Hot Topic 2016 DRAFT

[Jimmae]

RE: Levi, maybe we could have got a pick in the range of 18-25 last year if we'd offered him up, maybe. Then this year happened.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-...rry-oliver-florent-excel-in-combine-beep-test

DAY TWO TESTING RESULTS

Beep test
Jarrod Berry (level 15.1)
Oliver Florent (15.1)
Griffin Logue (15.1)
Harry Morrison (14.12)
Dylan Clarke (14.12)
Sam Powell-Pepper (14.7)
Liam Baker (14.5)
Tom Williamson (14.5)
Patrick Lipinski (14.5)
Jordan Gallucci (14.5)

20 metre sprint
Jacob Allison (2.87 seconds)
Ben Ainsworth (2.90)
Josh Rotham (2.92)
Josh Williams (2.93)
Bailey Morrish (2.93)
Taylin Duman (2.93)
Esava Ratugolea (2.93)
Will Hayward (2.94)
Tony Olango (2.94)
Shai Bolton (2.95)

Agility
Tom Williamson (8.15 seconds)
Jack Maibaum (8.19)
Sam Powell-Pepper (8.24)
Harry Morrison (8.26)
Oliver Florent (8.26)
Matt Guelfi (8.29)
Isaac Cumming (8.29)
Ben Ainsworth (8.36)
Jack Scrimshaw (8.39)
Andrew McGrath (8.38)

Standing vertical jump
Jordan Gallucci (89cm)
Esava Ratugolea (76)
Will Hayward (73)
Griffin Logue (71)
Bailey Morrish (71)
Shai Bolton (68)
Callum Brown (68)
Josh Rotham (67)
Max Lynch (67)
Jacob Allison (67)
Jack Bowes (67)
Tom Williamson (67)

Running vertical jump (left foot)
Andrew McGrath (96cm)
Shai Bolton (94)
Cameron Zurhaar (92)
Brennan Cox (92)
Tony Olango (91)
Jordan Gallucci (91)
Oliver Florent (90)
Bailey Morrish (90)
Will Hayward (90)
Esava Ratugolea (89)
Tom Williamson (88)
Harry Morrison (88)

Running vertical jump (right foot)
Griffin Logue (91cm)
Bailey Morrish (91)
Esava Ratugolea (89)
Jordan Gallucci (86)
Andrew McGrath (85)
Ben Ainsworth (84)
Tom Williamson (83)
Jack Scrimshaw (83)
Declan Watson (83)
Mitchell Hinge (83)
Jack Bowes (82)

 

[blues240z]

I'm sure Levi will be played up the ground now, wouldn't be surprised if he sees a lot of ruck time around the grounds chopping out kreuzer. Just keep him the hell away from those point/outonthefull posts.

 

[The Grover]

3km time trial

Clarke - 9.52
Battle - 10.07
Drew - 10.08

 

[Aphrodite]

Need another quality midfielder. Half a dozen decent forwards, built around a key position forward.

We need to trade Casboult for a first round draft pick or another player.

Still not sure if bringing in the youth is the right option. In maybe 4 or 5 years the core group of draft picks (Wietering, Cripps, Silvangi, Boakhurst, McKay)might have grown into decent players, but that's still a lot of years down the drain (and traditionally Carlton fans aren't very patient). We don't know if these young kids are going to be quality stars, I wonder if this was yet another mistake when we could of been trading older players for quality stars. At least we would have some talent in the foreseeable future.

 

[GoBlues!]

He can't even kick a goal from 20 metres out. He proberly isn't worth a first round draft pick, but we should be pushing harder to get something.

I like your enthusiasm but Levi's trade value is more like 3rd round plus.

Mind you I think there was a Geelong poster wanting our #5 plus Tuohy for Motlop. Maybe we could swap Levi for Motlop, and they could throw in a sweetener like Kersten.

 

[Jimmae]

Something to note is that pick 24 is effectively the difference between pick 5 and pick 16 on points, thus the proposed GWS trade is about facilitating their want to make a selection ahead of their expected bid points.

This tells us SOS doesn't rate all bar one of SPS, Brodie, Taranto, English, Scrimshaw or Ainsworth versus maintaining another pick in the top 25.

 

[Jimmae]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-09/combine-wrap-no1-pick-now-a-race-in-two

Are we any closer to knowing who will be the No.1 pick?
In short, yes. It's been a wide open field for the No.1 spot all year but most recruiters tend to think it is now a race in two: Hugh McCluggage and Andrew McGrath.

