Hot Topic 2016 DRAFT

[coryne]

GWS wont do that though. I believe the first two picks are set in stone, McGluggage and McGrath and the BL will still get the same player even if they bid on Bowes. Just like we get the same player even after bidding on Bowes, assuming the Lions don't bid on him before us. That's why I was saying earlier that bidding on Bowes is pointless. GCS get Bowes 100%, BL get Ainsworth who seems to be their first choice, Ainsworth wants to go their too I believe, and we will take SPS, if recent talk is correct that he is our first choice. GWS have clearly locked onto McGrath as well. That's why they traded as they did, so they could get him.

The point is to make the gcs pay market value for the player otherwise why have a bidding system at all .....

It is stupid that clubs have to set the value of academy players considering the perceived consequences of bidding (fear of repercussions if a bid is perceived to be too early or clubs deliberately bidding early to force clubs to overpay). The AFL should have a committee to set the price of each academy player/fs selection so it is independent .....

 

[Funk]

stop quivering - he meant 'guarantee'...........

Was there any mention of a "bank"?

 

[thylacine60]

That would be the new Taketothe Bank.

 

[LemmingMaster]

The point is to make the gcs pay market value for the player otherwise why have a bidding system at all .....

It is stupid that clubs have to set the value of academy players considering the perceived consequences of bidding (fear of repercussions if a bid is perceived to be too early or clubs deliberately bidding early to force clubs to overpay). The AFL should have a committee to set the price of each academy player/fs selection so it is independent .....

You want the AFL to have a complete recruitment department just to value Academy player?
Top ten idiotic comments ive seen this week.

or you think they should just use a BF mock draft?

 

[The Smoking Gun]

LemmingMaster your thoughts on Quinton Narkle as a 3rd or 4th round selection. Don't think talent is the issue, but commitment maybe???

 

[coryne]

You want the AFL to have a complete recruitment department just to value Academy player?
Top ten idiotic comments ive seen this week.

or you think they should just use a BF mock draft?

Yes because the afl has no-one involved in the assessment of players coming through the draft. The AIS squads are chosen at random, along with the u18 AA team. It would be unbelievable to get 3 people already involved with afl development programs to sit down and evaluate the academy selections and allocate a fair value on them .....

 

[CRIPPA9]

LemmingMaster your thoughts on Quinton Narkle as a 3rd or 4th round selection. Don't think talent is the issue, but commitment maybe???

From what I've seen of him, I'd take him with a later pick or in the rookie draft. Would think there'd be better options at our 3rd. Like what I've seen though.

 

[thylacine60]

Make it stop.....

 

[bmaurizio]

Defiently if Silvagni passes on SPS at pick 5, which prima facie would be a boo-boo , then Brodie or Taranto and 2nd round pick Rioli, 21 yrs , matured and ready to fire , this lad could be the steal of the draft , capable of 10 to 15 minutes of scintillating footy that can destroy opposition off his own boot.

 

[RudyBlue]

He's just a different type of cat.

 

[Jimmae]

Two spots available for the Phantom draft if anyone is still seeking.

 

[zeeCFC]

Who has Hawthorn? They can double up if they haven't already

 

[Wheels On Meals]

Defiently if Silvagni passes on SPS at pick 5, which prima facie would be a boo-boo , then Brodie or Taranto and 2nd round pick Rioli, 21 yrs , matured and ready to fire , this lad could be the steal of the draft , capable of 10 to 15 minutes of scintillating footy that can destroy opposition off his own boot.

What does he do for the other 100 minutes?

 

[LemmingMaster]

Yes because the afl has no-one involved in the assessment of players coming through the draft. The AIS squads are chosen at random, along with the u18 AA team. It would be unbelievable to get 3 people already involved with afl development programs to sit down and evaluate the academy selections and allocate a fair value on them .....

I could put 18 recruitment managers down and get them to show me their rankings and they would be completely different.
Yet you want to place the power of rating the ENTIRE draft pool to the AFL. Maybe just 3 people to evaluate what is fair and reasonable value.

I just struggle to understand how having 17 other clubs rate the academy kids is a worse option than getting the AFL to do it.

 

[smashbox gill]

For pick 25 I'd be bidding on GWS academy players Sproule or Mcredie. Both look to be very good KP players and I don't think GWS would have the points to match. Think both could potentially be A grade players.

I also really like Zac Fisher at 25 should he be available.

 

[DirkDiggler]

Does anyone else see this as an opportunity to slot in a quality inside mid in Jonty Sharenberg at pick 25. He is all class.

