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Big H has been a very good recruiter for us, but he's not perfect.
I think Gallucci probably has late 1st round AFL talent but I'm just not sure he wants it bad enough and from what Godden said a lot of it seems to be between the ears with his lack of mental strength to push himself to the limit when he's gassed. Can't say I've ever seen Jordan sucking in the big ones like Rory Sloane after some of his gut busting running and repeat efforts.Big H has been a very good recruiter for us, but he's not perfect.
He was recruited as an athlete not as a footballer.I think Gallucci probably has late 1st round AFL talent but I'm just not sure he wants it bad enough and from what Godden said a lot of it seems to be between the ears with his lack of mental strength to push himself to the limit when he's gassed. Can't say I've ever seen Jordan sucking in the big ones like Rory Sloane after some of his gut busting running and repeat efforts.
Don’t buy that - still plenty of talent in that draft at our pick 15.
Hayward been good
Berry been good
Witherden been good
Parfitt been good
Lepinski been good
Fisher been good
SPP been good
It’s just looking like a mistake so let’s call it what it was.
Think you're seriously underrating where Patrick Lipinski is heading career wise....in most teams he'd be a starting midfielder right off the bat but with the likes of Bontompelli, Macrae, Wallis, Dunkley and young gun Bailey Smith etc he's been utilised forward a lot. He's a gun and will only get better with more midfield exposure.Let's be honest, outside of those first three, no one would have been happy using pick 15 on them.
Parfitt is bog average, Lipinski and Fisher are classic second round talents and Powell-Pepper is rubbish. Even Hayward is only just going right now.
Well that’s easy to say. But the fact is all those guys are playing league footy.Let's be honest, outside of those first three, no one would have been happy using pick 15 on them.
Parfitt is bog average, Lipinski and Fisher are classic second round talents and Powell-Pepper is rubbish. Even Hayward is only just going right now.
He has excellent skills though. I don't mind drafting athletic guys if they can actually kick. All of Gallucci's issues are psychological. He doesn't find the ball enough, doesn't provide enough run, doesn't provide enough defensively. All of his problems revolve around a lack of intent. I don't think Hamish misread the amount of talent but his desire to succeed.He was recruited as an athlete not as a footballer.
I had him 18-22 range shocked me when we took him tbh.
BookmarkedWhatever your biases, there's little doubt we've turned into a very ordinary team in the last 2 years. Much of it can be blamed on coaching/player management but our 2016 draftees should be coming along this year or next, and that's just not happening
These are our draft pick ups from 2016
Main draft
Gallucci - on the outer
Poholke - being kind he's a solid player
Himmelburg - a tease now and then
Signorello - who?
Davis - 1 or 2 glimpses at best
Rookies
Shaw - retained for medical reasons
pass
Jarman - sentimental choice only
Losses
Lyons
Henderson
If any of the drafted players had been delisted this year it would have come at no surprise apart from Gallucci, and only because of his 1st round status not form
Compare this to our notable pickups from draft/trades in our our dark 2012/13 Tippett sanction years
Atkins, Hartigan, Callinan, Betts, Podsiadly, M Crouch, Knight, Laird (elevation), Cameron, Kelly, Graham (notable for its sh!tness). Maybe add Jenkins in 2011 if they knew Tippett was leaving the following year.
2016 is not one of Hamish's better years. I know he wanted English and Pyke asked for a fast mid rather than a ruck (not an unreasonable request) but Hamish picked the wrong guy. would English have been a much better choice than O'Brien anyway?
ED: I forgot Signorello (easily done) Have added him now
For what? Which of these draft picks are you backing to be quality players?Bookmarked
I think Gallucci probably has late 1st round AFL talent but I'm just not sure he wants it bad enough and from what Godden said a lot of it seems to be between the ears with his lack of mental strength to push himself to the limit when he's gassed. Can't say I've ever seen Jordan sucking in the big ones like Rory Sloane after some of his gut busting running and repeat efforts.
Let's be honest, outside of those first three, no one would have been happy using pick 15 on them.
