Hot Topic 2016 DRAFT

[HARKER]

It's a good point Harks, I wonder if DVR was given a senior game early in the piece if that could have helped him find a spark.
Yeah I know it wasn't "earned" but neither was Jaksch, Smith and Whiley's first games.
I remember "Slug" Jordan telling a story about watching SOS train at the Teal Cup back in the 80's and thinking that he showed nothing on the track and didn't understand the hype. That all changed when he was thrust into a competitive game and Slug knew he would be a star.
Not saying players like DVR, Gowers etc would be stars but it would have been good to see if they could step up..

I think some players need to be loved. Sounds silly but it's simply a human trait and one not all can overcome when they're made to feel on the outer.
Interesting you brought up DVR, because even at training he seemed to be on the outer........and that may have come about of his own doing......or lack of doing.....but we'll never know for sure.

My point was that we can select a terrific third-tall backman and a player with more quality than the next player selected, but if he spends two years in the VFL because Plowman, Marchbank, Byrne and Sheehan are ripping it up, his mind may start wandering and questioning his own value.

Of course you have to select the right talent, but needs basis cannot be ignored either.

 

[Pafloyul]

I think some players need to be loved. Sounds silly but it's simply a human trait and one not all can overcome when they're made to feel on the outer.
Interesting you brought up DVR, because even at training he seemed to be on the outer........and that may have come about of his own doing......or lack of doing.....but we'll never know for sure.

My point was that we can select a terrific third-tall backman and a player with more quality than the next player selected, but if he spends two years in the VFL because Plowman, Marchbank, Byrne and Sheehan are ripping it up, his mind may start wandering and questioning his own value.

Of course you have to select the right talent, but needs basis cannot be ignored either.

Opportunity comes just as much from circumstance as it does from intent. You get the players in first before you visualise what they can do for your side, not the other way around. I'm sure Curnow wasn't pigeonholed before we got him, for instance.

 

[Arr0w]

Kids that have been invited to the draft

 

[HARKER]

Opportunity comes just as much from circumstance as it does from intent. You get the players in first before you visualise what they can do for your side, not the other way around. I'm sure Curnow wasn't pigeonholed before we got him, for instance.

Curnow? A forward or a mid..........can easily slot into either role without taking games form another.

You have to visualize. It would be silly not to as who knows..........we could end up with an abundance of HBF'ers.......

 

[Pafloyul]

Curnow? A forward or a mid..........can easily slot into either role without taking games form another.

You have to visualize. It would be silly not to as who knows..........we could end up with an abundance of ......

What I mean is you visualise what they can do in isolation rather than trying to get players that fit into some narrow definition of some playing position. Those HBF'ers you elude to were all envisaged to be midfielders, oddly enough.

 

[Jimmae]

Had a bit of a chuckle at this...

Took a look at their overall mock and: it's bad. Kerr at #25 was the worst of our pick IMO.

 

[ferrisb]

Took a look at their overall mock and: it's bad. Kerr at #25 was the worst of our pick IMO.

Kerr has gone at our 2nd pick in at least half the phantoms I've seen.

#25 is at a stretch the earliest you could take him. Then factor in we probably need another KPF and the Carlton connection and everyone is pencilling it in.

I see him as almost guaranteed (Thy TM) to go after #25 and probably before #48.

If Carlton is interested in him, I'm sure they will take the risk of being available at 48+. He's the kind of player you might want and would be annoyed to miss out on, but not so much you would reach for him, IMHO.

 

[Jimmae]

Kerr has gone at our 2nd pick in at least half the phantoms I've seen.

#25 is at a stretch the earliest you could take him. Then factor in we probably need another KPF and the Carlton connection and everyone is pencilling it in.

I see him as almost guaranteed (Thy TM) to go after #25 and probably before #48.

If Carlton is interested in him, I'm sure they will take the risk of being available at 48+. He's the kind of player you might want and would be annoyed to miss out on, but not so much you would reach for him, IMHO.

I reckon there's better KPF/KPD investments to be made at those later picks anyway. McLarty, McCarthy and a few more will be about.