 

[PumpyChowdown]

GWS wont do that though. I believe the first two picks are set in stone, McGluggage and McGrath and the BL will still get the same player even if they bid on Bowes. Just like we get the same player even after bidding on Bowes, assuming the Lions don't bid on him before us. That's why I was saying earlier that bidding on Bowes is pointless. GCS get Bowes 100%, BL get Ainsworth who seems to be their first choice, Ainsworth wants to go their too I believe, and we will take SPS, if recent talk is correct that he is our first choice. GWS have clearly locked onto McGrath as well. That's why they traded as they did, so they could get him.

GWS aren't keen on McCluggage at all. They will pick Ainsworth at #2 if * take McGrath. My source is good.

 

[Arr0w]

GWS aren't keen on McCluggage at all. They will pick Ainsworth at #2 if * take McGrath. My source is good.

Concur

 

[The Smoking Gun]

GWS aren't keen on McCluggage at all. They will pick Ainsworth at #2 if * take McGrath. My source is good.

Concur

Think Ainsworth fills one of the very few minuscule gaps within their list. Readymade replacement for Stevie J. Rather scary really.

For pick 25 I'd be bidding on GWS academy players Sproule or Mcredie. Both look to be very good KP players and I don't think GWS would have the points to match. Think both could potentially be A grade players.
I also really like Zac Fisher at 25 should he be available.

That's where I'm at smashbox gill re Pick 25. arrow quite likes Sproule, but I don't particularly rate him. Then again I don't really rate any of the KPFs in this draft. I do rate Macreadie quite highly though and he has clean, crisp disposal and a bit of pace too. Think I'd eventually end up using Macreadie & Marchbank as our KPDs and using Weitering as our 3rd tall intercept/rebounder. Saw Weitering up at Metricon in this role during his 3rd game. He collected 24 disposals at 84% DE, 9 marks and bounded down the ground setting up play. Once Jamo lost his spot I kept wondering how do we free up Weitering again??? Macreadie would give us that option, but he's also good enough he can do some of the intercepting & rebounding himself.

 

[Arr0w]

Think Ainsworth fills one of the very few minuscule gaps within their list. Readymade replacement for Stevie J. Rather scary really.

GWS love guys with explosive power, hence McGrath or Ainsworth

That's where I'm at smashbox gill re Pick 25. arrow quite likes Sproule, but I don't particularly rate him. Then again I don't really rate any of the KPFs in this draft. I do rate Macreadie quite highly though and he has clean, crisp disposal and a bit of pace too. Think I'd eventually end up using Macreadie & Marchbank as our KPDs and using Weitering as our 3rd tall intercept/rebounder. Saw Weitering up at Metricon in this role during his 3rd game. He collected 24 disposals at 84% DE, 9 marks and bounded down the ground setting up play. Once Jamo lost his spot I kept wondering how do we free up Weitering again??? Macreadie would give us that option, but he's also good enough he can do some of the intercepting & rebounding himself.

I actually rate Brennan Cox in front of both of them, just believe he should be selected before our 2nd rounder. Played predominantly forward until switched to KPD this year where we won AA. McCreadie is a safer pick, but I believe Sproule has a better upside. Can play KPF, very good set shot, to KPD or on ball in a similar vein to Biclavs

 

[DirkDiggler]

Todd Marshall anyone if he lasts to our second round pick. Anybody watch him play?

 

[Jimmae]

Todd Marshall anyone if he lasts to our second round pick. Anybody watch him play?

He can be a shocking kick sometimes, but yeah for sure at #25.

 

[SABlue]

Think Ainsworth fills one of the very few minuscule gaps within their list. Readymade replacement for Stevie J. Rather scary really.


That's where I'm at smashbox gill re Pick 25. arrow quite likes Sproule, but I don't particularly rate him. Then again I don't really rate any of the KPFs in this draft. I do rate Macreadie quite highly though and he has clean, crisp disposal and a bit of pace too. Think I'd eventually end up using Macreadie & Marchbank as our KPDs and using Weitering as our 3rd tall intercept/rebounder. Saw Weitering up at Metricon in this role during his 3rd game. He collected 24 disposals at 84% DE, 9 marks and bounded down the ground setting up play. Once Jamo lost his spot I kept wondering how do we free up Weitering again??? Macreadie would give us that option, but he's also good enough he can do some of the intercepting & rebounding himself.

Apparently there is 5 or so very good bigs in the top 10 in the 2017 draft. I'm guessing we will get a pick in that top 10 so let's wait till then and get real quality rather than a speculative pick in the 20's. Let's not forget B.Silvagni the following year too. Mid's with more upside in the 20's than the limited tall's in the 20's.

 

[smashbox gill]

Todd Marshall anyone if he lasts to our second round pick. Anybody watch him play?

think he will be gone by 25. will be taken 8-16

 

[My name geoff]

Watching some of the draft highlights, I reackon ifSilvagni, Weitering, and McKay were all born a couple of weeks later they could have potentially all been top 10 picks this year.