Hot Topic 2016 DRAFT

[teagueyubeauty]

Pull your head in boy.

The post was nonsensical, added absolutely nothing to the post you quoted. Completely unsure why you even bothered to respond

I know what happened, wasn't anyone's fault, everyone's a great bloke but had to happen.

Like wtf?

 

[Jimmae]

The post was nonsensical, added absolutely nothing to the post you quoted. Completely unsure why you even bothered to respond

I know what happened, wasn't anyone's fault, everyone's a great bloke but had to happen.

Like wtf?

If it's not work related, but somehow untenable, then it must be... *waits for you to get it*

 

[HARKER]

The post was nonsensical, added absolutely nothing to the post you quoted. Completely unsure why you even bothered to respond

I know what happened, wasn't anyone's fault, everyone's a great bloke but had to happen.

Like wtf?

For what it's worth, Sin knows what he's talking about on this matter and for very good reasons.

He doesn't just make stuff up either....proof..pudding and all that.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

I'm not saying he's making anything up, he's not saying anything at all so why post it in the first place.

If someone's been fooling around then say that, but if the case then clearly someone hasn't been a good bloke!!

 

[BLUE_BALLS95]

I trust the experts in who we get - but - I want to bid on Setterfield and then Bowes at 5 - just to make sure GWS and Suns earn their academy picks - Suns would use 2 top 10 picks to match our pick 5.

Cannot afford Suns to have 4 picks in Top 10.

 

[Jimmae]

Speaking of academy picks, Twomey said the other day that he reckons GWS will only be gung ho on matching bids for Setterfield, Perryman, Cumming and Tizani, with a brief conversation about how far Macreadie has slid in his opinion.

He really doesn't have a clue until the whispers start flowing, does he?

 

[Sin City]

I'm not saying he's making anything up, he's not saying anything at all so why post it in the first place.

If someone's been fooling around then say that, but if the case then clearly someone hasn't been a good bloke!!

I give what info I can without crossing the line by saying anything confidential, not sure why that's so hard to understand. That's a bit more important to me than pleasing some tool on the Internet. Welcome to the ignore list. None of it has anything to do with the 2016 draft anyway, I was just correcting a mistruth that was posted.

 

[Aphrodite]

Back to the 2016 Draft thanks all!

 

[DangerousD]

What's a flag?

A Premiership flag.

 

[DangerousD]

According to some there is only room for one aboriginal midfielder in anyone side, those saying we have Picket so we don't need SPS sound pathetic.

 

[Govinda blueboy]

I feel like Taranto would be the next pendlebury if he had classier footskills.

Brodie needs to work on both footskills and handballing under pressure.

SPS engine and running capacity.

What can be taught easiest?

For both Taranto and Brodie they're both skill deficiencies but for SPS it's fitness related. So to answer your question imo the easiest to rectify would be SPS, he's already a midfielder so he has the capacity to cover the ground he just needs to up the tempo and training.

 

[DangerousD]

Anyone think there may be a chance we'll take Jake Bradley, probably get him in the rookie draft.

Craig was a great of the club but I think he was 22 or 23 when he started at Carlton after coming from Port Adelaide in the SANFL so don't really know what he was like early days and whether he was a late developer. Jake has been a tennis player I believe and has taken to footy a little later.

Elite runner in all areas, potential late developer. We lack little blokes who provide a bit of spark and skill.

Would be a guy who if we pass on, you would hope we signed up with the Northern Blues.

Sort of player you would give a couple of seasons as a development project. The way AFL is played now he could be a really good fit.

I am close to a former coach there who had Jake in his U/18 seasons and although thinks he is a lovely kid, he didn't think he was up to it as a footballer, (his opinion only). I hope he gets a crack at the NB if he doesn't get rookied.

 

[Govinda blueboy]

According to some there is only room for one aboriginal midfielder in anyone side, those saying we have Picket so we don't need SPS sound pathetic.

I haven't heard that before, bu if that is the case sounds to me like a classic example of pigeonholing and racial profiling. Something that we should all try to eradicate from society in general.

 

[La Dispute]

According to some there is only room for one aboriginal midfielder in anyone side, those saying we have Picket so we don't need SPS sound pathetic.

And racist.

Already there's been a heap of concealed jabs (No Jobe) at Pickett. If they are the best player available, their ethnicity should not matter, as facetious as that is.

Glad we didn't pass on Weitering last season for his Dutch heritage.

 

[RudyBlue]

A Premiership flag.

A premiership you say

 

[Toddski]

For both Taranto and Brodie they're both skill deficiencies but for SPS it's fitness related. So to answer your question imo the easiest to rectify would be SPS, he's already a midfielder so he has the capacity to cover the ground he just needs to up the tempo and training.

Yeah but how many times have we said that about an indigenous talent? if only he could build an engine.

It's not easy to build an elite afl engine.

Ever tried running to 15 on a beep test?

