Just a competitive, inside animal with a beautiful feel for the game around stoppages, and ability to win his own footy inside. Can play different roles as well, he’s done some really good stoppage and stopping roles. I guess the knock on him might be his kicking.” – Eastern Ranges talent manager Len Villani.

43. Callum BROWN
Ht: 177.0cm | Wt: 72.2kg | Inside Midfielder | Eastern Ranges

Draft range: 30-45.

What they say: “He’s as clean below his knees as I’ve seen – he’s very much Caleb Daniel like as well in terms of doesn’t waste his possessions. His probably a 15 to 30m player in terms of his kicking at this stage, but as he continues to develop that power in his legs, he’ll get better in that regard.” – Eastern Ranges talent manager Len Villani.

44. Kym LEBOIS
Ht: 172.5cm | Wt: 67.5kg | Small Forward | North Adelaide

Draft range: 30-50.

What they say: “A left-footer with good goal sense he’s also got a good work-rate both ways. Plays as a small forward and can find the goals.” – North Adelaide football development manager Neil Sanders.

45. Jack MAIBAUM
Ht: 191.9cm | Wt: 91.0kg | Key Defender | Eastern Ranges

Draft range: 25-50.

What they say: “He’s done some massive jobs this year and last year as well. His coming of age was against Murray last year – Josh Schache was killing Kane Keppel first half, we put Jack on him and he didn’t get another touch. He is just a big, competitive brute.” – Eastern Ranges talent manager Len Villani.

46. Myles POHOLKE
Ht: 183.7cm | Wt: 81.9kg | Medium Forward | Dandenong Stingrays

Draft range: 35-50.

What they say: “Within six months of being added to Stingrays program he was given an AFL Academy spot and has become a true professional in his preparation and on-field goal setting. Should play in 2017 if taken plus has the nous and ready-made body to handle to heat.” – Dandenong Stingrays talent manager Mark Wheeler.

47. Corey LYONS
Ht: 180.5cm | Wt: 77.1kg | Hybrid Midfielder | Sandringham Dragons

Draft range: 40-60.

What they say: “A true footballer in every sense of the word. He really understands the game and can break it down and talk about the tactics and the structure of it. He’s not quick but if you are footy smart like he is, you get there a bit quicker.” – Sandringham Dragons talent manager Ryan O’Connor.

48. Kayle KIRBY
Ht: 181.1cm | Wt: 96.0kg | Medium Forward | Bendigo Pioneers

Draft range: 40+.

What they say: “Kayle is an excitement machine. He’s got some real x-factor, deadly accurate around goals, dangerous whenever he gets the ball and he’s physically intimidating. He’s only been playing football for three or four years so the upside is enormous.” – Bendigo Pioneers coach Brett Henderson.

49. Josh DAICOS
Ht: 177.8cm | Wt: 72.2kg | Small Forward | Oakleigh Chargers

Draft range: 35-60.

What they say: “He peaked around the championships and we were probably a little disappointed with the end of his season. There are a lot of similarities with his dad – great goal sense and footy brain with the way he sees the game.” – Oakleigh Chargers talent manager Craig Notman.


50. Isaac CUMMING
Ht: 184.2cm | Wt: 73.8kg | Medium Defender | North Adelaide/GWS Academy

Draft range: 30-50.

What they say: “Isaac is a lad from Broken Hill who played a couple of games for us. He is a real smooth mover, good kick and plays wing/half forward or half back. His kicking is what sets him apart and he’s a very smart footballer.” – North Adelaide football development manager Neil Sanders.
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You would think if GC don't take Brodie with 4 (and opt for say Taranto or even Scrimshaw), that Carlton will take him, and vice versa. I can't see GC taking SPS given the less than subtle messages he is sending about playing for a big Melbourne club.
 

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Took a look through the highlights on Brett Andersons 26-50 board and the player who stood out to me who I hadn't considered for our picks 21-22... DREW .... Very impressive, Kid from Koroit can play ... Has to come into calculations, moves very well, natural footballer.
 
SizeMatters said:
I have huge question marks over Ainsworth and TBH I think it's a reach to select him at 3.biggest problem for mine is that he hasn't really been that productive and while he plays some great footy for a quarter he goes missing too easily. I'd take Taranto, Brodie, and maybe SPS ahead of him as they have a more consistent game. I'm honestly at a loss as to why Ainsworth is rated so highly on this board when IMO I have him around the 6-8 mark and a few people I've spoken to with links also have him around that ball park although others do rate him as the 2nd best prospect. I suppose it's a great thing to have so many rated equally at the pointy of the draft... Everyone's a winner. Going to be an exciting draft that's for sure and our recruiters will know what they rate as the best player available.
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Yep, I would take Taranto ahead of Ainsworth and Brodie. Has great potential as a goal kicking midfielder and just got better and better as the year wore on. His skill level is up with McCluggage. I get it that Ainsworth wants to join the Lions and that the club apparently rates him and that we want a small forward, but for me the first pick should be about best available and for me that's McCluggage, McGrath or Taranto.
 
