List Mgmt. 2016 Draft Prospects(Poll Added)

[Dav1d]

It must be disappointing for Calder to have no players in either academy level

 

[Wizard17]

Oakleigh Chargers season preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41862010



Northern Knights preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41862006




North Ballarat Rebels Preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41861997




Murray Bushrangers season preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41861992



Gippsland Power preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41625580



Geelong Falcons season preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41625565



Dandenong Stingrays season preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41625505




Bendigo Pioneers preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...339771-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41388741



Calder Cannons preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41625459



Eastern Ranges preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41625514

Updated with Oakleigh Chargers preview.

So Sam McLarty is going to spend more time forward? That is going to be interesting to watch.

 

[Wizard17]

It must be disappointing for Calder to have no players in either academy level

They look like they are in for a pretty tough year.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Updated with Oakleigh Chargers preview.

So Sam McLarty is going to spend more time forward? That is going to be interesting to watch.

Another athletic key forward to watch?

 

[Wizard17]

WESTERN BULLDOGS LIST BREAKDOWN

I've decided to do a full list breakdown before round 1 of the round one and later when we do our delistings at the end of the year.

First I've broken down the list into catergories so that we can see the weakest areas on our current list of players, some players will appear multiple times due to them being dual roled.

# - Means a player over 30 at the end of the year
* - Means a Rookie

Forward Line

Goal Kicking Smalls (1) - Tory Dickson

Goal kicking Medium Forwards (2) - Jake Stringer, Stewert Crameri

Resting Players (21) - Joshua Dunkley, Mitch Wallis, Marcus Bontempelli, Luke Dahlhaus, Caleb Daniel, Toby McLean, Bailey Dale, Declan Hamilton, Lachie Hunter, Nathan Hrovat, Mitch Honeychurch, Matthew Suckling, Jed Adcock#*, Lukas Webb, Liam Picken#, Lin Jong, Koby Stevens, Tom Campbell, Luke Goetz*, Jordan Roughead, Will Minson#

Tall Forwards (2) - Tom Boyd, Jack Redpath

*Goal kicking implies they are capable of kicking 40+ goals a year*

Midfield

Ruckman (4) - Will Minson#, Jordan Roughead, Tom Campbell, Luke Goetz*

Small Mids (8) - Luke Dahlhaus, Caleb Daniel, Toby McLean, Bailey Dale, Declan Hamilton, Lachie Hunter, Nathan Hrovat, Mitch Honeychurch

Med Mids (11) - Mitch Wallis, Matthew Suckling, Matthew Boyd#, Clay Smith, Lukas Webb, Tom Liberatore, Shane Biggs, Joshua Prudden, Bailey Williams, Liam Picken#, Lin Jong

Tall Mids (4) - Marcus Bontempelli, Jackson Macrae, Joshua Dunkley, Koby Stevens

Defense

Small Def (3) - Jason Johannisen, Bradley Lynch*, Roarke Smith*

Med Def (12) - Shane Biggs, Easton Wood, Matthew Suckling, Lukas Webb, Bailey Williams, Joshua Prudden, Jed Adcock#*, Liam Picken#, Robert Murphy#, Dale Morris#, Matthew Boyd#

Tall Def (6) - Fletcher Roberts, Zaine Cordy, Joel Hamling, Jordan Roughead, Kieran Collins, Marcus Adams

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After looking through this I can see a few obvious weaknesses on our list. These being Goal Kicking Players and good small defenders in the Johannisen mold (hence why we struggle when he isn't playing). These weaknesses are backed up by our aging defense and our bad ruck stocks which could be made worse if Minson retires at the end of this year.

Our strengths is in our ability to play many midfielders as either forwards or defenders, our small half forwards and our midfield stocks. We have also done well in our KPD stocks over the last two years.

We should try and trade and draft for the weaknesses above this year. Focus on goal kicking types, medium and small defenders (with dual position scope if possible) and ruckman.

 

[Wizard17]

Another athletic key forward to watch?

Played mostly as a lockdown KPD last year but the Chargers are going to give him some time up forward. Interesting to see if he can becone a swingman of sorts.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

WESTERN BULLDOGS LIST BREAKDOWN

I've decided to do a full list breakdown before round 1 of the round one and later when we do our delistings at the end of the year.

