Hot Topic 2016 DRAFT

[MileHigh]

Watched Brodies video and he has awareness like Cripps does and how to find people outside of his peripheral vision by hand. Also is quick to do the team thing and sheppard once he's given it off. I'm all for having two of those players in the same team. Get talls, get inside mids, finish with outside mids. I reckon we are currently in phase 2.

 

[Arr0w]

I can't speak for others but I haven't questioned your ethics.

You guaranteed that Brodie won't be taken at 5 and that piqued interest, which is good.
Unfortunately though, you wouldn't back things up by putting forward who should be taken and why.

No-one cares for Phantom Drafts really. They're only a little fun that largely amount to little.
People that care are somewhat more invested in what people that go to games, think of the players, without prejudice. Much more interesting.

Never said that Brodie wouldn't be taken at 5, I said Brodie at 5 and Duman at 25

This joint is like Chinese whispers

 

[F_therest]

Ok we are going back to this are we?

Ok lets put it to rest once and fore-all then

I said the taboo word "Guarantee" we won't take Brodie at 5 and duman at 25

If the statement above, is so out of the question.

Tell me who here thinks we will pick up both of these guys

100% ?
90% ?
80% ?

Would love to know what you all think

The problem didn't start because you said 'guarantee'...a simple explanation that it was opinion not inside knowledge would have sufficed.

The problem was you gave everyone attitude and were being condescending...even to those who were simply asking how you knew.

 

[TerryWallet]

Everyone else's? So everyone had Mathieson outside the top 28 picks? And did everyone have Rioli at 30 like me despite media rumours? Sounds like you are questioning my integrity Terry?

Ok, if you are questioning my integrity, happy to post it this weekend. Will give you what I think will happen and what i think should happen

Look forward to seeing everyone else's too

I'm not sure how saying i'm interested in seeing your thoughts, is questioning your integrity lol.

 

[Sector 7G]

Everyone else's? So everyone had Mathieson outside the top 28 picks? And did everyone have Rioli at 30 like me despite media rumours? Sounds like you are questioning my integrity Terry?

Ok, if you are questioning my integrity, happy to post it this weekend. Will give you what I think will happen and what i think should happen

Look forward to seeing everyone else's too

If people are changing their phantoms on the back of media rumours they are worthless phantoms that are just an echo chamber of other peoples opinions.

Power rankings are far more interesting and revealing than predictions of which club will recruit which player.

 

[Arr0w]

If I have offended anyone with my views or statements, it was not my intention.

Thought this was a forum for expressing views, didn't know there had to be a right or wrong

Like I have stated, its all about passion, can we all move on now?

 

[F_therest]

Never said that Brodie wouldn't be taken at 5, I said Brodie at 5 and Duman at 25

This joint is like Chinese whispers

Wrong again.

Here is your initial post:

I will guarantee, we will not take Brodie at 5 nor Duman at 25

You said we won't take Brodie at 5 NOR Duman at 25.

That means you're saying we won't take Brodie at 5....so yeah...

 

[Arr0w]

The problem didn't start because you said 'guarantee'...a simple explanation that it was opinion not inside knowledge would have sufficed.

The problem was you gave everyone attitude and were being condescending...even to those who were simply asking how you knew.

So you want to avoid my question as to the likelihood of those 2 players being picked at 5 and 25?

What would you define, being called a F^&*wit and clown? Apparently that was appropriate for say "Guarantee"

If I was condescending, it wasn't my intention.

 

[Arr0w]

If people are changing their phantoms on the back of media rumours they are worthless phantoms that are just an echo chamber of other peoples opinions.

Power rankings are far more interesting and revealing than predictions of which club will recruit which player.

Completely agree, more than happy to post both

 

[Arr0w]

Wrong again.

Here is your initial post:



You said we won't take Brodie at 5 NOR Duman at 25.

That means you're saying we won't take Brodie at 5....so yeah...

Ok, see your point, you're right, I should not have used NOR

Let me try this then, so we can all move on

1. We will not acquire BOTH those guys with 5 and 25 (Happy for someone to state otherwise)
2. I don't rate Brodie as high, as all of you (That I know of)

 

[Arr0w]

I'm not sure how saying i'm interested in seeing your thoughts, is questioning your integrity lol.

Terry, if you want to keep going with this I am happy to entertain you. Don't feign innocence, I am many thing, but I am no fool. Your remark of "same as everyone else's" was questioning my integrity. I don't need to copy or follow the masses.

If it did, it would of had the likes of Mathieson in the top 28, like "Everyone else's"

Can we just move on now Terry

 

[TerryWallet]

Terry, if you want to keep going with this I am happy to entertain you. Don't feign innocence, I am many thing, but I am no fool. Your remark of "same as everyone else's" was questioning my integrity. I don't need to copy or follow the masses.

If it did, it would of had the likes of Mathieson in the top 28, like "Everyone else's"

Can we just move on now Terry

Move on to what?

The same as yesterday....and the day before that?

Other than your continual dislike for people rating Brodie, i'm not sure what we're moving on to.

* I love that you have an opinion btw.

 

[kingkingston]

so does Pendlebury.

Pendlebury has control over the ball by his hands, this kicking style reminds me of Kane Cornes and how held it and styles like that make it hard to kick through the ball and keep it low to leading targets

 

[Arr0w]

Move on to what?

The same as yesterday....and the day before that?

Other than your continual dislike for people rating Brodie, i'm not sure what we're moving on to.

* I love that you have an opinion btw.

Ok, think we are finally getting there, I do not dislike anyone that rates Brodie.

Perhaps in future, I will ask why they rate him so highly compared to others in the range

So, Terry, where do you rate Brodie and why?

