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SPS looks similar to Murphy, undersized for an inside mid, good kicking vision and execution, good pace.
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Great comparison. Those lateral movements, the ability to accelerate and decelerate quickly, his kicking style, even the way he holds the ball before he disposes of it.
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Strewth my post was deleted from Bluemour - no discussion file on basis it was not a rumour. Hard markers indeed.
Not to worry, if Callum Twomey is correct in reporting that we are linked to SPS and if we in fact do take him, I think it will be a good outcome. All about his elite disposal, and that we are backing ourselves to provide an environment where he and others want to stay.
Not to worry, if Callum Twomey is correct in reporting that we are linked to SPS and if we in fact do take him, I think it will be a good outcome. All about his elite disposal, and that we are backing ourselves to provide an environment where he and others want to stay.
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they can go home all they like as long as we get our fair trade for them
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I don't think that really serves the club.
I wouldn't like putting two years into a player just for him to want to leave and for what?.........the chance to get another player you have to start from scratch again? Roll that over a couple of times and you may find you're not gaining much ground at all.
Create the environment that discourages players to leave.....unless the club chooses them to do so.
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If Murphy had the body of JPK or Cripps he would be an absolute beast. I'm talking Judd circa '06 levels of domination.
It's easier to find gems lower in the draft when you're already a strong side. Those teams often need role players who have one particular AFL quality skill but can carry the other deficiencies
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He never was the prototype midfielder; he's just an outstanding player.
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If players want to leave after a flag then I'm fine with that, just get the flag first.
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Interesting comments about Glass-McCasker at approx 1:30 of this video. Summed him up quite well.
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Hope the club has said proper goodbyes to IKON park if so... because i'd be burning the place down.
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I am bored at work and am here till 7am. So...
I am going to do some video analysis of a favourite of mine this draft: Sam Pertovski-Seton
0:06 - SPS receives handball from teammate, kicks just over teammates head
0:09 - SPS sharks the opposition tap, gets space out the back, kicks to the lead of a teammate in the middle of the ground with encroaching pressure
0:16 - SPS receives kick in, hits up target. Kick is a little loopy
0:25 - SPS collects ball between two opponents. Is immediately tackled, handball is smothered, but he retrieves and gets the second handball out.
0:31 - SPS collects loose ball on wing smoothly, turns and kicks to a lead. Good kick, teammate cannot hang on to it.
0:39 - SPS gathers hard ball under pressure, immediately gives it to teammate in a better position
0:42 - SPS taps a loose ball free from a contest, collects and gives to a teammate while blocking for him.
0:47 - SPS receives handball, goes out the back way around 2 opponents. Kick is poor, intercepted.
0:55 - SPS gets ball out the back, gives a handpass to a teammate who is under some pressure. Teammate probably should have made the next handball rather then take on his man.
1:00 - Ball squeezes out of a contest, SPS hunts ball, teammate gets in the way, SPS collects, pivots, handpasses to a free teammate. Classy stuff
1:06 - SPS gets a scrubber handpass and collects off the deck, immediately under pressure. Breaks first tackle, rides second and handpasses to a teammate.
1:12 - SPS is on top of loose ball, does not gather cleanly at first, but is in control, gets through under pressure and snaps at goal. Point.
1:22 - SPS reads opposition tap, gets to ball first, collects under pressure and gives to a teammates run. Teammate fumbles ball (maybe a little hot?)
1:28 - Unclean hitout, ball hits the deck, SPS pounces, collects and is away, three opponents chase and he feigns both directions. Scruffy handpass out to a teammate
1:35 - Ball hits the deck (from a kick?). SPS reads best, accelerates and collects. Makes space, feigns and waits with ball in hand, turns back inside and then selects a bad choice, a contest on the 50. Kick is loopy, favours his teammate, but the choice is bad. From the camera angle it is tough to tell whether there were other free options, certainly the teammate in the pocket would not have been a useful choice.
1:46 - SPS receives wide handpass from a teammate exiting attacking 50. Immediately kicks to the advantage of a teammate, who fumbles the mark.
0:01 - Video starts with SPS with ball in hand. Centering kick which finds leading target with ease.
0:08 - SPS collects loose ball, under some light pressure. Accelerates away, handpasses backwards to free, stationary teammate.
0:16 - SPS collects loose ball, gets tackled (a little high) loses possession.
0:24 - Receives hot handpass under pressure, immediately kicks. It is just ahead of a teammate and opposition intercepts.
0:30 - SPS receives kick on the HBF, turns, hits up target inside.