 

[HARKER]

Logue being talked about as a possible top ten now.
All those 'outsiders' I liked, are not outsiders any more.

 

[Jimmae]

Logue being talked about as a possible top ten now.
All those 'outsiders' I liked, are not outsiders any more.

There'd have to be a club pretty desperate for talls. He can run and accumulate but he's not agile and he's not a midfielder/creative type.

Big difference between him versus Berry, Allison and Scrimshaw.

 

[Sector 7G]

RE: Levi, maybe we could have got a pick in the range of 18-25 last year if we'd offered him up, maybe. Then this year happened.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-...rry-oliver-florent-excel-in-combine-beep-test

Gallucci must be part frog if his running vertical jump is only 2cm more than his standing vertical jump. Sounds like an error

 

[HARKER]

Gallucci must be part frog if his running vertical jump is only 2cm more than his standing vertical jump. Sounds like an error

May need to change his surname to Gautier.

 

[Arr0w]

There'd have to be a club pretty desperate for talls. He can run and accumulate but he's not agile and he's not a midfielder/creative type.

Big difference between him versus Berry, Allison and Scrimshaw.

Logue did amass 30 odd possessions recently while running through the midfield


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[Jimmae]

Logue did amass 30 odd possessions recently while running through the midfield


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Yeah but anyone who's seen him play knows he's not going to shimmy his way out of traffic. His ability through the midfield is largely in terms of outside run, which is fine, just means you're using him off CHF or CHB.

No idea why anyone would grab him in the top 15 though,; Kieran Collins without the puppy fat.

 

[Bradschi]

You want to keep Casboult then do you? He can't even kick a goal from 20 metres out. He proberly isn't worth a first round draft pick, but we should be pushing harder to get something. The main reason we are where we are is from poor recruiting in the last few years. Did you read the rest of my comments, there is no guarantee that these kids will be any good, I may we wrong, I just hope these rebuild years are not wasted years.

I have no problem with your comment of trading Casboult, and I don't feel strongly about it either way. But the fact that you think we can even get close to a first round pick for Levi is, well, as the old saying goes: "You're Dreaming"

 

[TerryWallet]

GWS get 3 off Freo for 7, McCarthy and a bit more. GC get 2 plus Hanley(for eg) off Brisbane for 4 and 8. And 6 for Prestia and knives. All are reported tonight by E.Quayle as likely.

Therefore, wouldn't this draft scenario put the wind up the Vic clubs:

Nudge nudges: GWS won't bid on Bowes if GC skip McGrath

1. ESS McCluggage
2. GC Brodie
3. GWS McGrath
4. BL SPS
5. GWS Ainsworth
6. GC Taranto
7. GC Bowes (bid by Freo)
8. Freo English
9. GWS Setterfield
10. BL Scrimshaw
11. GWS Perryman (bid by Port)

 

[Arr0w]

Yeah but anyone who's seen him play knows he's not going to shimmy his way out of traffic. His ability through the midfield is largely in terms of outside run, which is fine, just means you're using him off CHF or CHB.

No idea why anyone would grab him in the top 15 though,; Kieran Collins without the puppy fat.

He is more versatile than Collins, he has already played seniors and more than held his own. His aggression is also a trait that is of interest, let alone his athletic prowess. Would be surprised if he wasn't taken as the first KPP before end of the first roun


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[slashin_velvet]

Haven't followed the draft too closely, but I'm a romantic when it comes to football, so I want Kerr. Where's he expected to go?

 

[Jimmae]

GWS get 3 off Freo for 7, McCarthy and a bit more. GC get 2 plus Hanley(for eg) off Brisbane for 4 and 8. And 6 for Prestia and knives. All are reported tonight by E.Quayle as likely.

Therefore, wouldn't this draft scenario put the wind up the Vic clubs:

Nudge nudges: GWS won't bid on Bowes if GC skip McGrath

1. ESS McCluggage
2. GC Brodie
3. GWS McGrath
4. BL SPS
5. GWS Ainsworth
6. GC Taranto
7. GC Bowes (bid by Freo)
8. Freo English
9. GWS Setterfield
10. BL Scrimshaw
11. GWS Perryman (bid by Port)

The GC/Bris trade rates Hanley at 16; not sure that's a fair deal. Suspect that GC will give them something like #28 for #21, or #25 for #19 as well. That rates him at 22.

Others have pointed out it makes more sense for Freo to trade further down, say 15, 32, 34 and McCarthy for 3 and 40. That opens up the ability for them to trade for Hill. Depends on how much they like English.