 

[Funk]

Don't think having a fan club is a good thing, Arr0w . Now you have to have mail-outs, meetings, appearances at shopping centres, merchandise.....they'll expect you to be a role-model for kids.........I've read about it.........are you up for it?

As well as your own Facebook page!!!!

 

[Funk]

I still laugh about when I received my membership pack (2010 i think!) and it had a Kangaroos scarf in it!

Spose you were hopping mad about that.

 

[KohPhi]

Spose you were hopping mad about that.

Not wrong.. I remember thinking "wallaby damned!!"...


Sorry.

 

[mediumsizered]

Spose you were hopping mad about that.

Not wrong.. I remember thinking "wallaby damned!!"...


Sorry.

Is there a thread for 'Dad' jokes?

 

[BlackGoanna]

That's all well and good if they are there but I wouldn't be stretching our opinions of a player's ability just because we need to 'plug holes'; we've been doing that for ages and the only one that has worked (so far) is Cripps.

You could throw a blanket over 10 players in this range and you won't win a game with all top end talent playing in the same position

 

[Blue__Balls]

Nup.

But we lost Jacobs, Bell, Betts, Hendo and nearly Gibbs to the "go home" factor.

Why go down this path if we don't need to?

Last year we focussed on Melbourne/VIC boys.

I would be very happy if we did so again..

I agree with that as a general rule - but given Jarman would probably be taken with one of our very late picks (50's or 60's) I'd be happy enough to take the chance.

If he shows enough that Adelaide actually want him, we'd probably get a late second or early third rounder back in a trade. If he doesn't do enough, we'll delist him before he gets a chance to ask for a trade anyway.

First and second round picks need to be carefully considered to eliminate flight risk where possible - later picks, just take the best player and back yourself in to either keep them or increase their value.

 

[Bic]

Looks like all the noise is McGrath is going pick 1...

That will shake a few things I think... Could mean a bid for Bowes sooner... Taranto could be gone by pick 2... Ainsworth could slide.

 

[Blue and Silver]

I don't like Kerr at 25, but haven't got a solid want for that pick either :/

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[Canyouhearthedrums]

Re Kerr: never seen him play but I read that his agility is very poor. KPs with poor agility tend to struggle at AFL level, big red flag

 

[Blugazi]

Kids that have been invited to the draft

Interested to see where Gallucci ends up, Sydney with their second pick?

 

[Arr0w]

Interested to see where Gallucci ends up, Sydney with their second pick?

Will be interesting, surprised a little, I have him pegged as a mid second rounder. So perhaps Sydney and possibly PA, given they have two early picks

 

[1981]

What time I see the draft EST?
I've got to pick up my wife at 7.15, that's really inconvenient

 

[Blugazi]

Will be interesting, surprised a little, I have him pegged as a mid second rounder. So perhaps Sydney and possibly PA, given they have two early picks

Port would make sense.

 

[Lace_Out]

What time I see the draft EST?
I've got to pick up my wife at 7.15, that's really inconvenient

There's plenty of public transport these days.......But that would be a death sentence!

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[HARKER]

Interested to see where Gallucci ends up, Sydney with their second pick?

Only the top ten make their way to the stage, so someone may have made some noise that Gallucci was a possibility there....or the AFL just guess.

 

[Navara79]

What time I see the draft EST?
I've got to pick up my wife at 7.15, that's really inconvenient

Last year the telecast started at 7.30pm but the first pick wasnt read out untill 8.10pm.

 

[Big Sim is Back]

Looks like all the noise is McGrath is going pick 1...

That will shake a few things I think... Could mean a bid for Bowes sooner... Taranto could be gone by pick 2... Ainsworth could slide.

I think GWS will take Ainsworth if thats the case. McGrath was supposed to succeed Shaw; Ainsworth would replace Stevie J. They had to use Palmer to do that in the Prelim with dire results and now even he is gone so they need someone like Ainsworth for sure.

Couldn't see Brisbane passing up McL, nor bidding on Bowes, so it will still depend on what Gold Coast do with pick 4. They will make the choice of Taranto or SPS for us I think, and either one is good for us. Unless the rumours of Hayward are true but it seems a heck of a gamble.