0:39 - Opposition player is about to receive handball and SPS makes a beeline, as he takes possession SPS steamrolls him in a tackle. Ball spills out.
0:42 - SPS collects a loose ball on the boundary, accelerates away from pressure and hits up a centering kick
0:49 - SPS collects on HBF. Kicks long to contest. Teammate wins the mark, but it's probably not due to SPS kick.
1:05 - SPS receives mark in the middle of the ground as part of a switch. Kicks on to another teammate. At the end of the clip you can see him running forward to drag his man out of position and to try and create an option.
1:14 - Receives ball, opponents approach but SPS has that time and space, switches angles and hits a long handpass out to an available teammate in a dangerous position
1:20 - Loose ball with a pack of players hunting. SPS reads well, gathers, too fast for his pursuer but as he stops and props gets caught as he kicks, causing the ball to go wayward.
1:29 - SPS hunts, collects and pops a loopy kick over the top to the advantage of a teammate.
1:40 - Is an extended version of the earlier clip. In it you can see that the original kick was from a Vic Metro opponent which went over his teammate. SPS chases, gains and overcomes his opponent, collecting and hitting the little pass to teammate in a dangerous position.
1:52 - Same clip as 1:14 but extended. Shows end result. WA goal.
2:02 - Centre bounce. Ball spills out, SPS hunts, collects, is tackled. Gets hands free but handball is hurried. Good choice of target but the execution isn't quite there.
2:08 - SPS leads hard and marks with an opponent right on him on the wing. Turns, spots a teammate in a dangerous position and tries to hit him. Kick is a little overdone, but his teammate probably could have made a better effort to mark, getting a lazy hand to it.
2:20 - Opponent receives ball (from a kick off the ground) and SPS pounces, tackles, ball spills free and Vic M player collects, is tackled well from behind by SPS who locks the ball in. HTB for SPS. Kicks long down the wing to a contest.
2:58 - Ball comes out of the contest and SPS picks it up off the deck at pace running straight into an oncoming player who collects him high. WA plays advantage.
3:07 - SPS intercepts a handpasses, runs into space and hits up a target at CHF.
0:01 - SPS receives ball under pressure as opponents bear down. Scrambles kick forward to contest. Stays involved in a scrappy piece of play, receiving a handball and then dishing it off to a teammate with a little bit more time.
0:15 - Tackles Bowes who is called HTB. Kicks wide to a teammate on lead. Good kick.
0:32 - Receives handball and is immediately confronted. Gives a loopy handpass over the top which finds a teammate, but puts him under some pressure. A relatively good choice.
0:36 - Receives handball out the back. Holds ball and draws tackler then gives off to a running teammate. Teammate gets run down from behind, but this is due to their own lack of awareness.
0:42 - SPS receives handball under pressure. Squeezes handball along the ground in front of teammate. Ball is intercepted but not cleanly.
0:47 - SPS takes a strong mark with an opponent right on him. Kicks short to a target.
0:58 - Ball is loose. SPS and an opponent approach it at speed from opposite directions. SPS collects with a spin move as the opponent goes barreling past him. Miskicks it forward.
1:06 - Receives ball from a handball out of a contest. Hits it at pace and almost immediately moves it on by foot to a target upfield. Kick is a little wide but to advantage.
1:12 - Ball is loose. SPS gathers, gets tackles and handballs over his head to an opponent.
1:18 - SPS collects a kick off one bounce and feeds it to a teammate running in the right direction.
1:23 - Receives ball coming out of traffic. Is surrounded on all sides. Spins, hits kick to target in the center of the ground.
1:32 - Receives ball running at pace from contest. Is slightly held up by a tackler who holds on to his guernsey. Long handball to the advantage of a teammate, but hits the ground.
1:40 - Receives ball which has spilled loose from a contest. Handpasses as pressure comes to a free teammate.
1:45 - Spectacularly sharks a hitout at HBF, breaks through the traffic and kicks long.
1:52 - Receives handball on the HBF while running, kicks a short, low pass which hits the target.
1:59 - Receives a handball at the back of a contest in the forward 50. Snaps to the top of the square. Not to the advantage of his team.
2:05 - Gets a clearance at pace running through the contest with barely a hand on him. Kicks wide out in front of a leading teammate
2:15 - Collects half-volley in the BP, keeps opponent at bay, then hits up a kick to the corridor in the defensive 50.
0:00 - SPS intercepts a handpass at CHF, runs inside 50 and kicks the goal.
0:13 - SPS receives a somewhat dubious free kick at HFF. Hits a lace-out pass to a lead.