Taranto looking a lock for pick 4 to Gold Coast now, leaving Carlton the choice between Brodie and SPS. I'd take Brodie if I was Carlton.
 
WhiteLionFeva said:
Yep, I would take Taranto ahead of Ainsworth and Brodie. Has great potential as a goal kicking midfielder and just got better and better as the year wore on. His skill level is up with McCluggage. I get it that Ainsworth wants to join the Lions and that the club apparently rates him and that we want a small forward, but for me the first pick should be about best available and for me that's McCluggage, McGrath or Taranto.
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Ainsworth has a couple more tricks than Taranto, so I would still take Ainsworth. Make no mistake, Ainsworth will be midfielder over time, he'll be going through midfield at some stage next year at Brissy and we'll be very happy with his link play , high level of skill and his explosive speed. We don't have a player like him. Taranto will be a good player too and has done a great job improving his game throughout the year. Wish we had of got that priority pick where it needed to be and we could be looking at taking both of them.
 
WhiteLionFeva said:
You would think if GC don't take Brodie with 4 (and opt for say Taranto or even Scrimshaw), that Carlton will take him, and vice versa. I can't see GC taking SPS given the less than subtle messages he is sending about playing for a big Melbourne club.
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I think if we don't bid on Bowes than Taranto is favourite for pick 4 from what I've heard. It was Wines apparently but word is he could slip to Suns last pick with Blues keen on SPS but could also go Wines or bid on Setterfield.
 
SizeMatters said:
I think if we don't bid on Bowes than Taranto is favourite for pick 4 from what I've heard. It was Wines apparently but word is he could slip to Suns last pick with Blues keen on SPS but could also go Wines or bid on Setterfield.
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Wines? Did you mean Bowes?
 

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Lions Lions said:
Took a look through the highlights on Brett Andersons 26-50 board and the player who stood out to me who I hadn't considered for our picks 21-22... DREW .... Very impressive, Kid from Koroit can play ... Has to come into calculations, moves very well, natural footballer.
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Old Lions zone,Leon Harris will be right across that one I suspect.
 
Lions Lions said:
Ainsworth has a couple more tricks than Taranto, so I would still take Ainsworth. Make no mistake, Ainsworth will be midfielder over time, he'll be going through midfield at some stage next year at Brissy and we'll be very happy with his link play , high level of skill and his explosive speed. We don't have a player like him. Taranto will be a good player too and has done a great job improving his game throughout the year. Wish we had of got that priority pick where it needed to be and we could be looking at taking both of them.
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For sure,more line breaking ability , more variety , more matchwinning traits .
 
Cockliff38 said:
Interesting CD rate Allison at 30
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Sorry not being pedantic, but want to make the distinction.

CD doesn't "rate" Allison. It's just a statistical ranking. There would be many factors that aren't measured, that would influence where recruiters have players rated on their own big boards.
 
Panthera said:
According to Brett Anderson, whispers are that we won't be taking any WA kids; ruling out a few we all may have potentially thought were possible @ 16, 21, 22.
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Wonder if that includes Cedric Cox who has been living and playing in Western Victoria and was happy to leave home at Halls Creek (SPS's hometown) to make a career and life for himself.
 
Panthera said:
According to Brett Anderson, whispers are that we won't be taking any WA kids; ruling out a few we all may have potentially thought were possible @ 16, 21, 22.
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As WLF said I wonder if that includes Cedric Cox. We could benefit from adding a prospect like him who will need time to develop but has that mix of class and speed that we could use off the half back flank. Not surprised overall though. Don't think English would be on our radar. Guys like Fisher and Baker are more in the 30-60 range. SPS not in the mix with pick 3. SPP and Bolton I'd have thought would have been in the mix at picks 21/22 but SPP perhaps off to the Eagles with pick 12 plus we may be prioritising things like foot skills this draft. From all reports Bolton is potentially a flight risk. One guy I thought we might be keen on, however, was Rotham. I forgot about Logue as well but highly likely he goes in the 7-12 range ruling him out anyway.
 

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