 

[MileHigh]

Not sure if this has been posted already. From the desk of Knightmare who certainly has his finger on the pulse.

http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/17958126/knightmares-afl-list-analysis-does-your-club-need

Carlton

List needs

1. Star power through midfield to compliment Patrick Cripps - (Carlton were the AFL's worst in winning centre clearances last year at 10.4 per game, less even than Essendon. With Marc Murphy and Bryce Gibbs the wrong side of 25, the urgency is high)

2. A young ruckman to eventually succeed Matthew Kreuzer (with 24-year-old Daniel Gorringe Carlton's youngest ruckman, someone younger will need to be introduced into the mix with Carlton's ruck division inspiring little confidence and contributing significantly to Carlton's problems at stoppages)

3. Crumbing small forward who can kick 30+ goals in a season and heap on the forward pressure - (since the departures of Eddie Betts and Jeff Garlett, Carlton have lacked a high-quality crumbing small forward. Jarrod Pickett may fill this role, though based on his junior footy, if he does make the grade he is more likely to play a Lewis Jetta type role off half-forward and pushing up onto a wing)

4. A star key forward to build the front half around - (Charlie Curnow and Harry McKay, who were selected early last year may develop, but a star key forward to build around and pair with that young duo, if they both develop, would be optimal)

Draft picks: 5, 25, 48, 63, 66, 70, 81, 99, 117

Who should they draft?

Will Brodie if available at pick No. 5 can take the pressure of Cripps.

 

[Funk]

We may as well fold teams like Sydney, Brisbane, Gold Coast and GWS right now, then.
I still say that it's incumbent upon clubs to create environments for players to want to stay at the club they were drafted into.

Brisbane didn't lose the players it did because they were desperate to come 'home', but for the fact they had a lousy culture.

I was specifically talking about Carlton.

It's like life - why take risks you don't need to?

 

[Omega Blue]

Since when did being on the wrong side of 25 become a thing.

 

[MileHigh]

The reality is we only have 1 player who we can reasonably say is coming through for our inside midfield. I agree, the urgency is high.

 

[Azul]

List needs

1. Star power through midfield to compliment Patrick Cripps - (Carlton were the AFL's worst in winning centre clearances last year at 10.4 per game, less even than Essendon. With Marc Murphy and Bryce Gibbs the wrong side of 25, the urgency is high)

2. A young ruckman to eventually succeed Matthew Kreuzer (with 24-year-old Daniel Gorringe Carlton's youngest ruckman, someone younger will need to be introduced into the mix with Carlton's ruck division inspiring little confidence and contributing significantly to Carlton's problems at stoppages)

3. Crumbing small forward who can kick 30+ goals in a season and heap on the forward pressure - (since the departures of Eddie Betts and Jeff Garlett, Carlton have lacked a high-quality crumbing small forward. Jarrod Pickett may fill this role, though based on his junior footy, if he does make the grade he is more likely to play a Lewis Jetta type role off half-forward and pushing up onto a wing)

4. A star key forward to build the front half around - (Charlie Curnow and Harry McKay, who were selected early last year may develop, but a star key forward to build around and pair with that young duo, if they both develop, would be optimal)

Draft picks: 5, 25, 48, 63, 66, 70, 81, 99, 117

1. Most definitely. I reckon Willem Drew at pick 25 fits the bill.
2. I'm not convinced that isn't Harry McKay in a tandem role. But yeah a late pick on a project, certainly. Unless SOS has a thing for English.
3. Sounds like a role for Sumner, to be honest. Ainsworth?
4. The role Jaksch was born to play but if he's not up to it, I dunno whether Marshall, Kerr or Battle can grow into the position.

 

[El Topo]

You don't spend high picks on pressure forwards, there's always guys down the order with the right combo of pace and Napoleon complex. Azul is spot on, we already have Sumner.

 

[bmaurizio]

The reality is we only have 1 player who we can reasonably say is coming through for our inside midfield. I agree, the urgency is high.

Agree with kM our midfield does need urgent support and depth but why could we not draft , SPS and either or Clarke or Dew , I reckon by the time pick 24 comes around one of them will be there. We'd be adding grunt and distribution and some fair and skill which we desperately lack.
Agree also re Ruckman because have a feel we may lose Matthew Kreuzer and Bryce Gibbs next year in a very strong draft year for quality KP talls.
Go Baggers

 

[Wheels On Meals]

A draft pick is wasted on an 18 year old ruckman. Most of them don't show much until about 24-25 and they don't really peak until 26+. I don't have any stats to back that up though. I prefer using a rookie spot or trading for ones that have been in the system for a few years already.

 

[HARKER]

I was specifically talking about Carlton.

It's like life - why take risks you don't need to?

I wouldn't take unnecessary risks either but, I would take calculated ones.

As I put forward earlier, if the talent/quality/character/need between two players is 51/49, yeah then sure......take the local lad.
If though it was 60/40, then I'd be disappointed should my club not have taken that 'risk' because it wasn't prepared to back itself.

Port Adelaide took Ollie Wines just ahead of local lad Sam Mayes, who was touted as a terrific talent. I think they got it right.