0:26 - SPS receives a handball at CHB, looks downfield, doesn't like any options, backs up, almost runs into trouble, dodges out of the way and hits up a kick to a target on the mid-wing.
0:36 - SPS collects ball on HBF against the boundary, slips for a second and in the action thereof apparently drags the ball over the line. Important to note he bounced straight back up, cat-like.
0:44 - Receives handball in FP. Snaps at goal, point.
0:56 - Receives handpass in the middle of the ground. Goes back against the flow, evading opponents. Miskicks out towards the wing.
1:07 - Ruck contest. Wins first possession. Tries to break through. Errant handpass.
1:16 - Briefly gets hand on ball out of a ruck contest, but can't handle it. Is tackled without, gets free kick. Hits up target in the middle of the ground.
Summary:
Sam Petrovski-Seton
Strengths:
Evasiveness: Hard to tackle. Often gets hands free
Vision: Excellent awareness of his surroundings, often spots up and uses targets in dangerous positions
Competitiveness: I did not see him shirk a contest or pull up short in any of the clips (admittedly it is unlikely that any instance would appear). Several times he fought for a hard ball and won. In particular one instance where he came at the ball and collected with a man bearing down in the opposite direction was impressive.
Reading the ball: Has excellent reflexes and understanding of where the ball will be. Often collects loose balls himself, turning a potential 50-50 contest to an advantage.
Pace: He accelerates well and uses it often, leaving opponents in his trail.
Clean hands: Collects the ball cleanly very often, even when under pressure or at pace.
Kicking skils: Accurate kick. Occasionally loopy, and occasionally miskicks
Handballing: Good hands, lacks a bit of strength in long handballing which I would expect him to gain in an AFL system.
Tackling: Relatively strong tackler. Tenacious.
Positioning: Is often well-situated to receive the "get-out" handball backwards. Knows when to go.
Weaknesses:
Light bodied: Doesn't seem to affect him too much, but it is noticeable that he occasionally gets moved a bit too easily.
Ambitious: Tries a bit too much sometimes. Not sure if this is associated with coaching, but he seemed quite set on trying to keep plays alive. His handball over the head occurs in at least two instances, and both times results in a turnover.
Conservative ball use: A lot of sideways kicks, a lot of handball backwards. Often these are the best option. But given SPS skillset, I would like to see him take the game on
Little goalsense: Throughout the clips SPS takes a smattering of pings, and his only success is when he is running towards goal.
No obvious forward play: He is a midfielder throughout these clips, with much of his work occurring on the wings, through the centre and off HBF. Talk of him being a HFF only makes sense if he spends most of his time upfield.
I am going to do some video analysis of a favourite of mine this draft: Sam Pertovski-Seton
0:06 - SPS receives handball from teammate, kicks just over teammates head
0:09 - SPS sharks the opposition tap, gets space out the back, kicks to the lead of a teammate in the middle of the ground with encroaching pressure
0:16 - SPS receives kick in, hits up target. Kick is a little loopy
0:25 - SPS collects ball between two opponents. Is immediately tackled, handball is smothered, but he retrieves and gets the second handball out.
0:31 - SPS collects loose ball on wing smoothly, turns and kicks to a lead. Good kick, teammate cannot hang on to it.
0:39 - SPS gathers hard ball under pressure, immediately gives it to teammate in a better position
0:42 - SPS taps a loose ball free from a contest, collects and gives to a teammate while blocking for him.
0:47 - SPS receives handball, goes out the back way around 2 opponents. Kick is poor, intercepted.
0:55 - SPS gets ball out the back, gives a handpass to a teammate who is under some pressure. Teammate probably should have made the next handball rather then take on his man.
1:00 - Ball squeezes out of a contest, SPS hunts ball, teammate gets in the way, SPS collects, pivots, handpasses to a free teammate. Classy stuff
1:06 - SPS gets a scrubber handpass and collects off the deck, immediately under pressure. Breaks first tackle, rides second and handpasses to a teammate.
1:12 - SPS is on top of loose ball, does not gather cleanly at first, but is in control, gets through under pressure and snaps at goal. Point.
1:22 - SPS reads opposition tap, gets to ball first, collects under pressure and gives to a teammates run. Teammate fumbles ball (maybe a little hot?)
1:28 - Unclean hitout, ball hits the deck, SPS pounces, collects and is away, three opponents chase and he feigns both directions. Scruffy handpass out to a teammate
1:35 - Ball hits the deck (from a kick?). SPS reads best, accelerates and collects. Makes space, feigns and waits with ball in hand, turns back inside and then selects a bad choice, a contest on the 50. Kick is loopy, favours his teammate, but the choice is bad. From the camera angle it is tough to tell whether there were other free options, certainly the teammate in the pocket would not have been a useful choice.