 

[RudyBlue]

SOS Draft history outside the first round:

2011 - Tom Downie, Setanta O'halpin, James McDonald, Sam Frost
2012 - James Stewart, Bret Thornton, Joseph Redfern, Zac Williams
2013 - Rory Lobb, Jake Barrett, Jed Lamb, Sam Schulz,
2014 - Pat Mckenna, Jack Steele, Jeremy Finlayson

It's not a stellar bunch, but there are lots of mature-age recruits in there and many of those picks are zone selections.

In many ways SOS has never been under much pressure to pick a diamond out of the pile so it will be interesting reviewing the next few years

Williams and Lobb are jets. Frost, Stewart and Barrett are all decent. Finlayson has buckets of potential just hasn't had his chance yet.

Doesnt look too shabby to me.

 

[BlueRenaissance]

Terry, if you want to keep going with this I am happy to entertain you. Don't feign innocence, I am many thing, but I am no fool. Your remark of "same as everyone else's" was questioning my integrity. I don't need to copy or follow the masses.

If it did, it would of had the likes of Mathieson in the top 28, like "Everyone else's"

Can we just move on now Terry

Arrow, the thing in with these drafts is that unless you are a hands on recruiter you just can't know enough. Just enough to be dangerous. Best not to back yourself into a corner with big calls unless you are in the recruiting system. As a long time reader of this forum there was a guy around a decade ago who attended some TAC games and knew a little about the players that everyone asked for and rated his opinion on the draft. He was a good source of info but the dangerous comment applied to him as well. He took a stand against Pendlebury as not much chop. From that moment on, i'm sure he lost people's interest to some degree.

Make your points without bold statements otherwise like others, you end up disappearing!

Personally, i've liked your comments up until the point of trying to force your views.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

SOS Draft history outside the first round:

2011 - Tom Downie, Setanta O'halpin, James McDonald, Sam Frost
2012 - James Stewart, Bret Thornton, Joseph Redfern, Zac Williams
2013 - Rory Lobb, Jake Barrett, Jed Lamb, Sam Schulz,
2014 - Pat Mckenna, Jack Steele, Jeremy Finlayson

It's not a stellar bunch, but there are lots of mature-age recruits in there and many of those picks are zone selections.

In many ways SOS has never been under much pressure to pick a diamond out of the pile so it will be interesting reviewing the next few years

you say it isn't a stellar bunch, but who could he have taken at those picks? I'm not sure if you know off the top of your head but are there some standouts he should've went for instead?

 

[FlowersByIrene]

So that's a yes for taking all those players ahead of Brodie. Interesting.

I'm not saying you're wrong. Just wanted you to expand on your opinion and now you have.

That's the most deluded thing on the planet. Drew and Venables and Simpkin above Brodie haha

 

[TerryWallet]

Ok, think we are finally getting there, I do not dislike anyone that rates Brodie.

Perhaps in future, I will ask why they rate him so highly compared to others in the range

So, Terry, where do you rate Brodie and why?

Well, seeing as you asked Arr0w:

I rate McCluggage as the clear standout.

And then i could make an argument for Brodie, Bowes and Petrevski-Seton as 2 thru 4.

From there i could make an argument for Taranto, Setterfield, Ainsworth and McGrath as 5 thru 8.

And from there i could make an argument for Scrimshaw, English, Logue, Perryman, Berry and Venables at 9 thru 14.

 

[BobP]

Whilst reservations with regards to Scrimshaw are justified, we have to remember that he has had to cope with injuries which has impeded upon his capacity to both put on some size, and to build his endurance.

In terms of pure talent, he is No. 1 IMO.

He is a gamble, and we would be drafting him based on what he could be, but it could pay absolute dividends.

I'm also conscious of the fact that our midfield is rather depleted, but you can't draft someone on the basis of short term considerations. If we were to draft Brodie over Scrimshaw for example our midfield may be shored up in the short term and Brodie may end up being a good player, but he simply doesn't have the ceiling which Scrimshaw has.

 

[Sector 7G]

There are rumours the drug cheats are looking to take McGrath at 1. Could McCluggage slip to 5?

 

[Arr0w]

Arrow, the thing in with these drafts is that unless you are a hands on recruiter you just can't know enough. Just enough to be dangerous. Best not to back yourself into a corner with big calls unless you are in the recruiting system. As a long time reader of this forum there was a guy around a decade ago who attended some TAC games and knew a little about the players that everyone asked for and rated his opinion on the draft. He was a good source of info but the dangerous comment applied to him as well. He took a stand against Pendlebury as not much chop. From that moment on, i'm sure he lost people's interest to some degree.

Make your points without bold statements otherwise like others, you end up disappearing!

Personally, i've liked your comments up until the point of trying to force your views.

Your points are very valid

Didn't think I was forcing my view, but will take it on board

 

[thylacine60]

Terry, if you want to keep going with this I am happy to entertain you. Don't feign innocence, I am many thing, but I am no fool. Your remark of "same as everyone else's" was questioning my integrity. I don't need to copy or follow the masses.

If it did, it would of had the likes of Mathieson in the top 28, like "Everyone else's"

Can we just move on now Terry

Brilliant opportunity to use the word disingenuous in context thrown out the window.

 

[Arr0w]

Well, seeing as you asked Arr0w:

I rate McCluggage as the clear standout.

And then i could make an argument for Brodie, Bowes and Petrevski-Seton as 2 thru 4.

From there i could make an argument for Taranto, Setterfield, Ainsworth and McGrath as 5 thru 8.

And from there i could make an argument for Scrimshaw, English, Logue, Perryman, Berry and Venables at 9 thru 14.

I concur with McCluggage as a standout, the others are definitely in the mix for the next 13 spots

 

[Arr0w]

Brilliant opportunity to use the word disingenuous in context thrown out the window.

You are right, another missed opportunity