Hot Topic 2016 DRAFT

[SABlue]

Personally, I would take the best available, at least the first 3 picks, whether they are midfielders or KPP. Pick 5 looks like being a midfielder, after that I suspect SOS & Co will sit back and cross the names off their whiteboard until our next pick.

I agree. But I don't think you can just look at 1 draft by itself. You have to consider at a minimum the next 2 as well. The better choice could be the following year or the year after.

 

[Arr0w]

I agree. But I don't think you can just look at 1 draft by itself. You have to consider at a minimum the next 2 as well. The better choice could be the following year or the year after.

That's very true, but it is a very risky strategy. As an example, Luke Strnadica, was considered a potential top 20 pick for this draft, 12 months ago. Now it seems a rookie selection would be his best ranking.

Ranking draft prospects 12 months out is near impossible, clubs monitor talented kids to determine growth, or lack there of, rather than pooling them in 1st, 2nd, 3rd round selection groups.

 

[1981]

How bad would have it been to have a wafer thin midfield?

We got something better than a pick #13 and for a much better price - Caleb Marchbank.

Now now did I mention Bryce?

 

[1981]

How do we all personally rate the top 5 in order??

McCluggage everyone's no. 1?

 

[La Dispute]

My Top 10 would be

1. McGrath
2. McCluggage
3. Setterfield
4. Petrevski-Seton
5. Brodie
6. Ainsworth
7. Taranto
8. Scrimshaw
9. Bowes
10. Florent

 

[GapInIkonPark]

Personally, I would take the best available, at least the first 3 picks, whether they are midfielders or KPP. Pick 5 looks like being a midfielder, after that I suspect SOS & Co will sit back and cross the names off their whiteboard until our next pick.

Let's hope they don't use a whiteboard ...

 

[GapInIkonPark]

That's very true, but it is a very risky strategy. As an example, Luke Strnadica, was considered a potential top 20 pick for this draft, 12 months ago. Now it seems a rookie selection would be his best ranking.

Ranking draft prospects 12 months out is near impossible, clubs monitor talented kids to determine growth, or lack there of, rather than pooling them in 1st, 2nd, 3rd round selection groups.

Anthony Raso comes to mind.

 

[DangerousD]

Thanks for feedback DoubleD, but

1. We'll have to agree to disagree; and
2. You obviously forgot to read the disclaimer at the end.

I agreed with the rest,

 

[DangerousD]

What if Kerr, Sproule, Battle and Hayward aren't as good as the 10 or so touted tall's predicted to be top 20 next year. Should we still pick them because they are better than Jaksch and Smedts this year or should we wait and grab a bloke next year that is better than Jaksch and Smedts as well as Kerr, Sproule, Battle and Hayward.

Smarter people than us will make that call, I didn't say take those guys if they were better than Jacksh or Smedts I suggested taking them if they were the best available at our pick.
This time last year I remember quite a few banging on about battle being a superstar and one year on he has slid quite a bit so predicting things like that would be dangerous.

 

[SABlue]

That's very true, but it is a very risky strategy. As an example, Luke Strnadica, was considered a potential top 20 pick for this draft, 12 months ago. Now it seems a rookie selection would be his best ranking.

Ranking draft prospects 12 months out is near impossible, clubs monitor talented kids to determine growth, or lack there of, rather than pooling them in 1st, 2nd, 3rd round selection groups.

I think your selling talent scouts and list managers pretty short. I'd be pretty disappointed if we weren't and I'd be massively surprised if every club doesn't look at future drafts strengths and weaknesses to try and make an informed decision. I'm sure you don't think that SOS isn't looking towards the next year when making a decision for the current. Yes things change from year to year but they also stay the same.
Besides the 4 mentioned in past posts are average tall's in their draft class and comparatively to previous drafts. And picking one name out doesn't make the point.

 

[zeeCFC]

This draft is weird, there's hardly anyone I'd call an elite kick. Mcgrath is average by foot and McCluggage is far from elite except when around goals (at which he's amazing). Ainsworth then maybe Bowes are my favourite field/i50 kicks.

My top 10 rankings are:
1. McCluggage
2. Ainsworth
3. Setterfield
4. McGrath
5. Bowes
6. Taranto
7. SPS
8. Brodie
9. Scrimshaw
10. Florent

 

[Bic]

My top 10

1. McGrath
2. McCLuggage
3. Bowes
4. Taranto
5. Setterfield
6. SPS
7. Ainsworth
8. Brodie
9. Perryman
10. English

This will likely change again tomorrow. All I am doing is reading and watching videos every night haha

 

[ParapMarkets]

Yes it is frustrating, but there is a flow on affect, their picks next year will be affected. As an example, it will be like them using 15 and 37 next year to draft Setterfield this year

Yeah but............. flow on effect, schmow on effect. I want punishment to be swift and measurable. Not some airy fairy "well, maybe at some point in the future you might have to pay a small price, maybe".

 

[ParapMarkets]

It's really tough to know who we are taking, it sounds (not surprisingly) like GC are extremely keen on Scrimshaw and also showing Taranto, English and Hayward some love (and the West Australian was reporting they are looking at SPS very closely as well). If Brisbane are legitimate then they should be bidding on Bowes but if not then obviously our pick moves down one.