1:46 - SPS receives wide handpass from a teammate exiting attacking 50. Immediately kicks to the advantage of a teammate, who fumbles the mark.
0:01 - Video starts with SPS with ball in hand. Centering kick which finds leading target with ease.
0:08 - SPS collects loose ball, under some light pressure. Accelerates away, handpasses backwards to free, stationary teammate.
0:16 - SPS collects loose ball, gets tackled (a little high) loses possession.
0:24 - Receives hot handpass under pressure, immediately kicks. It is just ahead of a teammate and opposition intercepts.
0:30 - SPS receives kick on the HBF, turns, hits up target inside.
0:39 - Opposition player is about to receive handball and SPS makes a beeline, as he takes possession SPS steamrolls him in a tackle. Ball spills out.
0:42 - SPS collects a loose ball on the boundary, accelerates away from pressure and hits up a centering kick
0:49 - SPS collects on HBF. Kicks long to contest. Teammate wins the mark, but it's probably not due to SPS kick.
1:05 - SPS receives mark in the middle of the ground as part of a switch. Kicks on to another teammate. At the end of the clip you can see him running forward to drag his man out of position and to try and create an option.
1:14 - Receives ball, opponents approach but SPS has that time and space, switches angles and hits a long handpass out to an available teammate in a dangerous position
1:20 - Loose ball with a pack of players hunting. SPS reads well, gathers, too fast for his pursuer but as he stops and props gets caught as he kicks, causing the ball to go wayward.
1:29 - SPS hunts, collects and pops a loopy kick over the top to the advantage of a teammate.
1:40 - Is an extended version of the earlier clip. In it you can see that the original kick was from a Vic Metro opponent which went over his teammate. SPS chases, gains and overcomes his opponent, collecting and hitting the little pass to teammate in a dangerous position.
1:52 - Same clip as 1:14 but extended. Shows end result. WA goal.
2:02 - Centre bounce. Ball spills out, SPS hunts, collects, is tackled. Gets hands free but handball is hurried. Good choice of target but the execution isn't quite there.
2:08 - SPS leads hard and marks with an opponent right on him on the wing. Turns, spots a teammate in a dangerous position and tries to hit him. Kick is a little overdone, but his teammate probably could have made a better effort to mark, getting a lazy hand to it.
2:20 - Opponent receives ball (from a kick off the ground) and SPS pounces, tackles, ball spills free and Vic M player collects, is tackled well from behind by SPS who locks the ball in. HTB for SPS. Kicks long down the wing to a contest.
2:58 - Ball comes out of the contest and SPS picks it up off the deck at pace running straight into an oncoming player who collects him high. WA plays advantage.
3:07 - SPS intercepts a handpasses, runs into space and hits up a target at CHF.
0:01 - SPS receives ball under pressure as opponents bear down. Scrambles kick forward to contest. Stays involved in a scrappy piece of play, receiving a handball and then dishing it off to a teammate with a little bit more time.
0:15 - Tackles Bowes who is called HTB. Kicks wide to a teammate on lead. Good kick.
0:32 - Receives handball and is immediately confronted. Gives a loopy handpass over the top which finds a teammate, but puts him under some pressure. A relatively good choice.
0:36 - Receives handball out the back. Holds ball and draws tackler then gives off to a running teammate. Teammate gets run down from behind, but this is due to their own lack of awareness.
0:42 - SPS receives handball under pressure. Squeezes handball along the ground in front of teammate. Ball is intercepted but not cleanly.
0:47 - SPS takes a strong mark with an opponent right on him. Kicks short to a target.
0:58 - Ball is loose. SPS and an opponent approach it at speed from opposite directions. SPS collects with a spin move as the opponent goes barreling past him. Miskicks it forward.
1:06 - Receives ball from a handball out of a contest. Hits it at pace and almost immediately moves it on by foot to a target upfield. Kick is a little wide but to advantage.
1:12 - Ball is loose. SPS gathers, gets tackles and handballs over his head to an opponent.
1:18 - SPS collects a kick off one bounce and feeds it to a teammate running in the right direction.
1:23 - Receives ball coming out of traffic. Is surrounded on all sides. Spins, hits kick to target in the center of the ground.
1:32 - Receives ball running at pace from contest. Is slightly held up by a tackler who holds on to his guernsey. Long handball to the advantage of a teammate, but hits the ground.