First I've broken down the list into catergories so that we can see the weakest areas on our current list of players, some players will appear multiple times due to them being dual roled.

# - Means a player over 30
* - Means a Rookie

Forward Line

Goal Kicking Smalls (1) - Tory Dickson

Goal kicking Medium Forwards (2) - Jake Stringer, Stewert Crameri

Resting Players (21) - Joshua Dunkley, Mitch Wallis, Marcus Bontempelli, Luke Dahlhaus, Caleb Daniel, Toby McLean, Bailey Dale, Declan Hamilton, Lachie Hunter, Nathan Hrovat, Mitch Honeychurch, Matthew Suckling, Jed Adcock#*, Lukas Webb, Liam Picken, Lin Jong, Koby Stevens, Tom Campbell, Luke Goetz*, Jordan Roughead, Will Minson#

Tall Forwards (2) - Tom Boyd, Jack Redpath

*Goal kicking implies they are capable of kicking 40+ goals a year*

Midfield

Ruckman (4) - Will Minson#, Jordan Roughead, Tom Campbell, Luke Goetz*

Small Mids (8) - Luke Dahlhaus, Caleb Daniel, Toby McLean, Bailey Dale, Declan Hamilton, Lachie Hunter, Nathan Hrovat, Mitch Honeychurch

Med Mids (11) - Mitch Wallis, Matthew Suckling, Matthew Boyd#, Clay Smith, Lukas Webb, Tom Liberatore, Shane Biggs, Joshua Prudden, Bailey Williams, Liam Picken, Lin Jong

Tall Mids (4) - Marcus Bontempelli, Jackson Macrae, Joshua Dunkley, Koby Stevens

Defense

Small Def (3) - Jason Johannisen, Bradley Lynch*, Roarke Smith*

Med Def (13) - Shane Biggs, Easton Wood, Matthew Suckling, Lukas Webb, Bailey Williams, Joshua Prudden, Jed Adcock#*, Liam Picken, Robert Murphy#, Dale Morris#, Matthew Boyd#, Koby Stevens

Tall Def (6) - Fletcher Roberts, Zaine Cordy, Joel Hamling, Jordan Roughead, Kieran Collins, Marcus Adams

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After looking through this I can see a few obvious weaknesses on our list. These being Goal Kicking Players and good small defenders in the Johannisen mold (hence why we struggle when he isn't playing). These weaknesses are backed up by our aging defense and our bad ruck stocks which could be made worse if Minson retires at the end of this year.

Our strengths is in our ability to play many midfielders as either forwards or defenders, our small half forwards and our midfield stocks. We have also done well in our KPD stocks over the last two years.

We should try and trade and draft for the weaknesses above this year. Focus on goal kicking types, medium and small defenders (with dual position scope if possible) and ruckman.

Looks like this will be a good draft for goal kickers and rucks, we might be in luck. Would love to get two picks in the first round and use one on Goddard/Strnadica/Ladhams and the other on Battle/Carter/Korewha, or at least whichever players of these types Dalrymple rates.

Side note, there's been talk of player growth already, Ainsworth from 177 to 180, SPS from 180 to 182/3. Where's the best place to get updates on this?

 

[Wizard17]

Looks like this will be a good draft for goal kickers and rucks, we might be in luck. Would love to get two picks in the first round and use one on Goddard/Strnadica/Ladhams and the other on Battle/Carter/Korewha, or at least whichever players of these types Dalrymple rates.

Side note, there's been talk of player growth already, Ainsworth from 177 to 180, SPS from 180 to 182/3. Where's the best place to get updates on this?

We should try to stack up in this draft. We need to find a couple of goal kickers (one small/mid sized one and a CHF), A ruck who can play up forward to some degree would need to be in discussion , for that reason I'm leaning towards Goddard/Strnadica for now.

Not sure, I usually wait for the National Champs (or R1 TAC record for TAC Cup players) or read recent news articles.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

We should try to stack up in this draft. We need to find a couple of goal kickers (one small/mid sized one and a CHF), A ruck who can play up forward to some degree would need to be in discussion , for that reason I'm leaning towards Goddard/Strnadica for now.

