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it was actually our pick 8 & Everitt for their pick 6. we'd go two places up the table.

That makes sense as GC would have still got their choice of Cal Ah Chee at 8.

It means we could have found out if SOS really did like Weideman. He would have had his choice of Weid or Harry.

I wonder why the deal fell through? Was it just too late to get Everitt's say so maybe?

Maybe SOS at the end was happy with Harry and decided not to give Everitt away for nicks.
 

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Is that a known fact about the GCS late first round pick for Everitt? Surely we would have jumped at that offer.

According to barass70, the proposed deal was #11 and Everitt for #6.

As it worked out it would have given us the choice of Weideman or McKay at #6 as we would have then still taken Charlie at #8.

We were the one's that knocked it back.
 
Is that a known fact about the GCS late first round pick for Everitt? Surely we would have jumped at that offer.

According to barass70, the proposed deal was #11 and Everitt for #6.

As it worked out it would have given us the choice of Weideman or McKay at #6 as we would have then still taken Charlie at #8.

We were the one's that knocked it back.
I think EQ said pick 28 was offered. I think a similar deal might be offered again this season.

Despite how many shitcan him on both major CFC forums, he can kick and he can run, but he's just not working in our system for some reason, and no, it's not defensive running. I'm tired of hearing that bollocks: he ran both ways at Sydney and under MM.

I think he just doesn't get our defensive structure at the moment or it's a personality clash about how to execute it. Perhaps the odd niggle early on in the season impacted him as well.
 
I think EQ said pick 28 was offered. I think a similar deal might be offered again this season.

Despite how many shitcan him on both major CFC forums, he can kick and he can run, but he's just not working in our system for some reason, and no, it's not defensive running. I'm tired of hearing that bollocks: he ran both ways at Sydney and under MM.

I think he just doesn't get our defensive structure at the moment or it's a personality clash about how to execute it. Perhaps the odd niggle early on in the season impacted him as well.

Yep. Quayle believed it was #29 "and another pick" that was offered by GC, but the deal would only go through on the proviso we secured Tomlinson.

deathanxiety had a different version which was Everitt to GC, and they'd upgrade our #21 to #16 and #8 to #6.
 
Despite how many shitcan him on both major CFC forums, he can kick and he can run, but he's just not working in our system for some reason, and no, it's not defensive running. I'm tired of hearing that bollocks: he ran both ways at Sydney and under MM.

I haven't forgotten he kicked 31 goals last season in the wooden spoon side. The talent is there.

A spell in the VFL sooner would have allowed him to work on a few things.
 
I haven't forgotten he kicked 31 goals last season in the wooden spoon side. The talent is there.

A spell in the VFL sooner would have allowed him to work on a few things.
Played as a utility for the two seasons before that (one at the Swans, mostly out of defence). Can play.
 

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Played as a utility for the two seasons before that (one at the Swans, mostly out of defence). Can play.

his best year was as a disciplined hbf at sydney. played on a man and then ran off him. had a very good season but that was a while ago now. at the moment he picks and chooses when to go and does it too much. even at vfl level. if we can get anything from 40 and under i'd do it in a heartbeat. not the future and if he cant play well under bolton now he never will.
 
his best year was as a disciplined hbf at sydney. played on a man and then ran off him. had a very good season but that was a while ago now. at the moment he picks and chooses when to go and does it too much. even at vfl level. if we can get anything from 40 and under i'd do it in a heartbeat. not the future and if he cant play well under bolton now he never will.
Disagree. Would only trade if Dre wants to go and gets us something we need.
Dre has played well in previous seasons and is young enough to have several more very good seasons.
He can play a variety of roles and will be very hard to replace. particularly in our forward rotation.
I think Tomlinson is a logical replacement, but Dre is a better kick at present.
 
Disagree. Would only trade if Dre wants to go and gets us something we need.
Dre has played well in previous seasons and is young enough to have several more very good seasons.
He can play a variety of roles and will be very hard to replace. particularly in our forward rotation.

i have to disagree. i reckon this is typical of our problem of the past decade. we hang on to average players for too long hoping they might do well because they played a good season or game here and there. everitt is at best an average afl player. the sooner we move on form these types of players the better we will be as a side and as a club. one good season in nine and now with 130 games is a poor return. he is in the reserves when we are a poor side and on a losing streak. where does it end?
 
Disagree. Would only trade if Dre wants to go and gets us something we need.
Dre has played well in previous seasons and is young enough to have several more very good seasons.
He can play a variety of roles and will be very hard to replace. particularly in our forward rotation.
I think Tomlinson is a logical replacement, but Dre is a better kick at present.

Dre can play, but only when it suits him.
There have been many instances of this, but there was a game not that long ago where I didn't even notice him until the final quarter. He'll be gone at years end and hopefully the Suns still want him.
 
Yep. Quayle believed it was #29 "and another pick" that was offered by GC, but the deal would only go through on the proviso we secured Tomlinson.

deathanxiety had a different version which was Everitt to GC, and they'd upgrade our #21 to #16 and #8 to #6.

I can't see that we wouldn't have accepted this offer as Weideman would have been ours.........and McKay would have been an Adelaide player (We would have taken Curnow next, regardless) SOS rated Weideman highly.

Don't know whether the next selection may have serviced us though, as Cuningham may have been taken at that #16 anyway.
 
Dre can play, but only when it suits him.
There have been many instances of this, but there was a game not that long ago where I didn't even notice him until the final quarter. He'll be gone at years end and hopefully the Suns still want him.
So the challenge for Bolts is to get Dre to play well every time (and not be injured).
We are getting rid of around 12 players this year and need to retain some experience and depth on the list.
I think Dre stays unless we get something valuable back.
 

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So the challenge for Bolts is to get Dre to play well every time (and not be injured).
We are getting rid of around 12 players this year and need to retain some experience and depth on the list.
I think Dre stays unless we get something valuable back.

We don't need Dre with Silvagni and C.Curnow coming through.
We also have Lamb who plays a pretty similar role.
 
I can't see that we wouldn't have accepted this offer as Weideman would have been ours.........and McKay would have been an Adelaide player (We would have taken Curnow next, regardless) SOS rated Weideman highly.

Don't know whether the next selection may have serviced us though, as Cuningham may have been taken at that #16 anyway.
Agree on Cuningham as Gresham and Burton were off the board at that pick (20 after bids), may have gone for Lovell, maybe.

Disagree on us automatically accepting the trade though, I'd imagine 29 would have been more valuable to us if there was an option (worth substantially more points too).
 
We don't need Dre with Silvagni and C.Curnow coming through.
We also have Lamb who plays a pretty similar role.

Don't forget Tomlinson who also looks all but certain to be at the club next year.

Between AT and the two others you mentioned above, we have more than enough young talent to cover for Dre. He's certainly someone we can afford to move on at the end of the year - in fact I'd be stunned if he's still in navy blue next year.
 
Don't forget Tomlinson who also looks all but certain to be at the club next year.

Between AT and the two others you mentioned above, we have more than enough young talent to cover for Dre. He's certainly someone we can afford to move on at the end of the year - in fact I'd be stunned if he's still in navy blue next year.
I am Ok with Dre leaving but not for nothing. He is still valuable to us.
 
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