Hot Topic 2016 DRAFT

[Matty411]

Reading about the possible expulsion of the rookie list for 2018 and possible rules to allow all rookies to play senior footy in 2017, I think this will affect the way a fair few clubs attack this draft - reckon we could see a record amount of young players find their way onto a list next week.

 

[Wheels On Meals]

Plenty of top 10 picks are flops. Don't be so confident pick 5 will be a good player just because they're pick 5.

 

[Jeremias]

Plenty of top 10 picks are flops. Don't be so confident pick 5 will be a good player just because they're pick 5.

There aren't too many top 5 picks who are flops these days, and they are becoming less frequent as recruiting and development improves across the board.

Of course there is a chance that whoever we take may not come on as hoped, but the odds are certainly stacked in our favour and we can be confident of bringing a very good footballer into the club at that pick.

 

[Funk]

And we do need help kicking a score! I'm a best available advocate. if that's a tall then, happy days. A bit of romance attached to Kerr as well. Builds on the SOSOS factor from last year a little.

Just hope he tells clubs in his interviews "with my family background do you seriously think I won't get to Blues at first possible opportunity?"

May slightly influence where/when he gets taken.

 

[Jorge]

There aren't too many top 5 picks who are flops these days, and they are becoming less frequent as recruiting and development improves across the board.

I don't think that is quite right. The reputations of players drafted in 13, 14 & 15 are still elevated by their draft positions but really they are too early to call successes or failures (besides Bontempelli).

So we're left to consider players drafted in 10, 11 & 12 which include names like Bennell, Day, Polec, Hoskin-Elliot, Buntine, O'Rourke, Toumpas & Plowman.

 

[Funk]

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[bmaurizio]

There aren't too many top 5 picks who are flops these days, and they are becoming less frequent as recruiting and development improves across the board.

Of course there is a chance that whoever we take may not come on as hoped, but the odds are certainly stacked in our favour and we can be confident of bringing a very good footballer into the club at that pick.

Agree the system is more sophisticated , so it should be with the amount or expertise and rescources being poured into it by AFL and Clubs.
The young players are more exposed and prepared for intensity, hype and expectations . What needs attention is to 2nd Reserves teams to accelerate intergrate smoother transition to the big time.
Top 5 are sound and going forward I see the top 10 being pretty close to the mark.
Reachers are GWS & Suns due to top picks aplenty so slight distortion there.
We'll pick a beauty at 5 and he'll be a very good player for a long time.
Go Baggers

 

[Pafloyul]

And we do need help kicking a score! I'm a best available advocate. if that's a tall then, happy days. A bit of romance attached to Kerr as well. Builds on the SOSOS factor from last year a little.

Who is to say the best available tall will be Kerr? I'm thinking Ridley with His versatility might be a good get with our second or third pick after a bid on Macreadie fails (maybe before our pick). My wants with our second pick run the whole gamut of different player types.

 

[Pafloyul]

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[Jeremias]

So we're left to consider players drafted in 10, 11 & 12 which include names like Bennell, Day, Polec, Hoskin-Elliot, Buntine, O'Rourke, Toumpas & Plowman.

Those years are out of the ordinary given the concessions given to GC and GWS.

Then when you consider those clubs had the luxury of picking for needs...it doesn't necessarily paint an entirely accurate picture.

Assign the various pre-listed players to their respective draft classes and things look better, as they should.

The point stands regardless. You can feel increasingly confident that a top 5 pick will net you a good player - of course there are some who fall through the cracks and that's never going to not be the case to some extent.

 

[bluedabadee]

Call me crazy, but is a Trump-like path opening up for McCluggage to Carlton?

Just going on today's article in (I know I know) The Sun on the Giants which concludes,

"The Giants are hoping to land academy guns Will Setterfield, Harry Perryman and Isaac Cumming next week. They will also activate the No.2 pick, but appear unlikely to take goal kicking midfielder Hugh McCluggage. Essendon met Setterfield last week, but is instead closing in on Andy McGrath as the No.1 pick."

That would leave:-

1. Essendon McGrath
2. GWS Presumably Setterfield to save points
3. Brisbane Seem set on taking Ben Ainsworth
4. Gold Coast Who effing cares as long as it's not McCluggage
5. Us Guess who?

If we can just get over the top in Wisconsin...

 

[Jimmae]

Call me crazy

you're being crazy

 

[La Dispute]

Call me crazy, but is a Trump-like path opening up for McCluggage to Carlton?

Just going on today's article in (I know I know) The Sun on the Giants which concludes,

"The Giants are hoping to land academy guns Will Setterfield, Harry Perryman and Isaac Cumming next week. They will also activate the No.2 pick, but appear unlikely to take goal kicking midfielder Hugh McCluggage. Essendon met Setterfield last week, but is instead closing in on Andy McGrath as the No.1 pick."

That would leave:-

1. Essendon McGrath
2. GWS Presumably Setterfield to save points
3. Brisbane Seem set on taking Ben Ainsworth
4. Gold Coast Who effing cares as long as it's not McCluggage
5. Us Guess who?

If we can just get over the top in Wisconsin...

In that scenario, I can't see Gold Coast bypassing McCluggage. They're keen on both SPS and Taranto but McCluggage is touted by most as the Number 1 pick.

 

[Matty411]

Call me crazy, but is a Trump-like path opening up for McCluggage to Carlton?

