Hot Topic 2016 DRAFT

[Arr0w]

then I withdraw my faux-apology unconditionally and reinstate NANE!!

 

[Arr0w]

No need to jump on a bloke because he used the word 'guarantee' I'd rather peopel get jumped on for sprouting other peoples views who were sprouting other people's views about other people's views - with aan adjectivfal change here or there as a nod to originality.

pendants are boring.

and besides if we pick Brodie and he turns out to be a gun - Arrow can suck it up for eva.

 

[Arr0w]

We took exception to your use of the word 'guarantee' and lack of explanation. Anyway, as you said, let's leave it at that.

Cheers

 

[thylacine60]

Yearly PSA: Knightmare, despite being a long-standing BF stalwart, is no older than 25 and comes off as a mad Pies supporter with how he picks for us in his phantoms. Probably a long-running inside joke.




What the **** am I even reading here guys, all this needs is a few hashtags and a link to a medium post. Get to work on your Twitter bios!

McCluggage is a star, with his light frame being the only question mid-year, and you only had to take one look at him in the All-Star game and at draft camp to know that he's hit the gym and takes it all very seriously. He's amazing in contested situations without being a pure bull, but his touch is so clean and his hands/kicking so quick it makes zero difference.


How very modern of you three




Was going to say, how do you know he's not an underwriter?

jimster - ease up on the exploded quotes - we're not putting a thai outdoor setting together ffs!!

 

[HARKER]

Have you watched Brodie play?

We will not select Brodie and Duman with our first 2 picks

Are you taking Knightmare's draft as gospel? Settefield at 15 and Perryman at 37, because they are the next 2 picks GWS have after pick 2 ?

Yes I have. Not a lot admittedly but I have watched him live as well as what is accessible to any if us.
Knightmare and me aren't exactly the best of commrades, but I do respect his efforts other than when it comes to discussing Collingwood.

We're all here to discuss our opinions and possibilities and I am interested in what you have to say, but you did use the word 'guarantee' for which you shouldn't be surprised when others pull you up on it.

I feel that you can only really use that term, under the following conditions:

1. You're part of the recruiting team.
2. You're a board member that has given out a directive.
3. Someone has leaked you info about Brodie that has him as one to avoid at all cost.
4. You are SOS.

Back to me and as I have put forward, I'm still 50/50 on Brodie/Taranto........but that's only an opinion and not a fact to what will come about.
Taking McCluggage, McGrath, Ainsworth and Bowes out of the equation, I feel that Setterfield may be the player we'd like most and then the two aforementioned.

So as a matter of interest; Who should we take at #5.............without having to guarantee it.

 

[Jimmae]

jimster - ease up

Never

 

[thylacine60]

if it continues I will put it to chief to remove you quote exploding rights.......

 

[PumpyChowdown]

I have sacrificed a chook and spread its gizzards across my kitchen floor to read the future.

I see us selecting Taranto at 5 ahead of Brodie. SOS is concerned about Brodie's blazing away from stoppages and wants cleaner entries and goal scoring options.

If Powell-Pepper is available at 25 then Mr. Silvagni will be reading his name out. Hard bodied, hard running contested beast, ready to go. If he is unavailable, then welcome to Carlton Zac Fisher.

 

[JustaBattler]

not always boring

Sure its not a plumbob?

 

[BluesRule]

Knightmare rates scrimshaw at pick 5 and taranto at 10. Hope we get kerr. Blokes that are passionate about the team usually tend to make it.

Knightmare thinks GWS match bid for Sproule, but I am not sure GWS have the points to do this (unless they go into deficit for next year).
Which means we can get Kerr. Or Fisher, etc.

 

[bmaurizio]

Key thing to consider before we nail anything down.

1. There at least 3 players who will likely see the Academy bidding process (Bowes at 3 from Brisbane, Setterfield and Perryman from GWS) It is possible that Essendon makes a bid for one of those with Pick 1 which would eliminate either picks 2 or 4 if matched. It also could happen twice (Essendon bid on Setterfield, Brisbane bids on Bowes) if that happens it really throws more options at us than we likely would have considered as we might get someone we thought was gone.[/QUOTE

Yes agree this is a strong probability and will add an exciting dimension to our selection.
The sepulactive top five 2016 choices are all good prospects but to me Brodie is more your nuts and bolts type specialist midfielder.
Will have impact early , but with the specter of a Fyfe ? or options of a Bunker or Dew at pick 25 can we be more creative at pick 5?
Scrimshaw or SPS can deliver and destribute the ball very well under pressure and that's what we need. On ballers that create opportunity.
Finesse, talent and creativity with good work rate under pressure are the prerequisites for our pick 5 , he must have these attributes. Otherwise he ain't any good to us.
Go Baggers

 

[Arr0w]

Yes I have. Not a lot admittedly but I have watched him live as well as what is accessible to any if us.
Knightmare and me aren't exactly the best of commrades, but I do respect his efforts other than when it comes to discussing Collingwood.

We're all here to discuss our opinions and possibilities and I am interested in what you have to say, but you did use the word 'guarantee' for which you shouldn't be surprised when others pull you up on it.

I feel that you can only really use that term, under the following conditions:

1. You're part of the recruiting team.
2. You're a board member that has given out a directive.
3. Someone has leaked you info about Brodie that has him as one to avoid at all cost.
4. You are SOS.

Back to me and as I have put forward, I'm still 50/50 on Brodie/Taranto........but that's only an opinion and not a fact to what will come about.
Taking McCluggage, McGrath, Ainsworth and Bowes out of the equation, I feel that Setterfield may be the player we'd like most and then the two aforementioned.