Not sure, I usually wait for the National Champs (or R1 TAC record for TAC Cup players) or read recent news articles.

National Champs aren't until June, I can't wait that long.

I have a feeling this is going to be an exciting and important draft for us.

 

[Dav1d]

You need to cycle 3 new players onto the senior list each year, correct?

If that is the case, we could see some trades with/without picks to move up the order & continue to cycle the best talent available to us

 

[CaptainMurphy]

You need to cycle 3 new players onto the senior list each year, correct?

If that is the case, we could see some trades with/without picks to move up the order & continue to cycle the best talent available to us

This is what I'm banking on. Hrovat/Minson/Honeychurch/whoever (depending on how this season goes) swapped for picks, picks packaged up for higher picks with academy clubs, three picks in the first two rounds (maybe two in the first), what a dream, premiership in 2017, life is good.

 

[LittleG]

Newly picked players are mostly unlikely to be good enough to contribute much in their first year. Particularly when you look at the depth on our list. These new players can contribute more in 2-3 years time. It would be great to have multiple first round picks in this upcoming draft to develop for a year before contributing in 2018 & beyond.
We do have a lot of good players who could be looking at other options this year. Good luck to any player who isn't best 22 and wants to be best 22 elsewhere.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Newly picked players are mostly unlikely to be good enough to contribute much in their first year. Particularly when you look at the depth on our list. These new players can contribute more in 2-3 years time. It would be great to have multiple first round picks in this upcoming draft to develop for a year before contributing in 2018 & beyond.
We do have a lot of good players who could be looking at other options this year. Good luck to any player who isn't best 22 and wants to be best 22 elsewhere.

Yeah I wasn't really serious about this year's crop helping us win the 2017 flag. Still think we've got a chance to win it though, as an aside.

 

[Dav1d]

Opposition teams can also get stuffed if we did trade up & thought that their back up rucks are worth a first, especially the older blokes

I believe Zac Clarke is on a one year deal this year, getting him & Goddard at the draft would give us a good amount of ruck options should Minson retire this season

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Opposition teams can also get stuffed if we did trade up & thought that their back up rucks are worth a first, especially the older blokes

I believe Zac Clarke is on a one year deal this year, getting him & Goddard at the draft would give us a good amount of ruck options should Minson retire this season

Surely if we took Goddard then him, Roughead, Campbell and Goetz is enough current and future ruck options, especially since I'd love another first round pick to be used on a goal kicking athletic type (instead of being traded for a mature ruck). I guess it depends on the development of Roughead/Campbell and how far away Goddard would be from playing.

 

[Dav1d]

Well some think he is ready to go
I'm not too sure about that (Goddard)
But I meant that Clarke would be for a second + likely something else

3 senior rucks + Goetz may be enough rucks though
A tall & a classy midfielder would be very nice additions and I know, I know
I like to dream big

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Well some think he is ready to go
I'm not too sure about that (Goddard)
But I meant that Clarke would be for a second + likely something else

3 senior rucks + Goetz may be enough rucks though
A tall & a classy midfielder would be very nice additions and I know, I know
I like to dream big

This draft seems full of top-end rucks and athletic tall(ish) forwards, really hoping we jump on a couple of those. But we'll see how this year goes, we might have very different needs by the end.

 

[Wizard17]

So possible 1st/2nd round tall (190+) forwards.

Patrick Kerr (Oakleigh)

Joshua Battle (Dandenong)

Zac Sproule (Murray/GWS Academy)

Luke Strnadica (Western Australia)

Mitchell Carter (Norwood)

And now the rucks from this year (All Rounds)

Jeremy Goddard (Western Australia)

Lloyd Meek (North Ballarat Rebels)

Peter Ladhams (Norwood)

Jordan Sweet (North Adelaide)

Tony Olango (Northern Territory)

Tim Sullivan (Norwood)(19yo)

 

[Wizard17]

There might be more but that is just off the top of my head at this early stage.

Could easily have Ezekiel Frank in that first group too.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

There might be more but that is just off the top of my head at this early stage.

Could easily have Ezekiel Frank in that first group too.