Just going on today's article in (I know I know) The Sun on the Giants which concludes,

"The Giants are hoping to land academy guns Will Setterfield, Harry Perryman and Isaac Cumming next week. They will also activate the No.2 pick, but appear unlikely to take goal kicking midfielder Hugh McCluggage. Essendon met Setterfield last week, but is instead closing in on Andy McGrath as the No.1 pick."

That would leave:-

1. Essendon McGrath
2. GWS Presumably Setterfield to save points
3. Brisbane Seem set on taking Ben Ainsworth
4. Gold Coast Who effing cares as long as it's not McCluggage
5. Us Guess who?

If we can just get over the top in Wisconsin...

Best case in this scenario would have Lions bidding on Bowes.

1. ESS - McGrath
2. GWS - Ainsworth
3. GC - Bowes (Bris bid)
4. GWS - Setterfield (Carlton bid for the fun of it)
5. CAR - McLuggage

After Trump's win, anything could happen.

 

[La Dispute]

I really like Joe Atley's highlights. Not sure whether he's slipped under the radar or the legion of inside mids has meant he's been pushed back a bit, but he projects as an AFL-level talent.



Has really good hands, is clean below his knees and moves pretty well in traffic. Like Brodie, he makes certain of his decisions and wont release until the precise moment. Seems more rounded than some of our other inside mids in Graham and Kerridge.

 

[BlackGoanna]

Best case in this scenario would have Lions bidding on Bowes.

1. ESS - McGrath
2. GWS - Ainsworth
3. GC - Bowes (Bris bid)
4. GWS - Setterfield (Carlton bid for the fun of it)
5. CAR - McLuggage

After Trump's win, anything could happen.

So what happened to Brisbane pick?

If Essendon take McGrath, surely McCluggage would go to GWS.

 

[Stefchook]

I really like Joe Atley's highlights. Not sure whether he's slipped under the radar or the legion of inside mids has meant he's been pushed back a bit, but he projects as an AFL-level talent.



Has really good hands, is clean below his knees and moves pretty well in traffic. Like Brodie, he makes certain of his decisions and wont release until the precise moment. Seems more rounded than some of our other inside mids in Graham and Kerridge.

He's an inside mid with real pace. Haven't seen enough to know if he's got the tricks of Cuningham, but I think you'll find that SOS likes midfielders who can run.

 

[Stefchook]

Pretty sure Brisbane won't be bidding on Bowes, just to help us. I suspect we'll be the first club to put in a bid for an Academy player.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Knightmare had us taking Taranto which i would be very happy with... but he also had Brodie sliding to 14. Kinda makes me wish we got rid of Bryce so we could pick up Brodie at 13..

 

[Stamos]

After Trump's win, anything could happen.

Probably not anything good, though

 

[coryne]

Ill say it again, the BEST case scenario IMO is

#1. GWS. Settlefield
#2. *. McGrath
#3. GCS. Bowes
#4. Lions. Ainsworth
#5. Carlton. McLuggage


Now all that we need to for McLuggage to go for a drive after a party tonight

 

[HARKER]

Plenty of top 10 picks are flops. Don't be so confident pick 5 will be a good player just because they're pick 5.

It will always still happen for one reason or another, (injury, motivation, new interests etc) but it will happen less and less.

At this stage, only Toumpas and O'Rourke can be viewed as a fail over the last 5 years and even they still have time to redeem their situation.
Pickett, Sumner & Ahern have been injured for most of the time.....and that can happen to anyone. i.e. Gumbleton, Morabito.

 

[Arr0w]

Knightmare had us taking Taranto which i would be very happy with... but he also had Brodie sliding to 14. Kinda makes me wish we got rid of Bryce so we could pick up Brodie at 13..

Knightmare changed his draft and suggested Brodie will fall outside the top 10? Go figure

 

[BlueWoof_#39]

What's people's thoughts on Tom Williamson?

188cm, 79kg, December born, quick, has endurance, left footer who makes good decisions from what I've seen but haven't really read much about him and Brett Anderson doesn't have him in the top 50 in his power rankings from what I've seen. Knightmare rates him at around 35 but other phantoms don't seem to mention him.

He did well at the combine in agility, beep, 3km, kicking, standing and running vertical jump. I would love him at 25, would definitely fill a need for us and could see him on the wing long term. I rate him around 20-25 but maybe I'm missing something about him so seeing if some of the experts know much about him.


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[The Dominator7]

He's an inside mid with real pace. Haven't seen enough to know if he's got the tricks of Cuningham, but I think you'll find that SOS likes midfielders who can run.

Like the post, thanks for the heads up on him, think I subconsciously passed him over because of his brother, really liked the highlights reel....pretty good write up from the Age Combine Harvester FWIW

"Joe's a great role model, captain and the clear choice of our group of boys when we selected our leadership group at the start of the year. We had six criteria and Joe was the only person to poll votes in every category from every other kid. He has a massive work ethic, to the point where we sometimes have to pull him back a bit. His great strength is his ball-winning ability and contested play, that's his natural game. He has some good speed, but he's been used more as a contested player. One thing he wanted to work on at the start of the year was his handball to kick ratio – because he wins so much footy on the inside he's tended to handball more than kick, but his improvement in that area has been quite significant in the second half of the year."

Stephen Sharp, Bendigo talent manager