Another is 15, 16 and McCarthy.

He is more versatile than Collins, he has already played seniors and more than held his own. His aggression is also a trait that is of interest, let alone his athletic prowess. Would be surprised if he wasn't taken as the first KPP before end of the first roun


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OK, but is he damaging with the footy in hand? Can he set up attacks, or just snag a goal out the back.

 

[ParapMarkets]

RE: Levi, maybe we could have got a pick in the range of 18-25 last year if we'd offered him up, maybe. Then this year happened.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-...rry-oliver-florent-excel-in-combine-beep-test

What kind of draft range would you think for Florent? He would have risen a bit at the end of the year, especially with his game in the All stars. Maybe an option if we do get our hands on 15/16?

 

[Red Bull]

GWS get 3 off Freo for 7, McCarthy and a bit more. GC get 2 plus Hanley(for eg) off Brisbane for 4 and 8. And 6 for Prestia and knives. All are reported tonight by E.Quayle as likely.

Therefore, wouldn't this draft scenario put the wind up the Vic clubs:

Nudge nudges: GWS won't bid on Bowes if GC skip McGrath

1. ESS McCluggage
2. GC Brodie
3. GWS McGrath
4. BL SPS
5. GWS Ainsworth
6. GC Taranto
7. GC Bowes (bid by Freo)
8. Freo English
9. GWS Setterfield
10. BL Scrimshaw
11. GWS Perryman (bid by Port)

Do Port have 12 just for good measure ?
Eddie gunna need a ly down ...

 

[Jimmae]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-09/combine-results-day-three-jarrod-berry-caps-strong-combine

Repeat sprint total (six x 30metre sprints)
Jordan Gallucci (24.36 sec)
Andrew McGrath (24.44)
Bailey Morrish (24.83)
Jarrod Berry (24.99)
Ben Ainsworth (25.01)
Kym LeBois (25.08)
Griffin Logue (25.09)
Shai Bolton (25.10)
Myles Poholke (25.20)
Jacob Allison (25.30)

3km time trial
Jarrod Berry (9:46 minutes)
Tom Williamson (9:50)
Dylan Clarke (9:52)
*Mark O'Connor (9:56)
Griffin Logue (9:58)

What kind of draft range would you think for Florent? He would have risen a bit at the end of the year, especially with his game in the All stars. Maybe an option if we do get our hands on 15/16?

I think he'll be there, it's just a question of if we want a player who doesn't really rack up disposals with a pick in that range when there's guys like Gallucci and Bolton around that mark.

 

[The Grover]

GWS get 3 off Freo for 7, McCarthy and a bit more. GC get 2 plus Hanley(for eg) off Brisbane for 4 and 8. And 6 for Prestia and knives. All are reported tonight by E.Quayle as likely.

Therefore, wouldn't this draft scenario put the wind up the Vic clubs:

Nudge nudges: GWS won't bid on Bowes if GC skip McGrath

1. ESS McCluggage
2. GC Brodie
3. GWS McGrath
4. BL SPS
5. GWS Ainsworth
6. GC Taranto
7. GC Bowes (bid by Freo)
8. Freo English
9. GWS Setterfield
10. BL Scrimshaw
11. GWS Perryman (bid by Port)

actually lets scrap the draft & go back to zones.

 

[Arr0w]

The GC/Bris trade rates Hanley at 16; not sure that's a fair deal. Suspect that GC will give them something like #28 for #21, or #25 for #19 as well. That rates him at 22.

Others have pointed out it makes more sense for Freo to trade further down, say 15, 32, 34 and McCarthy for 3 and 40. That opens up the ability for them to trade for Hill. Depends on how much they like English.

Another is 15, 16 and McCarthy.


OK, but is he damaging with the footy in hand? Can he set up attacks, or just snag a goal out the back.

Could you image a more aggressive version of say a Fyfe? Not sure whether he can reach that level, but at worst he will be a 10 KPD, that can play on talls and smalls

Worth a pick 12 to 16

 

[Jimmae]

Could you image a more aggressive version of say a Fyfe? Not sure whether he can reach that level, but at worst he will be a 10 KPD, that can play on talls and smalls

Worth a pick 12 to 16

I think you're exaggerating on two fronts there. He's a tall that can play on medium types with his pace. Not very agile, thus would suffer in an inside midfield role.

 

[AB_Blue]

Powell-pepper, Galluci & Florent would be a great draft for us

Also where is Berry ranked. Seems to be on a few leader boards at the combine ?