Parfitt is bog average, Lipinski and Fisher are classic second round talents and Powell-Pepper is rubbish. Even Hayward is only just going right now.
Well he certainly hasn’t clicked this preseason under a new coach. He was left out of a practise game with a heap of candidates preferred to him.I'm pretty confident Gooch makes it. Big candidate for someone who just clicks with a coaching change.
Poholke is a backup inside midfielder and Himmelberg/Davis are already passess by virtue of getting an AFL game.
Not a horrendous year. Not a good one though.
I agree that he's a candidate because a coach who could actually manufacture some desire out of Gallucci could turn him into a decent player. I don't think this is going to happen at Adelaide though. I think our new coach likes him even less than the last one.I'm pretty confident Gooch makes it. Big candidate for someone who just clicks with a coaching change.
Poholke is a backup inside midfielder and Himmelberg/Davis are already passess by virtue of getting an AFL game.
Not a horrendous year. Not a good one though.
He's not a natural footballer mate trust me on this.He has excellent skills though. I don't mind drafting athletic guys if they can actually kick. All of Gallucci's issues are psychological. He doesn't find the ball enough, doesn't provide enough run, doesn't provide enough defensively. All of his problems revolve around a lack of intent. I don't think Hamish misread the amount of talent but his desire to succeed.
Wow. So who's this guy we drafted and what has he done with the real Jordan Gallucci?w Gallucci play some pretty dominant games for the Eastern Ranges and Vic Metro but alas we've never seen that from him in either the AFL or SANFL.
Twomey's Draft bio doesn't sound or look like the player we drafted.
Tomorrow's Heroes: Jordan Gallucci leaps into contention
Tomorrow's heroes: Jordan Gallucci's combine jump hits the heightswww.afl.com.au
However, Gallucci – a former volleyball star – is not just renowned for his athleticism. He has an insatiable work ethic, good character and leadership skills that make him an attractive option for recruiters.
While there's one standout feature, the dashing youngster's well-rounded game makes him a top-20 draft prospect.
Gallucci is a busy player who excels when breaking the lines. He ranked second in the mid-forward category of players for metres gained at the championships for Vic Metro, highlighting his ability to take the game on.
He co-captained Vic Metro to the Under-18 title and then just a week later inspired the Ranges to a resounding TAC Cup win over the Western Jets with 21 disposals and five goals.
He has the versatility to play multiple positions and the attitude to get the very best out of himself.
Gallucci is not the most polished of kicks and can make a few errors by foot.
With the need to spot up short targets a high priority at AFL level, Gallucci will need to work to improve in this area.
Gallucci has some genuine power and speed in his game and runs and carries the footy in a similar fashion to Western Bulldogs backman Jason Johannisen.
The 18-year-old also loves to tuck the footy under his arm, break clear from a stoppage and pump the footy inside 50 like Essendon's David Zaharakis.
Could sneak in as a top-15 choice, but more likely to be a late first-round or early second-round pick.
Gallucci can play in multiple positions and often provides his team with spark. He loves to dart away from traffic and set his team up to surge the footy in the right direction. He is professional in his application to the game and will thrive in an environment where he will learn more about his own game everyday.
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Getting a run as a midfielder in a team intending to be a contender was always going to be unlikely. It’s not as though he was bashing the door down.Looks to be playing largely a midfield role.
I wonder if his complete lack of time/experience/development in that role since joining an AFL team has anything to do with it
Not sure if you’re serious:On the 2016 draft haul, fair enough that 20+ picks rarely turn out.
But they do sometimes turn out. Or at least they do for teams like Richmond and West Coast, and they did for us in the Rendell era.
Hamish in his time has almost zero (zero?) hits from picks 30+. He has had a lot of chances over the years. Many other recruiters in the same boat, but there’s no doubt he is not on Rendell’s class.
Callinan, Kelly, Greenwood, Keath, Murphy, Sholl, Butts.Not sure if you’re serious:
Gov
Cameron
Hartigan
Atkins
ROB
Are some that I can just think of