1:40 - Receives ball which has spilled loose from a contest. Handpasses as pressure comes to a free teammate.
1:45 - Spectacularly sharks a hitout at HBF, breaks through the traffic and kicks long.
1:52 - Receives handball on the HBF while running, kicks a short, low pass which hits the target.
1:59 - Receives a handball at the back of a contest in the forward 50. Snaps to the top of the square. Not to the advantage of his team.
2:05 - Gets a clearance at pace running through the contest with barely a hand on him. Kicks wide out in front of a leading teammate
2:15 - Collects half-volley in the BP, keeps opponent at bay, then hits up a kick to the corridor in the defensive 50.
0:00 - SPS intercepts a handpass at CHF, runs inside 50 and kicks the goal.
0:13 - SPS receives a somewhat dubious free kick at HFF. Hits a lace-out pass to a lead.
0:26 - SPS receives a handball at CHB, looks downfield, doesn't like any options, backs up, almost runs into trouble, dodges out of the way and hits up a kick to a target on the mid-wing.
0:36 - SPS collects ball on HBF against the boundary, slips for a second and in the action thereof apparently drags the ball over the line. Important to note he bounced straight back up, cat-like.
0:44 - Receives handball in FP. Snaps at goal, point.
0:56 - Receives handpass in the middle of the ground. Goes back against the flow, evading opponents. Miskicks out towards the wing.
1:07 - Ruck contest. Wins first possession. Tries to break through. Errant handpass.
1:16 - Briefly gets hand on ball out of a ruck contest, but can't handle it. Is tackled without, gets free kick. Hits up target in the middle of the ground.
Summary:
Sam Petrovski-Seton
Strengths:
Evasiveness: Hard to tackle. Often gets hands free
Vision: Excellent awareness of his surroundings, often spots up and uses targets in dangerous positions
Competitiveness: I did not see him shirk a contest or pull up short in any of the clips (admittedly it is unlikely that any instance would appear). Several times he fought for a hard ball and won. In particular one instance where he came at the ball and collected with a man bearing down in the opposite direction was impressive.
Reading the ball: Has excellent reflexes and understanding of where the ball will be. Often collects loose balls himself, turning a potential 50-50 contest to an advantage.
Pace: He accelerates well and uses it often, leaving opponents in his trail.
Clean hands: Collects the ball cleanly very often, even when under pressure or at pace.
Kicking skils: Accurate kick. Occasionally loopy, and occasionally miskicks
Handballing: Good hands, lacks a bit of strength in long handballing which I would expect him to gain in an AFL system.
Tackling: Relatively strong tackler. Tenacious.
Positioning: Is often well-situated to receive the "get-out" handball backwards. Knows when to go.
Weaknesses:
Light bodied: Doesn't seem to affect him too much, but it is noticeable that he occasionally gets moved a bit too easily.
Ambitious: Tries a bit too much sometimes. Not sure if this is associated with coaching, but he seemed quite set on trying to keep plays alive. His handball over the head occurs in at least two instances, and both times results in a turnover.
Conservative ball use: A lot of sideways kicks, a lot of handball backwards. Often these are the best option. But given SPS skillset, I would like to see him take the game on
Little goalsense: Throughout the clips SPS takes a smattering of pings, and his only success is when he is running towards goal.
No obvious forward play: He is a midfielder throughout these clips, with much of his work occurring on the wings, through the centre and off HBF. Talk of him being a HFF only makes sense if he spends most of his time upfield.
I've heard or read nothing that suggests that SPS is a flight risk. Someone actually said at some point that he wants to play in Melbourne as a preference. I'll see if I can did that comment up.
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One thing that stands out to me with SPS is his low centre of gravity. Looks like the bloke could run lying down.
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It was about 2007/8 when he had bulked up considerably. Express he was cut down with shoulder/collarbone injuries for going in hard and hodge and Dangerfield murdering him with bumps. Injury hasn't allowed him to get back to that. Maybe 2018.
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It seems like SPS is the trendy pick 5 for now. I would be disappointed if we went down that route, although I think he is a talented footballer. I am firmly of the belief that you hit the draft with your needs in mind. We just traded in Pickett to play virtually the same role as SPS. What are we lacking? Ready to go midfielders to replace Murphy and Gibbs in coming years. Brodie or Taranto for me. Let's get some reliable guns first to fill gaping midfield gaps
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Recall him being talked up last year as a possible high pick this year. Obviously didn't kick on much...needs some spinach.
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SPS is just as inside as Murphy
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