I've been told to look out for if Jack Scrimshaw spends some time forward in the TAC cup this year. Forgot which club he plays for though.

 

[Wizard17]

Western Jets Preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41862016




Oakleigh Chargers season preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41862010



Northern Knights preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41862006




North Ballarat Rebels Preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41861997




Murray Bushrangers season preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41861992



Gippsland Power preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41625580



Geelong Falcons season preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41625565



Dandenong Stingrays season preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41625505




Bendigo Pioneers preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...339771-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41388741



Calder Cannons preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41625459



Eastern Ranges preview:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41625514

Western Jets Preview now up.

Is it just me or has a lot of sides mentioned talls in their previews?

 

[Dav1d]

Western Jets Preview now up.

Is it just me or has a lot of sides mentioned talls in their previews?

I don't necessarily think this means its a years to get gun talls, just that there is a lot available

 

[Wizard17]

Western Jets Preview:


http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41862016





Oakleigh Chargers season preview:


http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41862010




Northern Knights preview:


http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41862006





North Ballarat Rebels Preview:


http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41861997





Murray Bushrangers season preview:


http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41861992




Gippsland Power preview:


http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41625580




Geelong Falcons season preview:


http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41625565




Dandenong Stingrays season preview:


http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41625505





Bendigo Pioneers preview:


http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...339771-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41388741




Calder Cannons preview:


http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41625459




Eastern Ranges preview:


http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41625514

Sandringham Dragons Preview:


http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...20-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=41862013

Coach: Jeremy Barnard (second year)


Talent Manager: Ryan O’Connor


2015 finish: 9th


2015 AFL draftees: Harley Balic (pick no.38, Fremantle)


2016 AFL Academy members: Level Two – Jack Scrimshaw, Will Setterfield


Last premiership: 2011


The Dragons missed last year’s finals on percentage behind the eighth-placed Calder Cannons. They showed they could mix it with the best though, knocking off eventual grand finalists the Oakleigh Chargers by 19 points in Round 4 and the Eastern Ranges by five points in Round 18.


Talent Manager Ryan O’Connor predicted a rise up the ladder in 2016 though, with a group hungry for success after a difficult 2015 season. “The best thing for us is – after what we would term an uncompetitive year – we look to have a really deep and stronger list,” O’Connor said. “It was pretty lean last year and I think that’s whetted the group’s appetite.”


The club boasts a handful of players in draft contention this year, led by tall midfield prospects Jack Scrimshaw and Will Setterfield. Scrimshaw is currently trying to overcome a hot spot in his foot, but Setterfield is healthy again after an injury-interrupted bottom-age season and, according to O’Connor, is “improving every time we see him at training”.


O’Connor also said versatile midfielders Andrew McGrath and Tim Taranto were “tracking equally as well as Jack and Will”, while smaller midfielders Cameron Polson and Corey Lyons – brother of Adelaide AFL player Jarryd – provided something different to Sandringham’s on-ball mix. Club captain Hamish Brayshaw – brother of Melbourne young gun Angus – will add further grunt in the clinches and O’Connor likened Oliver Florent to smooth-moving GWS midfielder Josh Kelly if he could improve his consistency of performance.


Goy Lok is the biggest name back at the club as an over-age player. “He was in draft contention last year but I think clubs wanted him to expand his game,” O’Connor said of Lok. “They saw he was probably a bit too inside and he needed to get outside and run and carry a bit.” Tom Cameron, Darcy James and Hugh Johnson join Lok at the club as 19-year-olds for 2016.


The Dragons open their season on Saturday March 26 against the Northern Knights at Ikon Park.

Have to make a new post for Sandy.

 

[VitalDread]

Mitch Cox and Aloysio Ferreira from Casey are two players to keep a eye on.
Both are a mix of inside/outside and are bulls at the ball.
Coxy just knows how to get through traffic and is a great kick, had some injuries last year and looks to push for Senior VFL selection this year.
Aloysio had injury 2015 season for Gippy as a inside bull midfielder with great timing and kicking, needs to improve his endurance but so far in the pre-season has been racking up the touches at high %

 

[Wizard17]

Sorry about these not being edited properly.

Shows who has grown since last year.

-more to come-