So as a matter of interest; Who should we take at #5.............without having to guarantee it.

If people object to the word "guarantee" unless it is part of the 4 mentioned conditions and they share the same view as you, I understand.

Have stated many times, its not so much who I would take, more on who I wouldn't, happy to leave it at that

 

[ferrisb]

Close to 80 live picks expected at draft



Reckon we could easily do six.

Maybe we should have kept pick 135 after all....

 

[TheCoach16]

I have sacrificed a chook and spread its gizzards across my kitchen floor to read the future.

Ummm, sorry, are you gonna eat that?
Coz if not, I'll have it....

 

[PumpyChowdown]

Ummm, sorry, are you gonna eat that?
Coz if not, I'll have it....

Sorry Coach, already in the pot.

 

[TheCoach16]

Maybe we should have kept pick 135 after all....

Honestly, I didn't even know pick 135 was a thing.
When I first read that we had traded it, I thought people were being facetious, sarcastic, funny....

 

[Sector 7G]

Maybe we should have kept pick 135 after all....

I would have used Pick 153 on Palmer if I was in charge. Thought we over paid

 

[thylacine60]

we don't do funny.........although there were these 3 blokes walked into a national draft .....

 

[TheCoach16]

we don't do funny.........although there were these 3 blokes walked into a national draft .....

..... You'd think after the first two blokes, the third one would've seen it....

 

[ParapMarkets]

Have you watched Brodie play?

We will not select Brodie and Duman with our first 2 picks

Are you taking Knightmare's draft as gospel? Settefield at 15 and Perryman at 37, because they are the next 2 picks GWS have after pick 2 ?

I've seen him play and he looks impressive to me, mind you I haven't seen him anywhere near what the recruiters have. I don't take any notice of Knightmare's draft as he may well do a lot of research but he doesn't have any knowledge of who clubs are interested in.

Cal Twomey and Emma Quayle on the other hand spend a lot of time with these guys and have a lot of contacts at the clubs who divulge information to them about who they think the other teams are looking at picking. Clubs that don't have high draft picks also divulge info to them about who they rate at the top end of the draft, at this stage this information seems to be indicating that Brodie is very much in the picture for us. Obviously things can change as clubs get better and better information as the draft approaches, but at the moment I would suggest he is looking a very good possibility for us.

 

[BlueTongue]

I have sacrificed a chook and spread its gizzards across my kitchen floor to read the future.

I see us selecting Taranto at 5 ahead of Brodie. SOS is concerned about Brodie's blazing away from stoppages and wants cleaner entries and goal scoring options.

If Powell-Pepper is available at 25 then Mr. Silvagni will be reading his name out. Hard bodied, hard running contested beast, ready to go. If he is unavailable, then welcome to Carlton Zac Fisher.

Chook Gizzards be Praised...

"SILVAGNI: I have spoken with the Bolton.
MCKAY: And what does he say, Silvagni?
SILVAGNI: He says many things. He speaks of the great journey of life. He speaks of conquest. He speaks of Carlton rising from its own ashes with wings of fire.
MCKAY: Does he speak of new Premierships?
SILVAGNI: He says we shall have them, and soon. The new sacrifices from the List are the last that he demands.
MCKAY: Then we really are on the brink of having the promise fulfilled.
SILVAGNI: I believe we are, Andrew. I do believe we are. The Second Carlton Empire will be born."

 

[PoultryinMotion]

I have sacrificed a chook and spread its gizzards across my kitchen floor to read the future.

I see us selecting Taranto at 5 ahead of Brodie. SOS is concerned about Brodie's blazing away from stoppages and wants cleaner entries and goal scoring options.

If Powell-Pepper is available at 25 then Mr. Silvagni will be reading his name out. Hard bodied, hard running contested beast, ready to go. If he is unavailable, then welcome to Carlton Zac Fisher.

I have a feeling Scharenberg will still be available then too and would bring similar strengths.

 

[MrsCoach16]

Good call Stig. I made the mistake of going to a 25 year reunion a few years back... Only because I wanted to show Jane Jones (not her real name) how hot MrsCoach is... Take that Jane!

But I've never had so many conversations that started with the sentence "hey, you know who died..?"

Honest to God! This is how he introduced me to everyone that night,
"This is MrsCoach, when we were in year 12, she wasn't even born. How cool is that !"

Seriously , He's the dumbest smart man I've ever met.

 

[MileHigh]

http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/17897568/knightmare-first-2017-afl-phantom-draft

Knightmare has his phantom up and he has us taking.......................

Quite surprised he has Brodie falling to us after he had Brodie listed at pick 3 up until yesterday. Will certainly take it. Brodie has gone from potentially number 1 to pick 5. He had Scrimshaw and Ainsworth much lower so has obviously had a change of opinion.

Really very happy we kept pick 5. Out of Brodie, Scrimshaw, Ainsworth and Taranto we should have someone talented who is going to contribute to our best 22.

 

[HARKER]

If people object to the word "guarantee" unless it is part of the 4 mentioned conditions and they share the same view as you, I understand.

Have stated many times, its not so much who I would take, more on who I wouldn't, happy to leave it at that

But using that system, you may be left taking someone you wouldn't want to, just because they're the best of a bad bunch.
I was genuinely interested as to who you would take at #5, regardless of which methods you use to get to your decision.

The guys I put up as having genuinely liked months ago were: McCluggage, Scrimshaw, Florent, McGrath, Brodie, Taranto.........and Worpel......until I realised that he was an under-ager.
I know Ainsworth should be there also but from what I saw, I could see him get blanketed by a good opponent.