My gut feel is still that we will end up with Taranto, but I really hope we bid on Setterfield first.

 

[Blue and Silver]

So as a guide to how deep the draft is, and where players are roughly likely to fall I thought I'd generate a rough depth chart. I have used the Draft Machine rankings to guide me significantly and have not seen all these players play.

Band 1: (Picks 1-3~)

McGrath, Ainsworth, McLuggage

Band 2: (Picks 4-9~)

Taranto, Brodie, Petrovski-Seton, Settlerfield, Scrimshaw, Bowes

Band 3: (Picks 10-24~)

Florent, Simpkin, Logue, English, T. Marshall, Hayward, Gallucci, Berry, Perryman, Battle, Powell-Pepper, Venables, Witherden, Bolton, C. Cox

Band 4: (Picks 25-48~)

Williamson, Drew, Graham, Kerr, Rotham, Maibaum, B. Cox, Cumming, Mutch, MacReadie, Atley, Scheer, Daicos, Baker, Ridley, Scharenberg, C.Brown, Sproule, Lipinski, Ryan, Fisher, Walker, Himmelburg, Guelfi

Band 5: (Picks 49-73)

Begley, Brayshaw, Waterman, Morrish, Allison, Williams, Watson, Parfitt, Morrison, Stengle, Garthwaite, Long, Duman, M. McCarthy, Junker, McLarty, Ratugolea, Dundon, Poholke, Lyons, Marshall, Zurhaar, Jarman, Clarke, McInenery

Band 6: (Picks 74-90)

Larkey, Tiziani, Simpson, Davis, Darcy, Kirby, De Wit, Narkle, Romensky, Lynch, Ronke, Piper, Hampton, Cameron, Olango, Fisher, Phillips

Now I don't think that these boundaries are nearly as solid as I have represented them, but it shows that some good players are getting through until late in the draft.

 

[Weiterbot23]

What's the story with Lipinski?
Bit of a late Bolter?

His older brother is a good basketball player, think he's playing in a div 2 college at the moment.

 

[GapInIkonPark]

So Phantom Draft season is in full swing, Sam Landsberger of the HS has us nominating Setterfield at 5 with GWS matching, and then taking Taranto at 6. He has GC taking SPS at 4 ... See:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...t/news-story/84169fc4a7110b82a82dac8e13d5bf82

 

[Soapy V]

So Phantom Draft season is in full swing, Sam Landsberger of the HS has us nominating Setterfield at 5 with GWS matching, and then taking Taranto at 6. He has GC taking SPS at 4 ... See:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...t/news-story/84169fc4a7110b82a82dac8e13d5bf82

essendon need to bid on setterfield. if gws get ainsworth on top of their picks that really is bs

doesn't have brodie top 10 and there is no way english will go in top 10. too risky and too much midfield talent for a club to pass up

 

[Weiterbot23]

essendon need to bid on setterfield. if gws get ainsworth on top of their picks that really is bs

Adding 2 top 5 picks to the best list in the comp

 

[Soapy V]

Adding 2 top 5 picks to the best list in the comp

best list ever!

 

[Weiterbot23]

best list ever!

They are a Marchbank away from being unstoppable

 

[Soapy V]

My top 10

1. McCluggage
2. McGrath
3. Setterfield
4. Ainsworth
5. Scrimshaw
6. Bowes
7. Taranto
8. Brodie
9. SPS
10. Simpkin

 

[GoBlues!]

Band 1: (Picks 1-3~)

McGrath, Ainsworth, McLuggage

Band 2: (Picks 4-9~)

Taranto, Brodie, Petrovski-Seton, Settlerfield, Scrimshaw, Bowes

Band 3: (Picks 10-24~)

Florent, Simpkin, Logue, English, T. Marshall, Hayward, Gallucci, Berry, Perryman, Battle, Powell-Pepper, Venables, Witherden, Bolton, C. Cox

Band 4: (Picks 25-48~)

Williamson, Drew, Graham, Kerr, Rotham, Maibaum, B. Cox, Cumming, Mutch, MacReadie, Atley, Scheer, Daicos, Baker, Ridley, Scharenberg, C.Brown, Sproule, Lipinski, Ryan, Fisher, Walker, Himmelburg, Guelfi

Nice work B&S.

I'll take SPS and Drew for our Quinella.

 

[Arr0w]

I think your selling talent scouts and list managers pretty short. I'd be pretty disappointed if we weren't and I'd be massively surprised if every club doesn't look at future drafts strengths and weaknesses to try and make an informed decision. I'm sure you don't think that SOS isn't looking towards the next year when making a decision for the current. Yes things change from year to year but they also stay the same.
Besides the 4 mentioned in past posts are average tall's in their draft class and comparatively to previous drafts. And picking one name out doesn't make the point.

Of course they would be assessing talent all year round. But they would not say, lets not take KP player XYZ in the 2nd round of this draft, because there is a better version in the 2nd round next year.

 

[1981]

By all accounts we could well get a kid at 25 who would have been top dozen in any other year.

Pick 25 and even 48 are arguably more interesting than pick 5.

After hearing SOS talk of 'talent' and knowing Bolts would be a fan of good ball use I can see why we are linked to SPS and TT. Both are excellent users of it.